The Avalyn Digest Sun Jun 9, 1996 Volume 1 : Issue 07 There are 31 messages totalling 787 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. slowdive 2. silvania 3. gigantic cd blowout! stock up and save! 4. lush album signing in NYC 5. New Lush Gallery 6. summarizing the show 7. shaving the pavement of san francisco 8. New Cure - Slowdive? 9. Mock 10. mojave3 discography 11. mojave 3 * slowdive 12. mojave 3/slowdive 13. cocteau twin-seefeel tour 14. Moringrise 15. 4ad promo tape 16. Silvania stockists (2) 17. really clean 18. just a word to the wise... 19. colfax abbey (6) 20. take me down ep...??? 21. recommendations (2) 22. FWD: slowdive effects 23. SlowdiveCD 24. dead can dance --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 21:34:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Lewis Hall Subject: slowdive Hello. Slowdive had a more ethereal, distorted sound that was filled with emotional creativity and soothing melodies. Mojave 3 seems to be a more matured version of Slowdive, although the band lost something when Nick and Chris left. It's difficult, however, to make a comparison. Both bands are genuine and unique. I'd like to comment that I feel Rachel should sing more...what a beautiful voice. That's all. Talk again soon. -------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 21:29:43 GMT -5 From: "WILDER SPACEMAN GONZALES AGREDA" <932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE> Subject: Re: silvania >> Have you heard Silvania? >Of course I have! And they're brilliant! I've got one CD (forgot the >title) and a couple of demos. Also, I'm running a fanzine called >Baby Talk, and sometimes I put together a tape compilation - so >far, I've done 2 compilations ("Garage Flowers" & "Planet Weetabix" >- both 60 minutes), and Silvania are featured on both tapes... Send me details about your fanzine, please. Are you talking about demos, i mean different versions from the released, sounds great for me. Maybe you're interested in to have a 7" demo from a great local band called Claroscuro, imagine slowdive's catch the breeze, silvania's trilce, but dyed with some guitars ala cure's play for today, primary, a forest. Emailme if interested. Wilder Spaceman. --------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 06:37:41 -0400 From: larry@interlog.com (naranjas en la cabeza) Subject: gigantic cd blowout! stock up and save! Hi, I'm looking to sell or trade a few CDs. Please direct all enquiries to me at larry@interlog.com, not to the list. Apologies for the crosspost. stuff I'm getting rid of: Bardo Pond: Bufo Alvarius etc. Flies Inside the Sun: ...an audience of others (including herself) (kranky noise stuff) Ivy (the New York one): Lately 5-song EP Grant McLennan (ex GoBetweens): Watershed New Fast Automatic Daffodils: Pigeonhole The Nightblooms: s/t Red House Painters: (the one with the rollercoaster on the front) Ride: Smile Sebadoh: Bubble and Scrape Unrest: Isabel Bishop EP Witch Hazel: Landlocked (not unlike the more tolerable side of recent Boo Radleys) Stuff I'm looking for, but probably no one is willing to part with: Roy Montgomery * Rachel's (first album) * Stars of the Lid * Sabalon Glitz * Felt (esp. Train Above The City) * Moose (early stuff) * Chapterhouse: Blood Music+GlobComm remixes * Bark Psychosis * Talk Talk (last 2 albums) * Cul de Sac * Leaf or Disjecta or whatever it's called * Pram (pre-Sargasso Sea) Again, mail inquiries/offers/threats to ME, not the list, or else incur the wrath of the listies. larry@interlog.com -------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:20:01 -0400 From: Moonstar9@aol.com Subject: lush album signing in NYC hi, could someone who is going to the lush album signing at the virgin megastore in NYC please ask phil king what/ why his old band 'see see rider' split and if he is still friends with any of the band members. if yes, could you ask him what they are up to? thanks, jared ps. i would do it but i'll be in school. ------------------------------- Date: 28 Apr 1996 22:05:00 +0100 From: dabl@key.GUN.de (David Bluhm) Subject: New Lush Gallery Hello there- I just wanted to let you know that there's a new Lush Picture Gallery, and you can find it at: http://members.aol.com/lushpix/index.htm You'll find pix from the infamous body-painting-session, and loads of concert pix... ----------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:40:52 -0400 (EDT) From: NWND@grove.iup.edu Subject: summarizing the show hey folks i just got back from washington dc...a six hour drive altogether....and feel wonderful....scheer was ok..i liked their set but the songs that appeared on a free shaving the pavement promo tape left something to be desired...alysia suggested that the best part of the band was the lead singer's voice, but i was kinda getting into the music too...lush was really great...best songs they played were hypocrite and superblast...really good stuff.....mojave's set was very good, but i think id have prefered to see them in a smaller place...there were catcallers whose presences slowly began to intrude on the intimacy of the show....i dont remember the exact set list, but there were several new songs...one in particular that sounded really great had the line.."i have your number on my wall' or something to that effect....not to sound gaudi but both neil and rachel were incredibly