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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 46
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Fan Fiction
Re: [B7L] Re: Virus warning
Re: [B7L] Would there be any objections...?
Re: [B7L] Redemption
[B7L] More B7 stats
Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
Re: [B7L] Finally finished Afterlife
[B7L] Re: Virus warning
[B7L] Glynis Barber sighting...
Re: [B7L] Redemption
[B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife
[B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
Re: [B7L] Fan Fiction
Re: [B7L] Would there be any objections...?
Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
Re: [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife
Re: [B7L] [B7}: Virus warning
RE: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:49:42 -0000
From: "Peter Horrocks" <Peter@horrocksp.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Fan Fiction
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Hi ! I'm new to the Net and the list! I'm Marion and live in =
Shropshire.
I've been a B7 Fan for 21 years, and watch the B7 videos rather a lot. =
For me, they are a cure-all for everything -take 2 episodes and a cup of =
tea... (allthough how this works with Neil's description of B7 as =
containing "such a level of cynicism, futility and moral ambiguity, not =
to mention violence" is interesting - there are other things as well - =
rebellion for a start!)=20
But I haven't read any fan fiction yet. Don't know where to start. What =
is Slash? Should I buy it or avoid it? Is the fiction that has =
appeared in recent Horizon issues typical? I would appreciate some =
guidance here. Judith mentions something strange but interesting called =
"Renaissance", involving a chap I like, called Machiavelli. Don't =
believe all that is said about him, Neil, read his book "The Prince" and =
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Date: 29 Jan 1999 09:37:26 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes:
> can't we warn them kindly rather than angrily?
Unfortunately doing so doesn't seem to work. You can see the attitude
at work in Julies posting where she admits that she knows she's doing
wrong, but posts anyway just in case. A gentle note saying that no, it
was wrong this time too, isn't very likely to stop her the next time
she considers something "probably worth passing on".
I'll post more about this on the spin list.
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia! Where am I? Fnord? Oh, there.
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:00:35 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
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>Normally I don't write slash and
>haven't really been inclined to read it...But if there are no
>objections, I will write it for the subscribers of this list.
Come to the Dark Side, Avona!
--Darth Dreadful
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:10:54 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Judith said:
>So far, I think we have seven
>teddy bears and a sheep registered!
...and *that*, friends, is what *I* call a Good Time.
--Penny "Five Dollars, Father, Same As In Town" Dreadful
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:11:30 +0000
From: Russ Massey <russ@wriding.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] More B7 stats
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I've had a couple of interested responses so I'll continue with the stats
(you'll be disappointed to learn that Avon seems to have gone missing
:)
VILA RESTAL (158 points)
Strength 11
Dexterity 16
IQ 13
Health 10
Advantages:
Alertness (1 level)
Charisma (1 level)
Luck
Manual Dexterity (4 levels)
Resistance to mind alteration (5 levels)
Disadvantages:
Horrible Hangovers
Combat Paralysis
Edgy
Laziness
Odious Personal Habit - Pessimism
Social Stigma (Delta Grade)
Unluckiness (yes, you can have both luck and unluck!)
