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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 52
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
Re: [B7L] Limericks, Continued
[B7L] B7- new book?
Re: [B7L] Limericks, Continued
[B7L] Limericks
Re: [B7L] B7- new book?
Re: [B7L] B7- new book?
Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
Re: [B7L] Limericks
[B7L] More stories for me to read
Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
[B7L] Re New Book
Re: [B7L] B7- new book?
RE: [B7L] Flat Robin continues...
Re: [B7L] B7- new book?
[B7L]
[B7L] B7 last posting
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:35:00 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
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Pat Patera wrote:
> > Interestingly, I've only heard men say they dislike him.
> Perhaps they find him a threat, all decked out in black leather, studded
> with hormones and drenched in charisma. We often dislike those we fear
> or envy.
Or they are simply immune to the hormones and charisma. And yes, I think
there is the 'threat' factor. Avon was always competitive to be "alpha
male" of the group (and I don't mean that in a Feddy grades sense).
Challenging Blake regularly, keeping Vila in his place (although quietly
enjoying it whenever Vila _did_ get uppity). The men know that if they
knew Avon, he would act the same-- sniping at them verbally,
criticising, etc. Whereas Avon goes pretty easy on his female
colleagues. It's the testosterone facter,' guys gotta jostle each other,
but can get along with women'. (not always true of course, Vila's so
loveable, in part, because he doesn't try to be top dog). So men may see
Avon as a competitor, and dislike him on those grounds.
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:54:11 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Limericks, Continued
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Penny Dreadful wrote:
>
> (What's really irksome is I can't think of anything that rhymes with
> 'Travis' except 'myasthaenia gravis', which I haven't been able to work
> into a limerick...yet...)
*hem*
A Feddie named Travis, demanded
Blake's followers killed and disbanded.
Blake shot him twice,
The results, pretty nice,
Made Travis just one hairy-handed.
*snicker*
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:46:07 -0000
From: "Debra Collard" <Debra@whisson1.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "B7L" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] B7- new book?
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I was browsing the on line bookshops and came across a 'new' (to me anyway)
B7 book entitled 'History and Critical Anaylsis of Blakes 7 the 1978-81
British.....'
It is apparently to be published in the US in August 1999 at a sterling
equivalent of £34.65
Debra
The bookshop I was bowsing is at http://www.bookshop.co.uk
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:36:11 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Limericks, Continued
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Avona pruriently penned:
>Made Travis just one hairy-handed.
Ahaha! All right, you gutter-minded lyricists, go peddle your filth on
The Naughty List and leave us mature high-minded types to talk politics
and philosophy...oh, wait a minute, I'm *one* of the gutter-minded
lyricists. Well in that case,
A comely young rebel named Jenna
Used plenty of bleach but no henna
To try and catch Blake
But she saw her mistake
When she saw the way he looked at Zen -- ah...
(All together now):
Hooray for the Federation!
Birth of a (Terry) Nation!
Their terrible aim
Keeps us in the game
Till the day of our our cancellation!
--Penny "Shakes-Beer" Dreadful
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:43:08 +1100 (EST)
From: kat@welkin.apana.org.au (Kathryn Andersen)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se (Blake's 7 list)
Subject: [B7L] Limericks
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Okay, I can't resist.
There was a fine rebel called Roj Blake
Who once made a terrible mis-take
Avon he decieved
And successfully peeved
So he died at the hand of a fruitcake.
(not that I think Avon was a fruitcake really, it just made a good
rhyme.)
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:20:33 -0000
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "B7L" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7- new book?
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Debra said:
>> I was browsing the on line bookshops and came across a 'new' (to me
anyway)
B7 book entitled 'History and Critical Anaylsis of Blakes 7 the 1978-81
British.....'<<
This sounds interesting, does anyone else know anything about it? Did you
notice the author Debra?
£35 is a fair amount of dosh though isn't it? We'll have to make sure
someone gets it and reviews it when it comes out.
Alison
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:43:13 EST
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
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Subject: Re: [B7L] B7- new book?
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More specifically, at:
http://www.bookshop.co.uk/ser/serdsp.asp?shop=1&isbn=0786406003&DB=220
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:43:24 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
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In message <36B9E02A.5F36@geocities.com>, Pat Patera
<pussnboots@geocities.com> writes
>> But Avon is "a bratty whiner", "a arrogant prick", etc.