attractive (id never really seen them before, all the photos were incredibly ambiguous)...both of them with excellent stage presence...neil, seemed introverted, yet very complacent...rachel was very confident, very breathtaking....my favorite ad lib of the evening occured when the harmless catcall rang out "play some slowdive" to which rachel's response was "wow, thats original"....i got to speak with neil and ian after the show, they were both very nice, they signed my cd cover and i asked a few incidental questions...honestly iut was just such a thrill to even trade words with them...i didnt stick around to meet rachel, i think she stuck around for lush, while they were all outside...probably for the best, id have only gawked and suffered a knee to the etc via alysia... peace ------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 12:47:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Drarg Subject: Re: shaving the pavement of san francisco On Wed, 17 Apr 1996 Windblows@aol.com wrote: This was the same set as in Atlanta... the two new songs were called "One more Time" and "Tryin to Reach Ya" It was a very impressive show....even from Lush... > heres mohaves' set list from teh s.f. april 15th show : > where is the love > sarah > tomorrows taken > new song- > candle song3 > Mercy > new song - > and "Queen jane" - > yep Dylans tune ended the show...... --------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 06:23:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: New Cure - Slowdive? I noted, with great joy, that in a review of The Cure's latest album "Wild Mood Swings" in one of Sweden's evening papers, reviewer Per Bjurman compared one of the tracks "Jupiter Crash" to our beloved Slowdive! (though not in a positive way, but anyway...) He wrote: "...in "Jupiter Crash" they gaze at Slowdive's most dull shoes..." I can't wait to buy this one! //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 00:04:28 -0400 From: Windblows@aol.com Subject: Mock hi! I know this isnt a forum for whom-ever-you-want-to-talk-about, for bands.... BUT... I just bought this e.p. in absolute blindness, never hearing of this group before, only because i tyhought it would be intersting, and found something really really good. The band is called: Mock and the e.p. is called "skyrider" on Bite back records (UK) 94 I usually hate it when people say 'this band sounds like so and so', but...... if MBV and Slowdive-(just for a day era) melded they would be this band. { male and female vocals together here too) Yes, they are really that good! i know it is only four songs, but...still. if anyone out there in shogazer dreampopland can give me some info on this band please do...whether private e-mail or thru the list i would greatly appreciate it..... and if any of you think you might like what i have described- you probably will. byeeeeeeeee, flange and all joe --------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 23:58:53 CST From: o-o-o Subject: mojave3 discography As I am sure it must be brief, and probably more trouble than its worth to look up via ftp, would someone send me the Mojave3 discography. If it is too mundane a post for the list, send it to me personally, please. --gary (gruisinger@cctr.umkc.edu) ---------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 20:49:02 +0000 From: Pete Stenberg Subject: mojave 3 * slowdive well...i'm new to this...i'm not exactly sure if i'm doing this right, but it's worth a try...(someone let me know, please) my dreams have come true and it's nice to have some people to share them with i'm krissy from Chicago...(i cannot adequately express my happiness in finding this site, by the way...) i'll start at the beginning...(ie:the "Slowdive" days)...i was fortunate enough to see "Slowdive" here years ago and i thought it couldn't get any better than that...little did i know... Slowdive, alone, has compiled more memories for me than anything in my life and when i heard they were calling it quits i was devistated...i thought i would never be given the opportunity to see them (ie: Neil, Ian, Rachel) again and i couldn't think of anything more heartbreaking...HOWEVER, i never lost faith in them...i just crossed my fingers and prayed that they would continue to combine their creative energies elsewhere...i waited...waited... when what to my wondering eyes should appear???? none other than the brilliant "Mojave 3"...these musical masterminds never cease to amaze me...Neil is a creative genius...Rachel, an angel...and Ian, also sent straight from the heavens... i was estatic when i caught word of the "Shaving" tour... the brilliant threesome (Moj. 3) passed thru here(Chicago) last Thursday (5.9.96)...needless to say, they blew me away. As "Scheer" was playing my friends & i went downstairs...not knowing what we were in for We were fortunate enough to meet Neil, Rachel & Ian at the bottom of those stairs...3 of the friendliest, most unintimidating people i have ever met... i mentioned to Ian that my friends and i were thinking of driving to St.Louis for their next show and he told me that if we decided to go he would put us on their guest list... have i died and gone to heaven??? not only am i standing here with THE 3 most influential, inspirational people in my life but i am being offered a spot on their guest list...