Weak Will (2 levels)
Quirks:
Congenial
Distractible
Drinks whenever the opportunity arises
Makes passes at any pretty girl
Staid
Skills:
Bard 13
Body Sense 13
Gunner 13
Mechanic (Locks) 15
Language (Anglic) 13
Survival (Urban) 12
Architecture 13
Criminology 11
Electronics (Force Shields) 12
Electronics (Security Systems) 18
Electronics (Sensors) 14
Mathematics 10 (An essential prequisite for some of his other skills)
Acting 13
Fast-Talk 13
Gambling 12
Merchant 13
Performance 14 (i.e. His ability as a showman)
Filch 18
Holdout 13
Lockpicking 23 (This phenomenal level allows him to open the hardest
locks very rapidly)
Pickpocket 13
Sleight of Hand 18
Stealth 14
Streetwise 12
Traps 16 (Actually a zero cost default from his other skills)
Roj Blake (174 Points)
Strength 12
Dexterity 12
IQ 14
Health 11
Advantages:
Extra Hit Points +2 (Makes him tough for his size)
Hard to Kill +2 (Means that wounds become more survivable)
Strong Will (3 Levels)
Disadvantages:
Fanaticism (I call 'em as I see 'em :)
Overconfidence
Sense of Duty (To all humanity)
Stubbornness
Reputation -2 to Federation Supporters
Quirks:
Congenial
Unsure of his memories
Skills:
Bard 15
Body Sense 9
Beam Weapons (Blaster) 14
Brawling 14
Language (Anglic) 15
First Aid 14
Tracking 12
Law (Federation) 12
Computer Programming 11
Electronics (Teleport) 14
Engineer (Structural) 12
History 13
Mathematics 12
Philosophy (Revolutionary) 12
Psychology 12
Administration 14
Diplomacy 17
Fast-Talk 15
Intimidation 12
Leadership 17
Politics 17
Savoire-Faire (Alpha Grade) 15
Strategy 14
Tactics 12
Demolition 13
Shadowing 12
--
Russ Massey
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:24:39 EST
From: AChevron@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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I'm enjoying the stats, Russ. Perhaps you can re-create Avon, inasmuch as
he's missing? I haven't played the GURPs system, but I have a number of the
books as reference material, since the game does lend itself to adjustment to
other systems. It would be interesting to see if there are enough GURPs fans
to perhaps put together an unofficial GURPs reference book. D. Rose
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Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:54:34 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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AChevron@aol.com writes:
> It would be interesting to see if there are enough GURPs fans to
> perhaps put together an unofficial GURPs reference book.
And if we can agree on the stats :-) At the moment, I feel that Russ
has given almost all of them too high attributes.
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia! Where am I? Fnord? Oh, there.
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:52:07 EST
From: AChevron@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
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In a message dated 99-01-29 07:57:30 EST, you write:
<< And if we can agree on the stats :-) At the moment, I feel that Russ
has given almost all of them too high attributes. >>
That would be a problem. I'm thinking the background source material would
be a bit less contriversial, though special skills and handicaps might be
difficult to iron out. If it turns out there's any real interest in this as a
project, folks can contact me via e-mail to see what we can work out, I
suppose. D. Rose
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:26:53 +0000
From: Russ Massey <russ@wriding.demon.co.uk>
To: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
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In message <usvhhq8cj9.fsf@sara.lysator.liu.se>, Calle Dybedahl
<calle@lysator.liu.se> writes
>AChevron@aol.com writes:
>
>> It would be interesting to see if there are enough GURPs fans to
>> perhaps put together an unofficial GURPs reference book.
>
>And if we can agree on the stats :-) At the moment, I feel that Russ
>has given almost all of them too high attributes.
>
Understandable. I based my characterisations on the heroic model
rather than the purely realistic one. I'm sure that Jan's real strength
is lower than that supposedly shown by Cally in combat.
--
Russ Massey
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:24:57 +0000
From: Russ Massey <russ@wriding.demon.co.uk>
To: AChevron@aol.com
Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
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In message <21323b8f.36b1a887@aol.com>, AChevron@aol.com
writes
> I'm enjoying the stats, Russ. Perhaps you can re-create Avon, inasmuch as
>he's missing? I haven't played the GURPs system, but I have a number of the
>books as reference material, since the game does lend itself to adjustment to
>other systems. It would be interesting to see if there are enough GURPs fans
>to perhaps put together an unofficial GURPs reference book. D. Rose
>
It should be possible. I'm at a loss to know what happened, since I
created all the characters on the GURPS Character Assistant
Software, and yet some of the files have disappeared. I may still have
my original notes and/or printouts knocking around though. Here's
the remaining two characters I still have handy stats on.
