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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 53
Today's Topics:
[B7L] limericks
[B7L] Re: Flat Robin
Re: Fwd: RE: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
Re: [B7L] Flat Robin continues...
Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
[B7L] hodge podge
[B7L] Sheelagh's tapes
[B7L] Refractions on the Net
Re: [B7L] Flat Robin continues...
Re: [B7L] hodge podge
[B7L] Re: My Dream
[B7L] Blake
Re: [B7L] Blake
Re: [B7L] Blake
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:19:40 -0000
From: "Debra Collard" <Debra@whisson1.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "B7L" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] limericks
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There was a great leader called Blake
Who was considered by many a fake
but he rose up in arms
and used all his charms
And is now out for all he can take
A clever young thief name of Vila
Said 'I'm not really much of a killer
and if you give me a gun
I promise I'll run
To that handily placed nearby pillar'
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 12:35:25 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Flat Robin
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Very good! Boffo laffs! I reckon Death mistook Vila for Rincewind...I
wish I could contribute but I left my creativity in my other pants. I
think I may even be out of limericks. Of the PG variety anyhow. I
realize what a blow this must be to you all...
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:00:55 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
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Pat P pondered:
>What would you find if you opened up the Blakes7 crew? I postulate:
...
>Tarrant - grape bubble gum
>Soolin - crushed diamonds
>Travis - black goo squirming with hard shelled beetles
>Servalan - sharp-edged sequins
Last night I had a dream based on this posting. Just thought you'd like
to know the power of your creative vision. Or maybe this says more about
*me*...
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:52:23 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Flat Robin continues...
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(Someone else join in, please? I know I'm adding stuff pretty often, but
I'll be back to work Monday and we will certainly need more writers to
keep it going. Com'on then, I know you are all funny and talented!)
>
> The death of rats looked at someone behind Vila. It said, very loudly,
> "squeek!". Vila started trembling as he heard a bony footstep behind him,
> and a very, very cold voice said: "YES?".
>
Vila slowly raised a glasss over his shoulder. "Andrenaline and soma?"
"THANK YOU." The voice reminded him of the thud of a judge's gavel
reading sentence.
"Don't mention it."
"I will mention it," Jenna's voice raised sharply. "You've already had
one glass, you don't need another. You need to be sober to handle the
teleport."
Vila mumbled that this was likely the last glass he'd ever have.
"SHE CAN'T SEE ME," Death explained to him, "MOST PEOPLE CAN'T. AT LEAST
NOT WHILE THEY'RE ALIVE."
"SNE, SNE, SNE" The Death of Rats enjoyed the terrified look as VIla
automaticcally raised his hand to check his heart.
Death came through the furniture and sat next to Vila, an act that gave
the thief no comfort. "I'M JUST HERE TO SEE THE SHIP. I'VE NEVER SEEN
ONE LIKE THIS BEFORE. NOT PERSONALLY."
"Oh, in that case, shall I give you a tour?" Vila began to relax.
"IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VERY FAST. YOUR TIME HAS NOT YET RUN OUT< BUT I'M
NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE SUN."
"The su-- Jenna!"
The blonde pilot swung her head up. "Yes?"
"Jenna, what about the sun?"
She looked down at her navigation systems and saw something big and hot
appraoching. "Damn!" She quickly put full power on a single thruster,
verring them in closer to the disk below. "Thank you Vila. The
computer's are complete unable to cope with this system. I'd worked out
a trajectory to compenstate for the disk, the turtle and the moon, but
I'm used to suns being orbitted, not the other way around. What made you
think of it."
"Oh, a little skeleton told me." Death and The Death of Rats had both
disappeared while he was looking at Jenna. Or so he thought.
A voice from the doorway said, "I WILL SEE YOU LATER."
Vila drained the rest of his glass.
*****
There weren't many rock quarries around Ankh-Morpork, but they had
landed in one. What none of the rebels had ever done was translate the
System's language throughoughly, or they would know that the default
setting of the teleport was always 'rock quarry'. The Liberator had been
designed to do geological surveys and that seemed the most efficient
way.
And so it was that, even before Blake had raised his bracelet to say,
"Down and safe," Avon was scanning the area with eyes and gun,
simultaneously. "Oh, good. More rocks."
"You gotta problem with rocks?" came a slow bass voice. Avon looked
over the shoulder he'd been tapped on, at a creature with muscles like
granite, fists like stones, and well-- completely metamorphic. The
creature continued. "You better not, or else rocks could have a problem
wit' you." Three other trolls came to back the first one up.
Avon gave his 'peacable' smile, the one he used when he wanted people to
think of him as harmless. "I just don't like landing on rocks. I'm
always afraid I'll hurt them."
The trolls thought about that. It was strange thing for a human to say,
but on the other hand, they were, in fact, generally peaceful farmers,
plowing the shale to fill the mineral-basket of Ankh-Morpork's sizable
troll population.
Cally stretched out a hand in the silence. "Could one of you spare the
time to act as a guide for us? We are strangers in your land. Of course,
we would be willing to compensate you for your time."
(someone, next?)