*HUGE SMILE* naturally we accepted and were off to St.Louis...where we, once again experienced the awesome powers of "mojave 3" and mingled with neil, ian & rachel...UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!!!! I am still in awe and will be for a long time to come... i am now content with the thought of death in that all that i have dreamed of has become a reality...i will die with a smile and i owe it to them... i know this letter has dragged a bit but what i am feeling means a lot to me and i appreciate you listening... please contact me...i have more to tell(believe it or not) -krissy....pspi@jorsm.com --------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 22:12:20 +0000 From: Pete Stenberg Subject: mojave 3/slowdive this is krissy again...have you recieved my first letter??? PLEASE JUST LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS WORKING ....thanx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:28:25 -0400 From: Moonstar9@aol.com Subject: cocteau twin-seefeel tour hi, on sale tomorrow are tickets for cocteau's and mark clifford at the roxy in nyc on june 12th. hmmmm, sounds fun. jared ----------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 11:39:40 -0500 (EST) From: fiddlepoke Subject: Moringrise wow, in Ft. Wayne yesterday I was in subterranian records, an indie record/clothing/bondage gear store. Basically, I found moringrise on CD for 8.99 yay, woo hoo, rock and all ---------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 01:46:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Selby Subject: 4ad promo tape i'm curious exactly what was on the promo tape 4ad passed out at all the mojave3/lush/scheer shows? I was there, but apparently they decided the venue i was at only held 100 people and since i didn't rush to leave afterward, I didn't get a copy. just curious what i'm missing out on... jason. --------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 11:55:02 GMT -5 From: "WILDER SPACEMAN GONZALES AGREDA" <932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE> Subject: re: Silvania stockists Forwarded from Philip Howard. >Well, rather than do any work I've been busy on Altavista looking for >hints on how to get Silvania's albums. The most interesting English >language references will follow this message. While I'm no expert on >exchange rates it looks like the albums would be no more expensive to >acquire for fellow UK readers (and presumably Scandanivians, if the >stereotype of everything being expensive over there is true) than if >they were in the local record shops. >I don't suppose anyone would know how Elefant accept payment? No >sense in sending cash if there's an easy alternative... (assuming I >get round to buying the things!) Well Philip it's been some time already since you posted this to the list, so let us know did you finally get the silvania discs? What is your impression about them? Cheers. Wilder. --------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 20:02:30 +0100 (BST) From: "P.D.Howard" Subject: Re: Silvania stockists Hi all, and Wilder in particular, > Well Philip it's been some time already since you posted this to > the list, so let us know did you finally get the silvania discs? > What is your impression about them? Aha - bet you all thought I hadn't bothered! As it happens it took a couple of weeks for me to get round to ordering the currency (yes, cash) from my bank, and quite a while longer for the currency to get to me (we had a mixup in that neither I nor the bank clerk realised that Spain no longer issues 500pta notes - annoying as the CD+postage is 2320 ptas). My order for 'Paisanjes III', plus a few Elefant postcards and badges, was finally put in the post at the end of last week! 3000ptas cash came to a bit more than stlg16. Bank charges would have made any other method of payment, in the apparent absence of a Visa service, more expensive than that. I'll post my opinion to the list when I've got the album and listened to it a few times. Don't hold your collective breath on either count... BTW, do you mind turning the Urgent setting off your posts Wilder? It doesn't go away after I've read the message concerned! Cheers all, Philip -------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 23:25:02 CST From: o-o-o Subject: really clean Anybody who wanted to go see Shaving the Pavement miss it? Are you kicking yourself for missing out on the tape with the KCRW "Mercy" (not to mention the best Lisa Germano song I have ever heard)? Want to pay an exhorbitant sum for a basically free tape? let me know--I might hook you up with my "extra" copy. --gary (gruisinger@cctr.umkc.edu) ps--I may be an asshole (always the east coast, you know), but I'm honest. ----------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 19:24:20 +0000 From: Pete Stenberg Subject: just a word to the wise... hi...it's krissy again. Being that you are all members of this list/digest, i'm going to assume that you are as fond of "slowdive" as i. In that regard, i have a recommendation for you to consider. I was recently contacted by a guy named ben (also from this list), who suggested that since i loved "slowdive" so much, i might also enjoy listening to his band "the sunflower conspiracy"! Well, he was right...there is an INCREDIBLE similarity between the two bands. The style...textures...everything. Ben's