OLAG GAN (201 points)
Strength 17
Dexterity 11
IQ 10
Health 13
Advantages:
Common Sense
Composed
Extra Hit Points +2
Fearlessness (2 levels)
High Pain Threshold (as seen in Redemption among others)
Toughness (2 point)
Disadvantages:
Migraine
Pacifism - Cannot Kill (due to limiter)
Sense of Duty to friends and companions
Quirks:
Congenial
Dull
Humble
Skills:
Brawling 15
First Aid 11
Agronomy 11 (on the assumption that he was a farmer - debatable)
Intimidation 13
Streetwise 9
JENNA STANNIS (175.5 points)
Strength 11
Dexterity 13
IQ 13
Health 12
Advantages:
3D Spatial Sense (A great aid to space piloting)
Beautiful Appearance
Charisma (1 level)
Common Sense
Cool
Manual Dexterity (2 levels)
Reputation (as smuggler) +1 reaction from fellow outlaws
Strong will (1 level)
Disadvantages:
Jealously
Reputation (as smuggler) -2 reaction from law enforcement
Quirks:
Attracted to Blake
Cynical
Chauvinistic (? - I can't think where the justification for this came
from, unless it's meant to imply her anti-alien bias)
Skills:
Dancing 12
Body Sense 10
Free Fall 11 (I assume she must have some zero G experience)
Beam Weapons (Blaster) 14
Brawling 13
Gunner 13
Knife 12
First Aid 12
Navigation 11
Electronics Operations (Communications) 12
Electronics Operations (Sensors) 12
Freight Handling 11
Law (Commercial) 11
Astrogation 15
Astronomy 12
Acting 12
Carousing 11
Diplomacy 11
Fast-Talk 11
Intimidation 11
Leadership 13
Merchant 13
Savoire-Faire (Alpha Grade) 13
Sex Appeal 11
Tactics 11
Teaching 12
Interrogation 11
Stealth 12
Streetwise 13
Piloting (Large Spacecraft) 17
Piloting (Small Spacecraft) 15
Vacc Suit 12
--
Russ Massey
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:41:27 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
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Calle wrote:
>And if we can agree on the stats :-) At the moment, I feel that Russ
>has given almost all of them too high attributes.
Yup, I noticed too that the lowest attribute any of them got was an average
10. I'd have given Cally a Strength of 9 or maybe even 8. I also notice
that Cally and Servalan both top 200 points while the male characters Russ
has cited so far are in the mid-100s. But then his biases are skewed in
much the same direction as mine in some regards:)
I said around Xmas time I was thinking of dusting off my own system, and the
bad news is I have done so. Here's 'my' Cally, designed more or less within
the limitations of the character design rules though a bit more liberal with
the skills.
Attributes are rated from 5 through through to 9, 7 being average. Skills
are based on attribute scores, 7 representing a roughly 50% chance of basic
success.
Muscle: 6 - Toughness +1, Agility +1, Health +2
Brains 8 - Logic +1, Intuition +1, Planning +2 (the Planning trait gives a
bonus to Technical skills)
Speed - 7
Presence: 7 - Looks +1 (like I said, I'm biased), Confidence +1
Willpower: 9 - Endurance +2 (adds enormously toher survivability), Psi +2
Coordination: 7 - Reaction +2 (governs shooting and dodging)
Awareness: 7 - Tuning +2 (makes her hard to surprise)
Other advantages: Hard To Stun (a general combat survival advantage).
Skills (these are done on a skill tree system, three levels of
specialisation):
Brawling 6, Infighting 7
Gunhandling 7, Pistols 8, Liberator Handgun 9
Rifles 8
Technical 8, Radiotech 10, Communications 11
Supertech 10
Gymnastic 7, Dodge 9
Education 8, Sciences 9
Perception 7, Sixth Sense 9 (so not easy to take by surprise)
Furtive 9
Language/Terran 11 (taken to third level of specialisation, hence fluent in
general conversation)
Surgery 8, First Aid 9
Medicine 8, Pathology 9 (good at diagnosis, not so hot at treatment - but
that's what computers are for!)
