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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 50
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Videos
Re: [B7L] sundry
Re: [B7L] sundry
Re: [B7L] Round robin idea...
Re: [B7L] Cock-up
RE: [B7L] Round robin begins...
Re: [B7L] Cock-up
Re: [B7L] Cock-up
[B7L] Common People
Re: [B7L] Cock-up
Re: [B7L] Common People
Re: [B7L] Common People
Re: [B7L] sundry
[B7L] Stiffies
Re: [B7L] sundry
Re: Re [B7L] Cock-up
re [B7L] Die, Versification
Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
[B7L] HEAT
Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:15:00 -0000
From: "Debra Collard" <Debra@whisson1.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "B7L" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Videos
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I just visited a local music shop to find that they have remaindered their
B7 videos and are selling them off at £5.99 (the cheapest I had found
locally so far was £6.99).
I bought two that had been missing from my collection, Orac/Redemption and
Shadow/Weapon, but they had lots more.
If anyone on the list is missing any to make up a full set of the ones
issued so far, I am happy to check whether they carry it and I can even buy
it on your behalf and bring it to Redemption if you wish.
Debra
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:23:35 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] sundry
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First of all, Helen: thank you so much, I now have a full proper song to my
name. What a shame that only the last line has any bearing on reality.
Jenni wrote:
<<There's an episode of The Young Ones where Rik tries to make up a poem
about Neil, after murdering him. As I recall it's something like "Oh, Neil,
Neil, orange peel">>
I am in fact known as 'Orange Peel' at work, a harmless nickname compared to
some of the others floating around (Gumby, Frank the Wank etc)
Jacqueline:
<<Ps.: I didn't understand that reference and now I'm darned curious>>
It's from 'Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters', Robert Calvert's concept
album about the Luftwaffe's disastrous endeavours with the F104. Musically
it's uninteresting unless you're a Hawkwind junkie, but the interludes
between the tracks are brilliant. ("Ground control to pilot - ready for
last-minute cockpit check ... valium - ten milligrams..."). A searing and
darkly humorous assault on the military mentality.
And finally, Calle wrote:
<<> And for my next post, I'll treat you all to my Ars Magica stats for
Cally's
> moon disc.
Yes? I'm waiting.>>
Sorry about that. I've had to shelve the moondisc - I'm now engrossed in
the Phoenix Command stats for Ensor's fish. A task made all the harder for
my not actually possessing the Phoenix Command rules...
Neil
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 11:26:25 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil
Your wit is too quick to steal
(Vila tried).
Preoccupied,
Avon would like to deal.
(like those rhymes any better?)
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:44:27 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Round robin idea...
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In message <36B6456C.7C68@jps.net>, Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
writes
>Well, now, I was thinking of it being on the _Lysator_ list. Which is
>why I was asking if people here want to participate. But I can
>understand copyright concerns and there may be good reasons other than
>what you mentioned for us _not_ to...
I was just concerned that someone might think it a wonderful idea to
share a crossover with the Discworld group, and send a copy to afp. I'm
not the only person who's a member of both, although I'm certainly the
one with the biggest mouth.
Pterry is pretty laid back about fan activities that don't involve
trying to make money, which includes fanfic, but he doesn't want the
fanfic anywhere where he might be accused of having seen it and swiped
it. He gets pretty uncomfortable even with people speculating on afp
about what they'd like to see in a book, for the same reason. Severe
irony has been employed on occasion.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:45:15 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Cock-up
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>There once was an Auron named Cally.
>With Gan she was reasonably pally.
>Poor Gan she ignored,
[snip]
>No doubt I'll regret kicking this one off.
>Neil
A rhyme-seeker is our Neil.
He always writes with great zeal.
But Vila will be amused,
'Cause he's made Gan confused
And Cally too, or so I feel.
Regards
Writing doggerel again
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:59:31 +0100
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: RE: [B7L] Round robin begins...
