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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 88

Today's Topics:
	 Re: [B7L] Myers Briggs
	 Re: [B7L] Myers Briggs
	 Re: [B7L] PD and Avon
	 [B7L] Redemption con reports
	 Re: [B7L] Career change?
	 Re: [B7L] Career change?
	 Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues
	 Re: [B7L] Career change?
	 Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues
	 Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills
	 Re: [B7L] Review: Solstice
	 Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar
	 Re: [B7L] Career change?
	 Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar
	 Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar
	 [B7L] Swansea + Paul Darrow
	 Re: [B7L] Review: Solstice
	 Re: [B7L] Redemption Con report
	 Re: [B7L] Swansea + Paul Darrow
	 Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long)
	 Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long)
	 [B7L] Dream writers/directors/guest stars for B7
	 Re: [B7L] Dream writers/directors/guest stars for B7
	 Re: [B7L] Myers Briggs
	 Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long)

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:57:37 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: "Ma.James" <ma@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
CC: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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> Date:          27 Feb 1999 11:25:01 -0800
> From:          "Ma.James" <ma@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
> To:            blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject:       [B7L] Myers Briggs

> Not that I have anything against Myers Briggs or Vick, I would simply rather
> base my interpretations of the characters on what I see on the screen rather
> than on a questionable personality test.  So I'm deleting, deleting, deleting...


Hello friends. I'm back. I suppose I'm the only person on this list 
who has to travel 15 miles over land and sea to answer their e-mail, 
so I like my e-mail to be worthwhile....
Let's get back to the Briggs!

Vick

Ha HA hahahahahahahahahahaha!

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:00:48 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
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> I actually like the Cally (INF) side of
> me better and have worked at developing this for many years.
> 

Conformist!!!!

Vick.

Back with a vengaence!!

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:06:29 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: abasart@dnai.com
CC: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] PD and Avon
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> Reply-to:      <abasart@dnai.com>
> From:          "Ann Basart" <abasart@dnai.com>

> Someone on the list conjectured that Paul Darrow didn't really understand
> Avon. Sounds like the beginning of a very interesting new thread. What was
> Avon _really_ like? How _should_ PD have played him differently?

Avon was an INTP. Paul started out good, but seeings as he isn't an 
INTP, he evolved into Han Solo / Jim Kirk.
Have you read Paul's writings in the old Marvel Magazines?
Proves my point doesn't it.

Regards,

Vick.

INTP and iconoclast.

> Ann
> abasart@dnai.com
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 12:10:41 +0000
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, Space City <space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] Redemption con reports
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We are going to change the web page to a post con version and we would
like some con reports on it. Can people who have, or are planning to,
post reports let me know if they mind if these go up.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson

"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:18:07 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change?
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> Sure must! Remember your Clarke: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
> indistinguishable from magic."
> 

My name's Clarke, so I'm hardly likely to forget.

Vick 

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:20:00 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change?
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> BTW, I think it must be a 'P' trait to hit 'reply all' and give the
> person your addressing 2 copies of all your emails instead of taking a
> few seconds to fix the address. Or is it just plain apathy?
> 
Sorry, no wonder everyone found my Myers-Briggs thread so annoying.

Vick.

Apathy? I just couldn't give a damn!

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:23:48 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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> And where does Avon's brother fit in to all this?  <very evil grin>
> 
Avon doesn't have a brother. The manifestation he saw was his own 
shadow. That's why it addressed him Avon and also why Avon looked so
perturbed.

Vick

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:29:25 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change?
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>
> Unfortunately, us poor Yanks don't get to see Paul very often if at all.  I
> think he'd make a fabulous Technomage!  Or maybe a Centauri...can you imagine
> him and Londo at a Centauri banquet?
>

I think he'd be great as Zaphod Beeblebrox in a re-make of HHGTTG, 
along with Paul Merton as Arthur Dent, Richard Cadell as Ford Prefect 
and Kylie Minougue as Trillian. After seeing him in Guards! Guards! 
last month,  I've come to appriciate his talent for comedy. Perfect.

Vick

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:33:31 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues
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>  Also, for my tastes, I've read stories where I thought
> Servalan, Cally, etc. were turned into Mary Sues....