>And many list members have remarked that as children, they didn't like
>this character.
On the other hand, I liked him when I was a child *because* he was such
a bastard. I couldn't understand why Blake didn't toss him off the ship
- but it made for such fascinating interactions (and get your minds out
of the gutter, I'm talking about when I wasn't old enough to notice such
things).
Besides, being a horrible child, I loved the idea of being able to
behave like that and get away with it.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:39:56 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Limericks
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In message <36B8C490.1634@jps.net>, Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
writes
>(would these be great fanzine-fillers or what?)
Yes.
Lots of zines out there looking for fillers. The Other List has a zine
of its very own, edited by yours truly. If you don't mind being seen in
the company of smut...
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:53:19 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] More stories for me to read
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Just a quick note of thanks for Judith.
I spotted the link in Judith's Online Fiction section to Francis
Teagle's site, and I printed off the stories by Vega. I must confess
that I've not read them yet (I've a two hour train journey this evening,
let alone the weekend and a two hour train journey back to Sydney on
Sunday, so I've plenty of time <smile>), but I'm ready to take Judith's
word that Vega captures Jenna's character quite well. Thanks again.
Regards
Joanne
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:08:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: Iain Coleman <ijc@bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Helen Krummenacker wrote:
> Pat Patera wrote:
>
> > > Interestingly, I've only heard men say they dislike him.
> > Perhaps they find him a threat, all decked out in black leather, studded
> > with hormones and drenched in charisma. We often dislike those we fear
> > or envy.
> Or they are simply immune to the hormones and charisma.
That's probably part of it.
And yes, I think
> there is the 'threat' factor. Avon was always competitive to be "alpha
> male" of the group (and I don't mean that in a Feddy grades sense).
> Challenging Blake regularly, keeping Vila in his place (although quietly
> enjoying it whenever Vila _did_ get uppity). The men know that if they
> knew Avon, he would act the same-- sniping at them verbally,
> criticising, etc.
That's not a "threat factor", that's a "really getting on your tits
factor".
Avon isn't annoying when he's being competitive so much as when he's
sitting on the sidelines sneering. At such times he reminds me of a friend
of mine who would sometimes annoy me with his habit of being extremely
wise after the event and criticising other people's plans in a rather
patronising fashion while not having the guts to put his own ideas on the
line. There's nothing worse, when you're trying to get something done,
than unconstructive criticism.
Avon is far less annoying after Blake has left, when he finally has to put
up or shut up.
Whereas Avon goes pretty easy on his female
> colleagues. It's the testosterone facter,' guys gotta jostle each other,
> but can get along with women'. (not always true of course, Vila's so
> loveable, in part, because he doesn't try to be top dog). So men may see
> Avon as a competitor, and dislike him on those grounds.
Naah, I'm far too egotistical to dislike competitors.
Iain
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:11:01 -0000
From: "Debra Collard" <Debra@whisson1.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "B7L" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re New Book
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>This sounds interesting, does anyone else know anything about it? Did you
notice the author Debra?
>£35 is a fair amount of dosh though isn't it? We'll have to make sure
someone gets it and reviews it when it comes out.
The author is John kenneth Muir and it is published by McFarland and Co
Debra
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:17:55 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
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The price of the book suggested small print run and possibly an academic
market to me. Further surfing found another book by John Kenneth Muir:
Wes Craven: The Art of Horror
and this information about McFarland:
<<McFarland & Company, Inc., Publishers was founded in 1979 by Robert
Franklin. The company is now one of the leading publishers of scholarly and
reference books in the United States, with nearly one thousand titles in
print. McFarland publishes 140 new titles each year, many of which have
received awards as outstanding reference or academic titles.
McFarland is recognized for its serious works in a variety of fields,
including general reference, performing arts, sports (particularly baseball),
womens studies, librarianship, literature, Civil War, history and
international studies. We are also the publishers of two acclaimed journals:
American Literary Realism and the Journal of Information Ethics.>>
The B7 book didn't come up in a search of their on-line catalogue, but they
might not list books that are still months away from publication.
I think I'll try to get the Wes Craven book by Muir (via the library) to get
an idea of his style, approach to subject matter, etc.