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(both the list father and Avona have pretty much told me to put my money (or
story) where my mouth is, so here goes:<crosses fingers>)
<<Vila stared at it in wonder. "What kind of creature does its shell
> protect it from?">>
>
"Giant french chefs, maybe", Avon snapped. "I don't care what Cally says,
turtles and elephants do not go flying around the universe. This must be
Orac's idea of a joke. It wouldn't be the first time he projected something
on the screen."
"True enough" said Blake. "Orac, what is the meaning of this?"
"If you are referring to Avon's misconception that this is a joke, I must
correct you". Orac's voice sounded as nerve grating as ever. "What you see
on the screen is a correct representation of events."
"It's not exactly like anything we've seen before" said Jenna, looking at
the screen with a mixture of scepticism and wonder. "I wonder if there's
life on that disk. Zen, scan that Pl..., Umm, that object ahead, please."
Zen needed only a few seconds: "Breathable atmosphere and normal
gravitation" it reported.
Vila looked alarmed. "I hope you don't expect me to go down there", he said.
Blake frowned. "We're on our way to Star One now. Don't start with me, Avon,
looking at this...., this thing for a few minutes is fine, but we have no
time to go exploring."
"Come on, Blake", said Avon, impatient as ever, "Star One is not going to
blow up before we get there. This, on the other hand, looks like it may go
swimming off for parts unknown at any time. A few hours won't hurt any more
than a few minutes."
Blake looked at Avon for a few seconds, and decided that giving in on this
one wouldn't hurt them. It might even put Avon in a good mood for when he
really wanted him to do something. "All right", he said, "we can have a
quick look. But only a quick look. Two hours, no more."
Avon and Cally nodded, which pretty much told Blake who were going with him
on that particular trip.
Next, please...
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:05:06 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Cock-up
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Joanne MacQueen wrote:
>
> >There once was an Auron named Cally.
> >With Gan she was reasonably pally.
> >Poor Gan she ignored,
> [snip]
> >No doubt I'll regret kicking this one off.
> >Neil
>
> A rhyme-seeker is our Neil.
> He always writes with great zeal.
> But Vila will be amused,
> 'Cause he's made Gan confused
> And Cally too, or so I feel.
An aspiring poet, our Neil,
Dreams up limericks full of appeal.
So he made one mistake,
Writing "Gan", meaning Blake--
I don't think that was such a big deal.
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:51:45 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
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>So he made one mistake,
>Writing "Gan", meaning Blake--
>I don't think that was such a big deal.
No, true. But was it Blake, though, that he meant? It could've been
Jenna, I suppose. Neil? Well, was it Blake? I know both Blake _and_ Gan
are burly and curly <smile>...
Regards
Joanne
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:55:56 PST
From: "Edith Spencer" <sueno45@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Common People
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To all,
Hmmm... to add to what Neil said, I went to College with people who not
terribly bright nor intellectual; they were there to study fo rtests, to
get the degree and to join a company. However, some of the farmers I
worked with in Wisconsin ( I have a degree in Biochem, and was
interested in Ag science)were some of the most witty, thoughtful and
introspective people I ever met- unafraid to talk about the meanings of
life in all their facets. And they did not go to college.
Which brings me to B7 (phew!) Surely not all of the peoplen who lived
in the domes stayed drugged forever. i was think that it would an ever
increasing amount of whatever to keep people placid. Would this involve:
Media manipulation
Diet
water supply
contraceptives
Or a combo of all three?
Edith
"It's not what you think"
"Oh? I'm disappointed."
Urs and LC, Ashes to Ashes
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:39:55 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Joanne MacQueen <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
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Joanne MacQueen wrote:
>
> >So he made one mistake,
> >Writing "Gan", meaning Blake--
> >I don't think that was such a big deal.
>
> No, true. But was it Blake, though, that he meant? It could've been
> Jenna, I suppose. Neil? Well, was it Blake? I know both Blake _and_ Gan
> are burly and curly <smile>...
Scansion. And the behaviors-- Cally and Jenna didn't seem close, so you
wouldn't define them as pally. But scansion is the main indicator.