Psionic ability- Projected Telepathy 12 (I'm going to rehash the psionics
rules so I'm not sure what this implies at the moment re distance, power
etc).
This makes her a professional level technician with good back-up expertise
in combat and medical skills. She should try and steer clear of the
hand-to-hand stuff, though.
(Shuold you be interested, skills are rolled on 2d6, rerolling any natural
6s, adding skill rating. A total of 15+ represents a basic success but
higher totals give better results).
Rivetting, I know:)
Neil
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:37:30 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Finally finished Afterlife
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On Fri 29 Jan, Reuben Herfindahl wrote:
> >> Next up: A Terrible Aspect....umm, on 2nd thought I think I'll just read
> >> Neverwhere again.
> >
> >Or you could buy something like 'The Machiavelli Factor', one of my all time
> >favourite fanzines - written by a fan who has also written professionally.
> >
> Hmm, I'll look into that. Actually if anyone has any recomendation for good
> B7 non-erotica fanzines or novellas I'd be very interested in hearing about
> them.
Let's see. Excluding erotica of any kind, my favourite zines are:
'The Totally Imaginary Cheeseboard' - Avon's adventures at a convention when a
teleport malfunction swops him with Paul Darrow. Hilarious and touching. (My
edition of this is unfortunatly lower print quality than everything else I do as
I was only allowed to copy directly from the American text rather than re-lay
out the text for UK paper)
'The Machiavelli Factor' - novel by Lilian Sheperd - alterntaive universe story
startting at 'Terminal'. Cally doesn't die. The entire crew are whisked away
to another galaxy where they get embroiled in truely Machiavellian politics.
This one will appeal mainly to Avon, Blake, Cally, Vila fans. Dayna gets a
reasonable part, but Tarrant fans don't always like this one. Blake is there
though. Hurrah! Lillian always writes a good Cally. She's of the 'Cally was
an Auron warrior' school.
'Morgan' - I don't care if I wrote it; it's still a favourite. - Avon wakes up
in Wales in 1984 with no memory of how or why he is there. The last thing he
can remember is defeating Servalan with a lump of sopron. Just to add to his
confusion, there is Morgan. Morgan could be Blake's twin brother, apart from
looking about ten years older, but he is nothing like Blake in personality.
Morgan is a hill farmer, lonely, poorly-educated and suspicious of strangers.
'The Road to Hell' by Suzan Lovett - A collection of some of the best B7 stories
ever written (two long and three short). The focus is always on Avon and Blake.
The stories manage that fine balance on the relationship between them, giving
you insight into both of them without ever toppling into overt sentimentality.
There are also some very well thought out plots. Anyone who reads 'Cricle of
Fire' will not forget it for a very long time.
My favourites are mainly ones I publish myself, for the very simple reason that
when I fall in love with an out-of-print zine, my automatic reaction is to trace
the writer and ask for permission to print a new edition.
If you want further recommendations, try looking through some of the reviews
on my web page.
Judith
PS. I'm always looking for more reviews. If you'd like to write a review of
any Blake's 7 zine, I'd be happy to publish it on the page. It doesn't matter
if the zine is out of print - it was reading reviews of out-of-print zines that
enabled me to grab some of my favourites when I first saw them in a second-hand
box at a convention.
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:45:05 -0000
From: "Julie Horner" <jihorner@dial.pipex.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Virus warning
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From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
> You can see the attitude at work in Julies posting where she admits >that
she knows she's doing wrong, but posts anyway just in case.
I think you misquote me. I did not say that I knew what I was doing was
wrong, I simply acknowledged that I knew that most of these warnings are a
hoax. In other words, what I was trying to say was, "Look don't ignore this
one because I think it is really genuine".
I realise now that this was very naive but, although I have heard of the
concept of hoax warnings, I have had virtually no exposure to them, unlike
some of you guys who have clearly had lots. Also as for as checking it out,
I wasn't aware that there were any resources for doing this (Though rest
assured I have bookmarked all the URLs passed on to me since then).