Carol Mc
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:58:31 +0100
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: RE: [B7L] Flat Robin continues...
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And here's installment number four. Where are those other enthousiasts who
liked the idea? Calle?
> >
> > "Vila, why did you fire the nuetron blasters?"
> >
> > "I didn't like the way it was looking at us."
>
Avon, already dressed in his "landing-party" clothes, looked at him. "If you
fired the blasters every time you felt that way, we'd never get to meet
anybody."
Cally and Blake both shot Vila an exasperated look, before joining Avon in
the teleporter. Jenna walked with them to operate it, ignoring Vila's
grumbling.
After some deliberation they'd chosen to go down near a city that had a
river running through it. Or at least, they thought it was a river.
On some of the readings they'd taken, it appeared to be solid. They'd chosen
the city, because there was a fair amount of traffic going in and out of it,
which meant that strangers probably wouldn't attract much notice there.
"All right", said Blake, "We'll stay down for two hours, no more." He
ignored Avon's annoyed look with habitual ease. Jenna grinned, waited for
all of them to be ready, and sent them on their way. She leaned back with a
sigh and settled in for a wait.
Meanwhile, on the flight deck, Vila had once again poured himself some soma,
still muttering about the evil look that turtle had had in its eye. Suddenly
he saw something move to his left. He took a good look at what it was,
squeezed his eyes shut, took another look and then looked at his glass. Then
he looked to his left again.
Yep, there it was, small and looking decidedly bony. Of course, that was not
unusual for the skeleton of a rat. Its presence on the flight deck, however,
was unusual. The presence of a very small scythe, clutched in its front
paws, was somewhat strange. And the fact that it seemed to move under its
own power was utterly impossible.
Yet that's wat it was doing, taking small steps as it was examining whatever
caught its interest on the flight deck. Vila wondered why he didn't suddenly
hold his breath as the rat skeleton looked at him, then realised that that
was because he'd been holding it ever since he first saw it. He decided to
try breathing again. It cleared up his dizziness quite nicely.
He liked the look of the rat even less than he'd liked that turtle. He felt
pretty much the same way he'd have felt if he'd run into the overly
enthousiastic younger brother of someone he'd been trying to avoid seeing
for years. Such younger brothers had an annoying habit of slapping your
shoulders, enquiring loudly about where you'd been all this time and then
calling at someone behind you: "Hey, [insert name of person to be avoided
here], look who I just ran into!" Vile was suddenly quite sure that he did
not want to meet the older brother or equivalent thereof, of a small rat
skeleton.
The death of rats looked at someone behind Vila. It said, very loudly,
"squeek!". Vila started trembling as he heard a bony footstep behind him,
and a very, very cold voice said: "YES?".
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:46:59 +0200
From: "422ami" <422ami@nt52.parliament.bg>
To: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>,
"B7L" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7- new book?
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Alison asked:
<This sounds interesting, does anyone else know anything about it? Did you
notice the author Debra?>
As I checked the title too, I can answer: "History and Critical Analysis of
"Blakes 7", the 1978-81 British" will be available in August. There will be
some discount, so the book becomes not _that_ expensive.
The author is John Kenneth Muir (I've never heard anything about him. Does
any other does?). He also have been written the books "Exploring "Space
1999" : An Episode Guide and Complete History of the Mid" and "Unearthing
"Battlestar Galactica" : An Episode Guide and Analysis of the" or, at
least, this is, what I found in the Net.
Best wishes: Hellen
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:53:57 -0000
From: "Debra Collard" <Debra@whisson1.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "B7L" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L]
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Julia Jones said>
On the other hand, I liked him when I was a child *because* he was such
a bastard. I couldn't understand why Blake didn't toss him off the ship
- but it made for such fascinating interactions (and get your minds out
of the gutter, I'm talking about when I wasn't old enough to notice such
things).
My three young children(all male) watch the videos with me and they all like
Avon best, mind you the eldest who is 10 has started to notice Jenna! Also,
when they saw Guards Guards they all recognised PD instantly.
Debra
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:55:36 -0000
From: "Debra Collard" <Debra@whisson1.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "B7L" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] B7 last posting
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I didn't mean to be impolite and send the last post without a subject
heading, I pushed the wrong button, sorry.
Debra
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