Exactly my point, although that was a couple of weeks ago now. 
In my 25000 page unpublished (still waiting) novella Tomb of Ezron, 
Avon is ME!

Vick

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:36:09 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills
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-- he must be of Irish descent. Vila

With a name like Restal, he's more likely to be Jewish.

Vick

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:41:38 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Review: Solstice
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> Pennant Roberts had his own quarry story.  They had to pull up plants (I
> couldn't catch the name; maybe one of you British gardeners can tell me what
> it is--it sounds like something I might want to plant)

It's called Buddlia, and it's purple! I don't know if it grows where 
you live but I'd you not to try importing any, for fear of disrupting 
the eco-system. It grows like crazy!

Vick

> from one section of the
> quarry during a shoot, because the plants were attracting butterflies, and
> butterflies didn't seem to go with the alien planet look they were trying to
> achieve.

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:50:38 GMT0BST
From: "VJC" <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
To: Russ Massey <russ@wriding.demon.co.uk>
CC: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar
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> Avon rarely failed to intimidate any women he got his lips onto. 
 
Avon acts like a person who's been hurt before and indeed this he is. 
He would never kiss a woman that he felt no spite against, that's 
why he didn't kiss Meegat. The last woman he kissed in love was Anna, 
and look what she did to him. Avon has become a product of his own 
cynicism. The post-modern quasi-reclusive techno wizard, thrown out 
of life and into uncertainty. His intelligence and his poetic sense 
of irony are all that remains of the original Kerr. Pity him.

Vick

On a philosophical tip!

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:33:24 EST
From: Pherber@aol.com
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In a message dated 2/27/99 11:38:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, avona@jps.net
writes:

> I can picture it now.
>  	 A splendid ridge of hair, except for this gap in the center... a coat
>  cut in the approved Regency-style men's formal wear, made of pure black
>  leather. A silver lame sash runs crosswise, shoulder to knee, indicating
>  his high rank. And around all edges of the coat, a line of white piping
>  and a double row of silver studs. He surveys himself in a mirror with an
>  off-kilter smile. 
>  	"I thought my career was dead after I got stuck on a ship with that mad
>  rebel, Blaicoroggi. Fortunately, the new Emperor had no love of the old,
>  and I might be able to regain my ministry in the financial sector.
>  V'lan!" He snaps his fingers, and the Narn, a free soul  who preffered
>  life in a civilization where there were things worth stealing, brushed
>  his own drab clothing (which held an assortment of useful, hidden
>  things) into place, and handed  Avon Kerronoli his ornate sword cane.

LOL!  You just made me realize how much Vir reminds me of Vila.  But I'm
having a hard time picturing an obsequious Narn.  Hmmmm.....

Nina

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:03:38 +0000
From: Russ Massey <russ@wriding.demon.co.uk>
To: VJC <csm80316@port.ac.uk>
Cc: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar
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In message <2E71B21355F@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk>, VJC
<csm80316@port.ac.uk> writes
>
>> Avon rarely failed to intimidate any women he got his lips onto. 
> 
>Avon acts like a person who's been hurt before and indeed this he is. 
>He would never kiss a woman that he felt no spite against, that's 
>why he didn't kiss Meegat. The last woman he kissed in love was Anna, 
>and look what she did to him.

It's a wonder the experience didn't drive him into the arms of a man :)


-- 
Russ Massey
Sirius Games, 161 Montague Street, Worthing,
West Sussex BN11 3BZ
(01903 217334)  http://www.wriding.demon.co.uk

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:01:44 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Russ quoting Vick:

> The last woman he kissed in love was Anna, 
>  >and look what she did to him.
>  
>  It's a wonder the experience didn't drive him into the arms of a man :)

LOL!  I think Russ has been hanging out on SC for too long.  He knows how we
think. 

Vick, thanks for the Buddlia information.  I shall pass that along to my
husband--he's the family gardener--along with your wise advice about not
importing alien plant life.  I would enjoy some butterfly friendly flora about
if he can come up with Buddlia or something similar.