In the light of what I have seen and read this week I can now see why
everyone else spotted it as a phony from the start. The only reason I can
offer up as to why I fell for it (other than a lack of experience of these
hoaxes) is that it came from within the company I work for from a source who
is normally reliable.
Perhaps I would have brought less wrath down on my head if I had passed it
on without comment but, as I have already tried to explain, I actually
believed it might be for real and wanted to draw attention to that fact.
So. I admit I was foolish and gullible but, believe it or not, it was
well-intentioned and was not simply a case of "I can't be bothered to check"
as some people have implied.
However, it has been a useful learning experience
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Date: 29 Jan 1999 21:18:56 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Glynis Barber sighting...
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...in something called "The Apocalypse Watch", from 1997. She looks *old*.
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:14:18 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Redemption
Message-ID: <yZh4AIAKigs2EwGV@jajones.demon.co.uk>
In message <19990129091054.13647.qmail@hotmail.com>, Penny Dreadful
<pdreadful@hotmail.com> writes
>Judith said:
>
>>So far, I think we have seven
>>teddy bears and a sheep registered!
>
>...and *that*, friends, is what *I* call a Good Time.
>
But only if it's an *inflatable* sheep...
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:35:55 -0800
From: "Ma.James" <ma@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife
Message-ID: <n1294490993.33857@SSDGWY.mdc.com>
>Reuben
>Hmm, I'll look into that. Actually if anyone has any recomendation
>for good B7 non-erotica fanzines or novellas I'd be very interested
>in hearing about them.
'Desperado', 'The Double-edged Sword Trilogy', and 'The Machiavelli Factor' are
three of my favorites. Of course, the first two are heavily Avon-focused. ;)
I also like 'Checkers', 'Mirage', and 'Nova'.
Candace Baker Ma
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:43:16 CST
From: still unknown <grimjack@iastate.edu>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
Message-Id: <9901300143.AA08067@isuad1.iastate.edu>
Is it just me or is it usually the telepathically aware character that
gets steamrolled by the psychic menace of the week? And shouldn't it
maybe be the other way around, that the telepathically-aware should be
able to resist a tactic like that better?
Pondering,
grim
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:47:55 CST
From: grimjack@iastate.edu
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
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> And if we can agree on the stats :-) At the moment, I feel that Russ
> has given almost all of them too high attributes.
I guess I'll disagree here, I like 'em. :)
And since I've got the spotlight once more, I'd just like to say, keep
posting 'em everyone! And thanks.
grim
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:24:21 EST
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
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In a message dated 99-01-29 20:45:27 EST, you write:
<< Is it just me or is it usually the telepathically aware character that
gets steamrolled by the psychic menace of the week? And shouldn't it
maybe be the other way around, that the telepathically-aware should be
able to resist a tactic like that better?
>>
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:26:26 EST
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
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Whoops, sorry about the previous message. It's getting late and I'm tired.
In a message dated 99-01-29 20:45:27 EST, grim wrote:
<< Is it just me or is it usually the telepathically aware character that
gets steamrolled by the psychic menace of the week? And shouldn't it
maybe be the other way around, that the telepathically-aware should be
able to resist a tactic like that better?
>>
I think Cally was vulnerable because she was separated from her people. She
was always alone and in "Sarcophagus" and "The Web," the aliens took advantage
of her longing for contact with other telepaths to get a foothold in her mind.
In "Shadow," the alien targeted her because she was the greatest threat to it
and the only member of the crew who could stop it. It had to knock her out of
the way first before it could achieve its objective.
Tiger M
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:46:54 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Fan Fiction
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Marion wrote:
> I've been a B7 Fan for 21 years, ...
> But I haven't read any fan fiction yet. Don't know where to start.
Oh dear, where have you been?
Visit the Blakes 7 websites mentioned on this list for reviews of the
fanzines and info on where to order them.