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:49:19 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People
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To those who spoke of the high intelligence among 'common people'.
Absolutely. I went to college, then dropped out from a combination of
health problems and the obvious fact that I could learn more on my own
than mandatory attendence at dumbed-down lectures. My parents both got
degrees, but my mother's father was a carpenter, cowboy, and field hand
as work was available. And he knew a great deal of Shakespeare by heart.
So I view a degree not as a symbol of intellect but a willingness to do
things the established way.
When I said intelligent people tend to spend time with intelligent
people, I didn't necessarily mean by dint of their place in society. I
work in an office and spend very little time socializing with anyone
there, unless I respect their intelligence. Often it is the ones who are
'just temps' (and therefore at the bottom of status) who draw me to them
with their quick wit or unusual fields of knowlege. On the other hand, I
actually helped a woman much higher up in the office feeding chain get
her Masters, because she'd never have passed algebra on her own. And
there's a chap who's been working with us-- he was a doctor in Mexico
and is studying to get back into medicine in the States-- and I am
frightened to think that anyone as slow and sloppy in his work may one
day have people's health in his hands.
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:00:40 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Neil Faulkner wrote:
>
> I find this interesting, because although I've got a degree I've
> deliberately chosen to 'slum it' down on the factory floor. I went for
> years believing all the people who told me factory work was beneath me, but
> when I started temping I discovered that... I _like_ factories. I like
> being turned into a mindless robot for 12 hours at a stretch. I like the
> noise and the sweat and the grime. On a good night I can even handle the
> risk of maiming myself on an under-maintained piece of machinery. ...
I truly cannot determine whether this is satirical or not, cuz the
following sentences seem so serious.
>
Personally, after working a 2 day stint taking inventory in a warehouse,
I developed a new respect for people who do that *every damn day!* I
also came to better understand why drug testing is becoming so common
prior to (and spot checks during!) employment these days. That kind of
work is stultifyingly boring - yet requires the utmost accuracy. Such an
oxymoron! This does not mean I approve of drug testing: I find it
despicable and demeaning: equal to considering one guilty until proven
innocent.
> Maybe charisma is a
> double-edged quality, one that tends to polarise reactions?
Please explain. Do you mean people either loved or hated him?
> If so, I reckon it's a good bet that Blake had it.
Only Avon developed a love hate relationship with Blake. All the others
seemed to like him A-OK.
erm- Except Travis, who hated him.
> Am I to take it nobody's familiar with the reference with sewing up the sky
> with gleaming needles?
>
I thought you were just being poetic. Please explain the metaphor and
most importantly, its relationship to Blakes 7
Pat P
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:30:19 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Helen Krummenacker wrote:
> Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil
> Your wit is too quick to steal
> (Vila tried).
> Preoccupied,
> Avon would like to deal.
>
Avona, Avona, Avona
Neil will toss all these poets to Pirahanna
You'll run and you'll hide
On your wild outlaw ride
And wind up in remote Tijuana
Pat P
awk! Stop me before I rhyme some more!!!
There once was an Auron named Cally
Who oft liked to dilly and dally
With Blake she was bad,
With Avon so sad,
But with Vila she'd shilly and shally
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 99 05:34:00 GMT
From: s.thompson8@genie.com
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Subject: [B7L] Stiffies
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I just posted to the Space City list information on all the B7 zines,
stories, poems, and art that are eligible to be nominated for the 1998
Stiffies (Slash Talent In Fandom awards). If there are any slashfen here
who aren't also on SC, e-mail me privately and I'll cc you.
Sarah T.
s.thompson8@genie.com
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:43:51 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [B7L] sundry
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>There once was an Auron named Cally
>Who oft liked to dilly and dally
>With Blake she was bad,
>With Avon so sad,
>But with Vila she'd shilly and shally
PAT!!!!!! <whimper>
Tramila
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:30:09 EST
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Neil wrote:
<< There once was an Auron named Cally.
With Gan she was reasonably pally.
Poor Gan she ignored,
And Vila deplored...