Carol Mc

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Date:          Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:39:22 GMT0BST
From: B WILLCOCK <pl6b2bww@swansea.ac.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Swansea + Paul Darrow
Message-ID: <7A3F9F6878@POLI2.SWAN.AC.UK>

    Guards Guards opened in Swansea last night to a very enthusiastic 
crowd who greatly enjoyed the play. Indeed the cast themselves seemed 
to be enjoying it as well.
    The entire cast also made themselves available for autographs in 
the bar and were very happy to answer questions, indeed I was 
surprised to be asked by Death whether anyone caught his thrown 
dafadil at the end!
    Paul was very kind and amenable to the waiting autograph hunters, 
myself included.
    In fact I was very pleased to be able to meet him again at 
Waterstones this morning where he spent about 20 minutes talking 
about people as diverse as Terry Scott, Roger Taylor (of Queen), Bob 
Hoskins and Geoffrey Archer! He denied his own autobiography would be 
interesting when I asked him if he would be prepared to write one!!
    I must confess getting so long with Paul must be every convention 
fans dream, he told me two things which I found especially 
interesting. 
    First that his friend George Takei told him Leonard Nimoy watched 
B7 before making Star Trek 3!! and also that there is likely to be a 
third radio production at the end of the year, with even vague talk 
about a possible radio series. He also felt that the BBC simply 
refuses repeats because of the money they are currently making and 
would have to shell out if it was screened again.
    He also confessed that his book `The Eye' (which I really 
enjoyed and is amazingly out of print, we must get onto Boxtree about 
this!!) was actually written in just a month! I always look to books 
like this as a bonus to the B7 universe.
    It was also nice to meet up with people from the list for the 
first time (hello all!). For those about to see the play in the 
future -enjoy.
    All the best,
    Bryn. 

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:28:22 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Review: Solstice
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Carol wrote:
>Pennant Roberts had his own quarry story.  They had to pull up plants (I
>couldn't catch the name; maybe one of you British gardeners can tell me
what
>it is--it sounds like something I might want to plant) from one section of
the
>quarry during a shoot, because the plants were attracting butterflies, and
>butterflies didn't seem to go with the alien planet look they were trying
to
>achieve.

As VJC pointed out, it is indeed Buddleia (sometimes spelt Buddleja), but
also known just as 'butterfly bush'.  B. davidii is a good one for
attracting butterflies to the garden, since it flowers in late summer.
Plenty of sunlight, not too much water, and make sure the soil is alkaline
(it can grow in bare chalk).

Note to butterfly fans - larval food plants are even more important than
nectar sources for the adults.  Just a pity the larvae prefer nettles,
thistles, long grass etc - precisely the things most gardeners dedicate
themselves to getting rid of.

Neil

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:46:42 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Redemption Con report
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Iain wrote:
>Sunday Afternoon: A couple of discussions. I organise a small workshop on
>dodgy science in B7 which is good fun with thought-provoking contributions
>from all who join in. I even make an apology to Neil, but that's a matter
>for another post.

Ah, but thanks to the wonders of the flipchart and the mighty marker pen, I
now know about Roche lobes.  Confusion is dispelled and apologies rendered
superfluous.

The Dodgy Science was a great session - all thanks to Iain for taking the
trouble.  I was also impressed by the panel with David Walsh, a man of
tremendous courage, and Lillian Shepherd's talk on putting the science into
media fiction without necessarily knowing anything remotely scientific.

Everyone responsible for getting Redemption off the ground deserves
congratulating.  It was my fourth con and easily the best, not least because
it was far and away the most efficiently managed I've experienced.
Virtually every event I went to ran on schedule (unlike my train home).  It
was great to meet so many people, for the first time or otherwise, and the
idea of a fan-oriented (as opposed to guest-oriented) con worked splendidly.

Double thanks, of course, to all those who bought me a pint...

Neil

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:40:49 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Swansea + Paul Darrow
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Bryn passed along from Paul:

> and also that there is likely to be a 
>  third radio production at the end of the year, with even vague talk 
>  about a possible radio series.

That's great news.  Thanks for sharing it.

Neil wrote:

> B. davidii is a good one for
>  attracting butterflies to the garden, since it flowers in late summer.
>  Plenty of sunlight, not too much water, and make sure the soil is alkaline
>  (it can grow in bare chalk).