Or, attend a convention and buy fanzines directly from the dealers.
> What is Slash?
Stories portraying romantic or sexual relationships between characters
of the same sex: usually male (since most fan writers are female). These
usually (but not always) focus on character interaction rather than
space action / adventure.
> Should I buy it or avoid it?
That depends on your personal tastes.
> Judith mentions something strange but interesting
> called "Renaissance", involving a chap I like, called Machiavelli.
> Don't believe all that is said about him, Neil, read his book "The
> Prince" and make your own mind up.
The Prince tells us little about Machiavelli himself. It is mostly a
cookbook for the successful sovereign. I expect the fanzine takes
creative liberties in fleshing out the character.
PS Marion, welcome to the list.
Pat P
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:49:18 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Would there be any objections...?
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Penny Dreadful wrote:
> >Normally I don't write slash and
> >haven't really been inclined to read it...But if there are no
> >objections, I will write it for the subscribers of this list.
>
> Come to the Dark Side, Avona!
Bare your secret soul to all
Then bare your breast to receive the slings and arrows of literary
criticism.
{just kidding}
NOT!
Pat P
Eagerly awaiting your story, with arrow notched to string.
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:39:04 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
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Calle Dybedahl wrote:
> At the moment, I feel that Russ
> has given almost all of them too high attributes.
Agreed. Giving Gan an intelligence rating of 10 = average is a good
example, reminiscent of "dumbing down" the SAT scores.
I'm nterested in seeing the intelligence score Avon rates. Well? WHERE
*is* the Avon score? (tapping foot impatiently, aka Servalan. And
Servalan does *not* like to be kept waiting!)
Strength? Yes, give Gan a 17, and Blake a 12, but the rest? Average or
below. Especially Vila and Cally, who are lightweights.
Intelligence? Yes, give Orac a 20, but the rest (save Servalan, Carnell
and Avon (in that order) show few impressive cognative abilities. Vila?
Only the alien in Sarcophogas says he is highly intelligent, but perhaps
she was comparing his adequate mind to his moronic behavior, for in the
same sentence she says he "acts like a fool."
Charisma? Give Avon a 2. bwahahahahaha!
Why don't handicaps get a numerical rating? Shouldn't they detract from
the numerical attributes score?
Pat P
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:36:37 EST
From: AChevron@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
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In a message dated 99-01-29 20:45:27 EST, you write:
<< s it just me or is it usually the telepathically aware character that
gets steamrolled by the psychic menace of the week? >>
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:41:34 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife
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>I also like 'Checkers', 'Mirage', and 'Nova'.
YES!!! Checkers is great!
So Pat...<taps foot>.... when are you going to write Chess?
Tramila
<running from the great Xena warrior> Oh and giggling like crazy. he he
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 04:24:36 PST
From: "Don Trower" <gammablue@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] [B7}: Virus warning
Message-ID: <19990127122437.1704.qmail@hotmail.com>
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The screen saver with the frogs that says "Bud - wise -err"
can be down loaded from ....
http://www.budweiser.com/screensaver/index.html
... which I have just done, scanned with the latest Dr Solomon's Anti
Virus and it appears to be OK.
Don.
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:27:14 +0100
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: RE: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
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Grim wrote:
>Is it just me or is it usually the telepathically aware character
that
>gets steamrolled by the psychic menace of the week? And shouldn't
it
>maybe be the other way around, that the telepathically-aware should
>be able to resist a tactic like that better?
Not if you think of telepathy the same way as you would think of,
say, electricity. For instance, if you plug in one of Penny's toasters it is
possible to overload it (if you do some really weird stuff to your wiring or
try to make toast for a GITHOG member). But throw some electricity at a
solid block of iron, and it will just ignore it. The toaster is set up to
receive the electricity and use it, just like telepaths are set up to
receive messages directly into their brains.
Does that sound logical? Hey, it's better than yelling "plot device"
once again.
Jacqueline
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