voice is nearly identical to that of Neil and the female vocalist (Kate) also bears a striking resemblance (vocally) to that of Rachel. My point??????? Well, i HIGHLY recommend contacting these guys and purchasing one of their tapes! You will NOT be disappointed...i promise. It'll cost you $4...what have you to lose??? You can reach Ben @: bpadrian@cord.iupui.edu Just something for you all to consider...i know i sound like a pathetic salesperson or something of that nature, but i was just so impressed with these guys, i felt compelled to spread the word. Well, that's about it for now... Take care -krissy- pspi@jorsm.com ----------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:57:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Marc Morehead <00161068@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: colfax abbey hi all... today i heard a cd by a band by colfax abbey. amazing, very much like "just for a day." quite nice. has anyone else heard of this band? unfortunately, i don't remember the name of the cd; it might have been self-titled. jason ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 00:42:01 -0400 From: Srilank@aol.com Subject: Re: colfax abbey > today i heard a cd by a band by colfax abbey. amazing, very >much like "just for a day." quite nice. has anyone else heard of >this band? unfortunately, i don't remember the name of the cd; it >might have been self-titled. Could you tell us the label and the country it was from? thanks. jason srilank@aol.com ------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 01:09:08 -0600 From: joroses@mail.utexas.edu (surgeon general lipsmacker) Subject: Re: colfax abbey and the name was Srilank@aol.com, and the thought was: > > today i heard a cd by a band by colfax abbey. amazing, very > >much like "just for a day." quite nice. has anyone else heard of > >this band? unfortunately, i don't remember the name of the cd; it > >might have been self-titled. > > Could you tell us the label and the country it was from? > > thanks. > jason > srilank@aol.com http://www.tt.net/trg a friend of mine found the cd on one of his 'listen to a pile of cds by bands you've never heard of but whose name or album just looks, well, promising' jaunts and i have to say that the few songs i heard were fabulous. the last time i checked the web site all it had was pictures, but it's on prospective records from *this year* (which quite frankly blows my mind) and i think they're from amerikkka. i'm hunting down the cd also. i think it was called 'drop' but i'm not sure. .j. ------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:30:25 -0600 From: prospect@tt.net (Chris Strouth) Subject: Re: colfax abbey (fwd) >> hi all... >> >> today i heard a cd by a band by colfax abbey. amazing, very >> much like "just for a day." quite nice. has anyone else heard of >> this band? unfortunately, i don't remember the name of the cd; it >> might have been self-titled. >> >> jason Hi, The name of the Colfax Abbey record is Drop, and it is on Prospective Records (distribuited by ADA) there is half a web site up at www.tt.net/prospective/index.html that you can check out . They are going on a Midwest and East coast tour (of the US)In June so they may be coming to a town near you soon. They are based in Minneapolis. The Record was produced By Keith Cleversly (Spirtulized, Hum, Flaming Lips) and Ed Ackerson (Polaria,27 Various, Attena) Oh and they use tthe same keyboard as Throbbing Gristle (of course Colfax didn't know that) It is a pretty Fab record, but then I am biased , I put it out. Hope that helps, Chris Strouth -------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:45:54 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: SANCHEZ/VASQUEZ/DAVID ELIAS Subject: take me down ep...??? Hi, can somebody give me information about the take me down ep..?? and, one question, i will want know the tour of Mojave for europe ....( the dates and place , of course ) regards David ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:48:26 -0400 From: Srilank@aol.com Subject: Re: colfax abbey (fwd) >Hi , >The name of the Colfax Abbey record is Drop, and it is on Prospective >Records (distribuited by ADA) there is half a web site up at >www.tt.net/prospective/index.html >that you can check out . They are going on a Midwest and East coast tour >(of the US)In June so they may be coming to a town near you soon. They are >based in Minneapolis. If you could-- please post an address either publicly (which I don't think most Slowdive listies would object to) *or* privately of where you're at, how much the disc is post-paid, and what type of payment you prefer. thanks. jason srilank@aol.com ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:23:28 -0600 From: prospect@tt.net (Chris Strouth) Subject: Re: colfax abbey (fwd) >>Hi , >>The name of the Colfax Abbey record is Drop, and it is on Prospective >>Records (distribuited by ADA) there is half a web site up at >>www.tt.net/prospective/index.html >> that you can check out . They are going on a Midwest and East coast tour >>(of the US)In June so they may be coming to a town near you soon. They are >>based in Minneapolis. > >If you could-- please post an address either publicly (which I don't think >most Slowdive listies would object to) *or* privately of where you're at, how >much the disc is post-paid, and