Thanks for the additional recommendation.  I shall print all of this up and
pass it along to the resident green thumb.

Carol Mc

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:03:27 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long)
Message-ID: <ZsfitPAfIF32EwJL@jajones.demon.co.uk>

In message <36D4D0A1.15079A0A@ptinet.net>, mistral@ptinet.net writes
>4) What Happens When You Give a Geek a Spaceship (my personal vote): In
>my experience, inside every little geeky male computer nerd there is a
>superhero [monster] screaming to be let out <veg>.

I think there's a lot of truth in this one...

>5) Male Mental-Pause (made up this morning, especially for you, after
>40 hours without sleep, and it's just crazy and scientifically
>plausible enough to be the 'truth'): Avon is roughly Blake's age,
>possibly a little older, putting him early to mid-thirties when we meet
>him. 

Even with my low opinion of the male animal, I'm not sure I'd go along
with the idea that a man in his early thirties is likely to go into
menopause. But then, Avon isn't in his early thirties. Considering the
actors as well as the characters - Blake's age as stated in the series
(32 in Weapon) is the same as Gareth Thomas's. Avon's age isn't stated,
but Paul Darrow was 35 or 36 when filming started (I can't remember
exactly when filming started, and I'm not going looking for my copy of
the Boxtree book).

Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
        The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 16:25:44 -0800
From: mistral@ptinet.net
To: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Julia Jones wrote:

> Even with my low opinion of the male animal, I'm not sure I'd go along
> with the idea that a man in his early thirties is likely to go into
> menopause.

	Yes, I can see how that idea seems a bit iffy; I'd always thought that
midlife crises started closer to about age forty, until I read a book on
the
midlife change and how it is portrayed in folktales, and was surprised
to
discover that it generally does start in the early-to-mid thirties --
something I've seen played out in the lives of people around me, now
that
I'm aware of it. I have a dear friend who's 35, and she's well and truly
sunk into the middle of her own existential midlife crisis -- I've also
seen
several men start to develop a roving eye and/or leave their families at
about this age.    
	As for how this applies to Avon, well, that was mostly a joke, although
I do think a plausible one; (pause to go check Weapon); the
clone gives his (Blake's) age as 34, actually, which would make Blake
32-33
when we meet him; I've no idea how that relates to Avon's age, never
having
seen any pre-production background material for the show. I've just
always
assumed Avon's age to be in a range somewhere between Blake's stated age
and
Paul Darrow's actual age. (I don't think it's plausible that he's
younger
than Blake; it seems to me the interpersonal dynamic suggests that
another
thing bugging Avon might be having to defer to a younger man.)
    If you assume some individual variation from society to society and
person to person, I'd guess anything from early thirties to early
forties
could be considered reasonable for the onset of the midlife crisis; and
Avon
does seem to display some signs of that typical existential angst (want
to
believe in something/nothing worth believing in - which seems to me a
big
part of his conflict with Blake); so I'd maintain that a competent
writer
could do something with it; but really, I'd just intended it as a rather
sideways, mildly humorous possibility :)
    And, BTW, I'd love to hear anybody else's ideas about what might be
a
logical/silly explanation for the change in Avon from series A to series
D.
Or how many angels can dance on the head of a pin :)

Cheers,
Mistral
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 03:41:19 -0000
From: "Jonathan" <jonathan@meanwhile.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "Blake's 7 List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Dream writers/directors/guest stars for B7
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Proposed pointless exercise : If you imagine you had a US primetime sixth
season of Blake's Seven - there's a big  budget and the CGI team has already
been headhunted from B5/DS9  - who would you pick to write / direct / guest
star ?

Personally I'd like to have an AE van Vogt script to start the season. This
is *my* fantasy, so I'd have the production company time machine pull him
out from the '40's when his work was at a peak. I've always seen B7 as very
Vogt-ish - the power-mad characters, super-technology and crazed plotting
 of the writers and the charcters) are common to both.