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:25:32 EST
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
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Pat P. suggested that if we opened these up we'd find:
>Tarrant - grape bubble gum
>Soolin - crushed diamonds
>Travis - black goo squirming with hard shelled beetles
>Servalan - sharp-edged sequins
and Penny Dreadful said:
Last night I had a dream based on this posting. Just thought you'd like
to know the power of your creative vision. Or maybe this says more about
*me*... >>
Very interesting! Please, can we have more details on the dream?
Gail
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:05:40 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] hodge podge
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Julia Jones wrote:
re: Avon
> On the other hand, I liked him when I was a child *because* he was such
> a bastard. ...
> Besides, being a horrible child, I loved the idea of being able to
> behave like that and get away with it.
{snort!}
And do you still get away with it?
this from the Round Robin story:
> ... Near the edge of the galaxy, where stars are
> scattered further apart than Avon's acts of kindness,
ha ha - nice black-hearted analogy
Penny wrote:
re: >What would you find if you opened up the Blakes7 crew? I postulate:
>>Tarrant - grape bubble gum
>>Soolin - crushed diamonds
>>Travis - black goo squirming with hard shelled beetles
>>Servalan - sharp-edged sequins
>Last night I had a dream based on this posting...
Well??? Are you going to tell us or just tease us?
Pat P
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:16:02 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
cc: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Sheelagh's tapes
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Sheelagh Wells has just told me who's going to be on her new tape that's being
recorded on Sunday.
'Solstice' will feature two of the directors who worked on Blake's 7. Pennant
Roberts directed early episodes including Spacefall, Time Squad (which was the
very first episode to be filmed), Mission to Destiny and Bounty. Mary Ridge
directed for the first time in 'Terminal' but was to return for Rescue and Power
(and I'm really interested in hearing her talk about this episode as I've often
wondered how she felt about the script and what influence she had on the way it
was presented). She was landed with Animals (I doubt anyone could have done
much to rescue that episode except Jan Chapell) , Headhunter and directed the
very last episode, Blake.
Paul Darrow and Gareth Thomas will be there as usual to give their own unique
perspective on events.
The tape should be available in March. All orders recieved by Sheelagh before
20 March will be entered in a prize draw for a mystery prize. (Knowing
Sheelagh and her wide-ranging connections with the series, I'd expect it to be
an interesting prize.)
The price is 8.25 pounds or $15 including P+P. All cheques should be made
payable to Sheelagh J. Wells (she can take dollar cheques) The address is 20A
New Road, Brentford, Middlesex, TW8 0NX, United Kingdom.
Incidentally, if you've enjoyed the tapes, why not write to Sheelagh and say
what you enjoyed most and what you'd like to see in future tapes if she does
another one. She likes to get feedback.
For those of you who haven't heard any of Sheelagh's tapes, they really are a
'must buy'. Sheelagh worked as a make-up artist on Blake's 7 and got to know
virtually everyone involved with the series. She and her husband Joe Nazzaro
wrote 'Blake's 7: The Inside Story' which is the only decent book that's ever
been written about the making of the series. (Adrian Rigglesford did one a few
years before that was absolutely dire.)
The tapes are not just informative, telling you all sorts of things that you
didn't know about the making of the series, they are also hilarious. I still
remember listening to the first one on my walkman, walking down the road, and
bursting into laughter. Put Paul and Gareth into the same room and you can't
help getting jokes and anecdotes flying loose. All the tapes have a relaxed,
informal feel to them, as though you're in the middle of a group of old friends.
And the voices. Ah, I could listen to those voices for ages.
I think all five earlier tapes are still available, though Sheelagh's low
in stock for one or two of them. They are all the same price and are available
from Sheelagh.
More details on all Sheelagh's tapes, including reviews, who's on each tape, and
the sleeve photos, can be found on my web page under 'merchandise'.
Judith
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Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:20:37 +1100
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Refractions on the Net
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Hi folks!
I have been web-page updating with a vengeance; the Refractions page
http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat/refract.htm
has a new look and a new organisation.
And I have been tweaking my other pages too, including the Enarrare'
page, which has info on the upcoming Enarrare #14.
http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat/enarrare/enarrare.htm
But, most importantly of all, I have put Refractions #1 up on the net.
You can now download it in PDF (Acrobat) format. (check out the
Refractions page). And before I get a storm of complaints about how
horrible PDF format is, how people can't read it because the type is
too small, and how they have to go up and down for double-columned
pages (which Refractions is), I have to tell you that I spent a great
deal of time tuning the PDF files so that all the stories are
*articles*, so you just click and it will follow the columns
automatically, filling the window at the optimal size. Okay? And
this lot of PDF files is smaller than the lot I did for Refractions
#2, because I did all the titles as WordArt, and didn't embed any
fonts at all. So instead of being 4.7 Meg altogether, it's 1.5 Meg
altogether. Okay?
(Hmmm, why should I feel defensive about something which is a *favour*
to everybody? Probably because of the reaction I got last time.)
So, folks, give me some positive feedback, huh?
Kathryn
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Sarkoff: You'd sell your grandmother, wouldn't you?
Tarvin: I did.