what type of payment you prefer. You can Mail order it at Prospective/UltraModern records 2217 nicollet ave s Mpls Mn 55404 USA The cost is $12 (us postpaid) outside the US please enclose an addaitonal $2 for shipping) We also have a gaggle of singles and full lengths in a simmilalir vein Hi Fi stuff like Colfax Abbey (Cd and single) Shape Shifter (single) February(single) Overblue(single) Spare Snare (Cd and Singles(3)) Fauna (Cd and single) Hang Ups (single) Savage Aural Hotbed (CD) Deep Shag (single)(guyitair player from Shaterproof) just to name a Bunch. We also have all the early Ed Ackerson (Polaria) stuff as well as the Blue Up? early stuff. You can see the whole back catalog on the website. Sorry to sound so comercial but just thought you all might want to know...and knowing is half the battle. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 15:49:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Marc Morehead <00161068@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: recommendations hi all... does anyone know of any artists, other than mojave 3 and scenic, who make melancholy, atmospheric, mellow music that has a country/western tinge? i've heard of a small, good thing(on soleilmoon); they're supposed to make very slow slide-guitar ambient music. i also heard tarnation, but it didn't impress me as much as i thought it would and i've heard that some of moose's later stuff does this very ghostly, western type of music. i apologize if this is a little vague, but any help would be appreciated. jason "i wanna be adored" - the stone roses ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 20:08:11 +0100 (BST) From: "P.D.Howard" Subject: Re: recommendations Jason, > hi all... > > does anyone know of any artists, other than mojave 3 and scenic, > who make melancholy, atmospheric, mellow music that has a > country/western tinge? Pausing only to warn the Fire Brigade, I'm going to suggest Chris Isaak's debut album, 'Silvertone'. To be frank, I don't see much difference between Mojave3 and this (or indeed kd's 'Ingenue'). I hope nobody out there will disagree on grounds of record labels... Cheers, Philip Howard ----------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 05:13:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: FWD: slowdive effects I think this was meant for the mailing list: > Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 13:45:01 -0700 > From: Jonathan Barteaux > Subject: slowdive effects > > if your looking for the slowdive sound,here is what you'll need.first > this is pretty costly but worth it.the roland GR-1 will give you what you > need and more.also,pitch shift,and delay pedals are great boss makes > those.try this..digital reverb with super chorus,delay,slight > distortion,and flanger or super fazer will work.experiment with the > flanger,you can make a hormony feedback effect that sounds > great.Tuning...tune the 3rd string to the fith[the A string] so it is an > octave higher than the A string.then tune the 2nd string down to the same > note as the third string.this gives a 12 string kind of sound for the > 2nd and the 3rd string.strum and it sounds like notes melting.add some > chorus,reverb,delay and you can play "As the sun hits" and "waves". well > have fun and be sure to look for "BLUE LIGHT SPECIAL" in dec.great band > if you love slowdive. jeremy cohrac ----------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:31:50 -0400 From: dcay@icu.com (Barbara Alcantara) Subject: SlowdiveCD Just to let you know - Just For A Day is available through CD Works for $6. E-mail dstack@netcom.com for details. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 17:13:44 +0000 From: Pete Stenberg Subject: dead can dance what i am about to write is not of a slowdive/mojave3 nature...however, it may interest some of you.(* my sincere apologies extended to those not interested*) following their newest release 'spiritchaser' on "4ad" (available now in europe...in the u.s. available 6-11) 'dead can dance' is touring for three months thru europe/u.s./south america! for those of you familiar with the power of their music, you are probably just as excited as i to hear such incredible news...for those of you not so familiar, i HIGHLY recommend checking them out when they pass thru...(a phenomonal experience you will NEVER forget...trust me, i'm speaking from experience)! a complete list of their touring schedule can be obtained @ www.4ad.com. (worth taking a peek at) for the benefit of your own, i hope you are able to see them... take care! -krissy- pspi@jorsm.com ------------------------------ End of The Avalyn Digest #1.07 ****************************** * To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Digest version of the list, send your request (including the word "DIGEST") to: avalyn-request@lysator.liu.se * To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Live version of the list, send your request to: avalyn-request@lysator.liu.se * The maintainer of both mailing lists is chief@lysator.liu.se, and can also be reached at owner-avalyn@lysator.liu.se * All messages to the Live mailing list should be sent to: avalyn@lysator.liu.se * The digests can also be found in in ASCII format at ftp.lysator.liu.se /pub/texts/uxu/avalyn and in HTML format at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html.