...But Avon was right up her alley.>>
I love limericks! Thanks, Neil. Now here's one for you:
There once was a pirate named Neil
Who tried to cut Avon a deal.
Though he offered him gold
To sell Blake out cold,
Cally laughed and said, "Neil, be real."
They're right. Neil rhymes with lots of cool things!
Gail
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:18:36 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: re [B7L] Die, Versification
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To all of you noticed, yes I made a big mistake
In citing Gan not once but twice (the first time should be Blake).
But ere this thread gets out of hand and Calle grows hysterical,
I think it's time to draw a line beneath all things limerickal.
Though Gail - or VulcanXYZ - is right (She is no fool),
The many words that rhyme with Neil may be described as cool.
But words like 'fail' or 'pale' or 'snail', they tell a different story.
A shame that her own appellation snubs her bid for glory.
Oh, and I'm still grappling with Ensor's fish. Can anyone suggest a
suitable damage range for a pectoral fin attack?
Neil
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:36:37 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
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Pat wrote:
>I truly cannot determine whether this is satirical or not, cuz the
>following sentences seem so serious.
No satire, honest. I'd sooner be cutting out air ducts for Saab than
sitting in an office, or a classroom or a laboratory. At least on the shop
floor it's Us against Them, not every little prick out for himself. Last
night I got three fag breaks in as many hours, all of them without me even
asking for them. Solidarity. (NB: just in case any Americans are pondering
in entirely the wrong direction, 'fag' means cigarette).
>> Maybe charisma is a
>> double-edged quality, one that tends to polarise reactions?
>Please explain. Do you mean people either loved or hated him?
Pretty much, yeah.
>
>> If so, I reckon it's a good bet that Blake had it.
>Only Avon developed a love hate relationship with Blake. All the others
>seemed to like him A-OK.
>erm- Except Travis, who hated him.
I was actually thinking more of the way Blake polarises fans. Tarrant might
get bashed, but only Blake draws the heavy vitriol. Avon might be adored in
many quarters, but there doesn't seem to be any significant Avon-bashing
faction.
>> Am I to take it nobody's familiar with the reference with sewing up the
sky
>> with gleaming needles?
>I thought you were just being poetic. Please explain the metaphor and
>most importantly, its relationship to Blakes 7
Very very tenuous, I fear, but my copy of Captain Lockheed is on tape, and
on the other side of the cassette is an Electric Prunes album which contains
a track about a character called Doctor Do-Good, who as I recall was partly
the inspiration for Doctor Do-Right, the cybersurgeon who gave Gan his
limiter in my story 'A Casting of Swords'. Like I said - tenuous.
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:35:31 +0200
From: "422ami" <422ami@nt52.parliament.bg>
To: <pussnboots@geocities.com>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
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Neil Faulkner wrote:
> > Maybe charisma is a
> > double-edged quality, one that tends to polarise reactions?
And Pat <pussnboots@geocities.com> asked him for explanation, as follows:
> Please explain. Do you mean people either loved or hated him?...
> ...
> Only Avon developed a love hate relationship with Blake. All the others
> seemed to like him A-OK.
No! No! It seems to me, that charisma is much more social, public, than
private (between two people) phenomenon. This quality, I would rather say,
gift, which Blake possesses, can be seen as in Federation authority's zeal
to eliminate him, so in "common people"'s faith, that Blake is the one, who
would release them (In this instance I would quote the part of the
conversation between Bercol and Servalan - Ep. 1-6 "Seek-Locate-Destroy''):
"...My department has done all in its power to suppress information about
Blake and his actions -- there is a total blackout on all reports
concerning him -- but still the stories get out. They spread by word of
mouth, by whispers, by rumour; each time the story is told it is elaborated
upon. Any damage to the Federation is attributed to Blake. The smallest
incident is exaggerated out of all proportion until it becomes a major
event. Blake is becoming a legend. His name is a rallying call for
malcontents of all persuasions..."