She was going to sell me, I got in first.
(Blake's 7: Bounty [A11])
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 00:01:54 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Flat Robin continues...
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In message <36BB8438.26F0@jps.net>, Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
writes
>There weren't many rock quarries around Ankh-Morpork, but they had
>landed in one. What none of the rebels had ever done was translate the
>System's language throughoughly, or they would know that the default
>setting of the teleport was always 'rock quarry'. The Liberator had been
>designed to do geological surveys and that seemed the most efficient
>way.
ROFLMAO
This has to be the most plausible explanation I've seen for that
particular aspect of their adventures...
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:33:32 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] hodge podge
Message-ID: <acvihLA8KFv2EwLa@jajones.demon.co.uk>
In message <36BBB184.6FC8@geocities.com>, Pat Patera
<pussnboots@geocities.com> writes
>> Besides, being a horrible child, I loved the idea of being able to
>> behave like that and get away with it.
>
>{snort!}
>And do you still get away with it?
I never did get away with it - which was why it was so nice to see
someone who did :-)
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 09:21:15 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: My Dream
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>>>Tarrant - grape bubble gum
>>>Soolin - crushed diamonds
>>>Travis - black goo squirming with hard shelled beetles
>>>Servalan - sharp-edged sequins
>
>>Last night I had a dream based on this posting...
And Pat P. and Gail demanded details.
What, you expect me to just hand you the keys to the metaphorical
Freudian car? Just up and confess my deepest darkest -- what am I
saying? This *is* the internet...
There wasn't anything you could call a storyline, it was basically just
a sensory reiteration of the lines quoted above: I cut open the
individuals mentioned -- they had rubbery bloodless surfaces like
Stretch Armstrong and weren't put out by being dissected -- and found
basically the substances mentioned inside. The two women were filled
with something like smashed car-window but very white and bright,
Tarrant was filled (a la Stretch Armstrong again -- hmmmm) with sticky
sweet atomic-purple artificially grape-scented gunk, and Travis was
filled with big crunchy black cockroaches. I also cut open Cally but I
can't remember what I found.
--Penny "Now, Where's That Inflatable Sheep?" Dreadful
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:35:01 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Blake
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I was just working on the plot for a story, when something struck me.
Throughout the entire first season, Blake makes no attempt to gain allies. He
would apear to have no political ambitions at all. The only exception is
'Bounty' and he goes after Sarkoff specifically because he discovers that
Sarkoff had been set up and the Federation planned to use him. Blake was acting
more to aid Lindor than in his own interests.
Why?
Allies and political footwork would have seemed an obvious move for him.
Usually I attribute it to bad script-writing, but today it struck me that the
original child-molesting charge against him could be a good enough reason on its
own. Blake must have known that many potential allies would be put off by hte
charge. No matter how much they might suspect that he had been framed, the
trial was very convincing (especially if they broadcast the evidence given by
the children) and mud of that kind always sticks.
Alta Morag knew what she was doing when she picked that crime to frame him with.
Although Blake makes the occasional move to gain allies second season, such as
in Horizon, he never tries politics until Voice From the Past. It is only when
offered the chance to have the charges against him proved to be false that he
becomes willing to join in a political attempt to defeat the Federation.
Judith
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26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:12:54 +0100
From: Murray Smith <mjsmith@tcd.ie>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake
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>Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:11:28 +0100
>To: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
>From: Murray Smith <mjsmith@tcd.ie>
>Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake
>Cc:
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>Dear Judith,
>
> I asked a similar question in the recent issue of Horizon's
>newsletter. You're prefectly right in that gaining allies would have been
>'an obvious move' for him. I thought that something along the lines of the
>Rebel Alliance of the 'Star Wars' films should have emerged. Various rebel
>groups pool their resources, and thrash out an agreed political manifesto,
>so as to better fight the Federation. Otherwise, it would have been easy
>for the Federation to claim that the rebels were _only_ interested in
>destruction and terrorism.
> I agree that the child molesting charge would have been a
>motivating factor. As you said, the trial was very convincing. What is
>very interesting is that I don't believe that this aspect of Blake has
>been dealt with in fan fiction. I have read no stories that have Blake
>being abused and/or attacked by people who believed that he did molest
>those children. It would have been easy to use true stories of convicted
>paedophiles and child abusers having serious problems with neighbours once
>they are released from prison.
> I can also see potential allies being put off by the fact that he
>has a crew of criminals (except Cally), who certainly were not victims of
>a miscarriage of justice.
>
> Murray Smith
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:21:50 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake
Message-ID: <cyLDqeAuJLv2EwIW@jajones.demon.co.uk>
In message <l03110703b2e2287d8836@[134.226.96.44]>, Murray Smith
<mjsmith@tcd.ie> writes
>I have read no stories that have Blake
>>being abused and/or attacked by people who believed that he did molest
>>those children. It would have been easy to use true stories of convicted
>>paedophiles and child abusers having serious problems with neighbours once
>>they are released from prison.
I can think of several, often involving the children themselves. For
example, part of the Hellhound sequence deals with this. It's mentioned
peripherally in a number of h/c and adult stories.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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