CJ Cheryth would be an especially obvious choice if I wanted another SF
novelist - I'ved said before how much her heroine in Cyteen reminds me of
Avon and she's used to long-running space opera plots. Still from SF, Vernor
Vinge is good at computers and spacewar, so he makes a great choice for the
sixth season's version of the computer-trying-to-take-over-the-galaxy story.
And (really pushing it here) I think I'd like a Patrick O'Brian script for a
character-oriented story (set, if he really insists, on a planet where the
locals speak in C19th English.) And I'll have a Le Carre script for a spy
story - either Anna's clone or her brother is looking for Avon ?

I haven't really made my mind up about actors, except that I'd like a cameo
for Kenneth Williams and a role for Brian Blessed as a barbarian ruler
 because earlier seasons had parts that must have been written for his stock
barbarian king act but he never appeared - probably because the budget
wouldn't stretch that far. )

Directors - I think this is the controversial one. I'm probably in a
minority here, but I think that killing the Scorpio's crew (and especially
Avon killing Blake) was a terrific move. Very Verdi - really space *opera*.
So to restore dramatic unity and tension, the resurrected crew has to be
killed off even more dramatically - and most of all painfully - at the end
of season six.

I see a plot along the lines of Avon and Servalan finally getting together.
They retire to a mansion in the Magnellic clouds, safely out of reach of war
crimes commissions, old enemies, vengeful Auronites, and rebels peeved at
Avon blowing away their hero. Cut to shots of the the sociopathic two
running giddily through meadows, playing with kittens/Mutoids/Andromedans,
choosing china patterns, flying kites.

Villa warns Avon it's a trap, but Avon won't listen. Dayna and Tarrant
object much more strenuously. They decide to kill Servalan. There's a big
gun fight where Avon and Soolin wipe them out, but through some freak
Soolin, the cast's deadliest gunfighter, is slain.

Servalan hears the news that one of them is dead but thinks it's Avon. She
mourns, and attempts to commit suicide after singing an aria. Villa finally
believes that her love for Avon is sincere and restrains and comforts her.

Then Avon arrives back. He see's Villa holding her in his arms and concludes
that they've got a serious social snuggling relationship going on behind his
back. He's Avon, so he kills them both. Orac then tells him the truth. He's
still Avon, so he sets fire to the set and strides into the flames holding
Orac...

I have a *strong* gut feeling that Tarrantino is the man we need for this,
although Villa especially may disagree.


(The probably crazed) Jonathan Coupe

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:03:33 -0600
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Dream writers/directors/guest stars for B7
Message-Id: <199903030408.WAA19900@mail.dallas.net>
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Jonathan wrote:

>I have a *strong* gut feeling that Tarrantino is the man we need for this,

I'd recommend Giacomo Puccini, personally.

	- Lisa

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:11:01 -0700 (MST)
From: Betty Ragan <bragan@aoc.nrao.edu>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Myers Briggs
Message-Id: <199903030411.VAA04854@gardenia.aoc.nrao.edu>

Somebody asked me about the other personality test I mentioned and
whether it was on-line, but apparently there was a problem with my
e-mail address and the bot blocked my post.  Anyway, Calle very kindly
forwarded it back to me, so FWIW here was my response to
whoever-it-was:

> I haven't seen one, despite having spent some time recently looking.
> If anybody else knows of one, I'd love to hear about it.  (The name of
> the test is the Berkeley Personality Profile.)

*Sigh*.  I seem to have nothing but problems posting here.  I think
maybe something is telling me to go back into lurk-mode...

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Betty Ragan (bragan@nrao.edu)  Home page: http://www.nrao.edu/~bragan
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caffienated beverages available..." -- an American Sleep Disorders 
Association pamphlet on shift work

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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 01:21:34 PST
From: "Rob Clother" <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long)
Message-ID: <19990303092135.7523.qmail@hotmail.com>
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>Even with my low opinion of the male animal, etc. etc.

I take offence at that throwaway remark.  I happen to be one of the 
species, and my upbringing has taught me, where possible, to treat women 
with politeness and respect.  I have an implicit understanding that 
broad, sweeping attacks on the female gender are unacceptable.  
Personally, I expect the same respect to be extended to my own gender.

Everyone is entitled to hold their own opinion: however, this list 
amounts to a public forum.  Please keep your sexist opinions private: 
they are no more acceptable coming from members of one sex than the 
other.

-- Rob


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