Therefore, these, who hate Blake, hate him awfully, while these, who love
him, love him thoroughly. That is, what charisma does.
Seemingly, relationship between Blake and Avon is not based on Blake's
charismatic "skills", but on more pragmatical ("visualable") reasons. Here
I can quote Mr. Faulkner himself: "...Despite their differences of opinion,
Blake and Avon recognise each other as educated, intelligent men of shared
background. They can regard each other as social equals..."
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:57:15 -0000
From: "Julie Horner" <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] HEAT
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Circulated recently:
>AVON : THE PAUL DARROW SOCIETY
>LATEST NEWS - 25TH JANUARY 1999
>A new magazine will be out next week, and it covers such
things as CD's,
>videos, films and TV. Called 'HEAT' - Issue No 1 will have
an article about
>Paul - under TV Icons.
I have just seen Issue No 1 of this and it *doesn't* have an
article about Paul.
There is the first part of a regular feature called 'TV
Heroes', which is
a full page interview on the inside back page. However, this
week's
interview was with John Noakes. I guess they must have Paul
lined
up for a later issue.
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:01:13 +0200
From: "422ami" <422ami@nt52.parliament.bg>
To: "422ami" <422ami@nt52.parliament.bg>, <pussnboots@geocities.com>,
<blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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> From: 422ami <422ami@nt52.parliament.bg>
> To: pussnboots@geocities.com; blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
> Date: 03 Ôåâðóàðè 1999 ã. 14:35
>
> Neil Faulkner wrote:
> > > Maybe charisma is a
> > > double-edged quality, one that tends to polarise reactions?
>
> And Pat <pussnboots@geocities.com> asked him for explanation, as
follows:
> > Please explain. Do you mean people either loved or hated him?...
> > ...
> > Only Avon developed a love hate relationship with Blake. All the others
> > seemed to like him A-OK.
>
> No! No! It seems to me, that charisma is much more social, public, than
> private (between two people) phenomenon. This quality, I would rather
say,
> gift, which Blake possesses, can be seen as in Federation authority's
zeal
> to eliminate him, so in "common people"'s faith, that Blake is the one,
who
> would release them (In this instance I would quote the part of the
> conversation between Bercol and Servalan - Ep. 1-6
"Seek-Locate-Destroy''):
> "...My department has done all in its power to suppress information
about
> Blake and his actions -- there is a total blackout on all reports
> concerning him -- but still the stories get out. They spread by word of
> mouth, by whispers, by rumour; each time the story is told it is
elaborated
> upon. Any damage to the Federation is attributed to Blake. The smallest
> incident is exaggerated out of all proportion until it becomes a major
> event. Blake is becoming a legend. His name is a rallying call for
> malcontents of all persuasions..."
> Therefore, these, who hate Blake, hate him awfully, while these, who love
> him, love him thoroughly. That is, what charisma does.
>
> Seemingly, relationship between Blake and Avon is not based on Blake's
> charismatic "skills", but on more pragmatical ("visualable") reasons.
Here
> I can quote Mr. Faulkner himself: "...Despite their differences of
opinion,
> Blake and Avon recognise each other as educated, intelligent men of
shared
> background. They can regard each other as social equals..."
Regards: Hellen
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:34:16 +0000
From: Russ Massey <russ@wriding.demon.co.uk>
To: 422ami <422ami@nt52.parliament.bg>
Cc: pussnboots@geocities.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
Message-ID: <LwHWdDA4xGu2EwSD@wriding.demon.co.uk>
>Neil Faulkner wrote:
>> > Maybe charisma is a
>> > double-edged quality, one that tends to polarise reactions?
>
I wasn't really sure myself what charisma was until I went to a talk
given by Brian Blessed at a book signing a few years ago. The man is
absolutely magnetic, and if he had asked his audience to march on
Poland that very evening they would have been with him. It's so hard
to define the quality, but it boils down to - someone with charisma can
talk rubbish and you will never interrupt or disagree simply because
you are so impressed with how he says it.
--
Russ Massey
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