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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 45
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Re B7 and SF
[B7L] I'm back!
[B7L] Testing
[B7L] Merlin
[B7L] Orac (was Re: Virus warning)
Re: [B7L] Orac (was Re: Virus warning)
Re: [B7L] B7 RPG and sundry
[B7L] Used zines for sale
Re: [B7L] Finally finished Afterlife
[B7L] Re: Virus warning
Re: [B7L] Virus warning
Re: [B7L] Finally finished Afterlife
Re: [B7L] Orac (was Re: Virus warning)
[B7L] Would there be any objections...?
Re: [B7L] B7 RPG and sundry
[B7L] Redemption
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:47:43 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re B7 and SF
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>Ah yes. One of the things I noticed when I finally bought the tapes
>was how many things I could remember in episodes that I'd seen only
>twice some ten to fifteen years previously. Intersting that the
>episodes I could clearly remember were written by Chris Boucher,
>Robert Holmes and Tanith Lee.
>Julia Jones
Speaking of Tanith Lee, one gets some lovely surprises that way, as
well. I can remember the twelve year old me being affronted by what she
seems to have seen as the sub-Doctor Who monster concept of vampire
sand. Unfortunately, that meant I failed completely to remember the rest
of the episode. Fortunately, when I bought the tape with "Sand" on it,
what I saw was considerably better than what I remembered.
<wry smile> Given what I remembered, that wasn't very hard, was it?
Regards
Joanne
(time to leave the office for the day, I think)
______________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:07:23 +0100
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: "'Blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] I'm back!
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Hi everyone,
I've been gone from the list for three days, but here I am again. If you
sent any mail that was meant for me after mondaymorning, I'd appreciate it
if you'd forward it to me personally. Gossip is welcome, too.
Jacqueline
By the way, if this message arrives with strange codes or as an attachment,
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:29:53 +0100
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: "'Blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Testing
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Sorry about this, but I'm now testing if I have the right settings.
Jacqueline
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:58:41 +0100
From: Chris <cporsch@cityweb.de>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Merlin
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I am looking for a kind soul who is willing to share a copy of " Merlin
" with Gareth Thomas with me!!!
I would love to see it and I am sure it will never ( at least not in
this century ) be aired in Germany.
Of course I would cover all cost and NTSC is fine as well!!!
Thanks a lot
Christina
> cporsch@cityweb.de <
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:56:54 -0600 (EST)
From: Tegan Brandi <tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Orac (was Re: Virus warning)
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On 28 Jan 1999, Calle Dybedahl wrote:
> To bring this slightly on-topic, I like the idea someone proposed that
> Orac is really the sum total of the connections between all tarriel
> cells, and that the box of flashing lights is just his frontend.
> Something like Jane in Orson Scott Card's "Speaker For the Dead". So
> he is more of a phenomenon than a program, and doesn't have an
> operating system as such.
So would that mean that Orac as such existed before the creation of the
blinking box, and that what the crew have is just a voice box? If so, how
much was Orac doing before he was "created"?
tegan (*)
tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu
http://goddess.coe.missouri.edu/~tegan
Surreality is syrupy.
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Date: 28 Jan 1999 15:25:15 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Orac (was Re: Virus warning)
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Tegan Brandi <tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu> writes:
> So would that mean that Orac as such existed before the creation of
> the blinking box, and that what the crew have is just a voice box?
> If so, how much was Orac doing before he was "created"?
If I were writing a story around this, I'd say that Ensor saw the
potential for Orac and intentionally woke him to sentience at the same
time as he built the (first) voice box.
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
"...a festering realization that all you do is no more than the futile
slapping of paint onto the rotting, decayed infrastructure of the
Information Superhighway." -- Jinx_tigr
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:06:41 +0000
From: Russ Massey <russ@wriding.demon.co.uk>
To: still unknown <grimjack@iastate.edu>
Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 RPG and sundry
Message-ID: <fvDjaGAhkJs2EwRv@wriding.demon.co.uk>
In message <9901250443.AA06933@isuad1.iastate.edu>, still unknown
<grimjack@iastate.edu> writes
>Greetings from across the pond in deepest, darkest Iowa.
>
>Just recently rejoined this list and I've been reading with intense
>interest the thread involving B7 as a roleplaying game. So a couple of
>questions for whoever has any answers:
>
>
>3. I'd really like to see other system adaptations (GURPS, etc.) if
>anyone has them.
>
>
I've finally got around to responding to this. I statted out all the B7
regulars in GURPS terms about a year ago. To put the numbers into
some perspective for non-GURPS players, an average man has stats at
10 and human max is 20. For skill levels, a 10 is average, 12 is rather
skilled, 14 is well-trained and 16 is expert.
Some have got lost since then, but here are the ones I can find in
order of points cost:
CALLY (217 points)
Strength 11
Dexterity 14
IQ 13
Health 14
Advantages:
Autotrance
Composed
Sensitive
Disadvantages:
Bloodlust (NB - means that she prefers to kill enemies, not that she's a
beserker or anything)
Sense of duty to friends and companions
Skinny
Social Stigma (Alien)
Powers:
Telepathy (Telesend only) (+23)
Skills:
Jumping 14
Running 11
Beam Weapons 16
Brawling 15
Judo 15
Diagnosis 12
First Aid 14
Physician 11
Language (Anglic) 12
Language (Auron) 13
Cryptanalysis 11
Cryptography 10
Climbing 14
Navigation 11
Survival (desert) 13
Survival (Woodlands) 14
Tracking 13
Electronics Ops (Communications) 14
Telesend 13
Intimidation 12 (as seen in Shadow among others)
Tactics 11
Camouflage 14
Demolition 12
Stealth 15
SERVALAN (214 points)
Strength 10
Dexterity 12
IQ 15
Health 11
Advantages:
Beautiful Appearance
Charisma +2
Composed
Cool
Legal Immunity (2 levels)
Luck
Military Rank (8 levels)
Security Clearance (2 levels)
Status (8 levels)
Strong will (1 level)
Voice
Wealthy (X5)
Disadvantages:
Bully
Extravagance
Incompetence (Savoire-Faire skill)
Jealousy
Reputation: Ruthless
Sadism
Selfish
Sense of Duty (Federation)
Skills:
Beam Weapons 14
Language (Anglic) 16
First Aid 14
Law (Federation) 13
Astrogation 14
Criminology 13
Economics 13
History 12
Psychology 13
Acting 16
Administration 16
Diplomacy 15
Fast-talk 14
Intimidation 15
Leadership 14
Politics 18
Sex Appeal 14
Strategy 13
Detect Lies 13
Holdout 14 (i.e. hiding items on her person - see Traitor)
Intelligence Analysis 13
Interrogation 14
Piloting (small spacecraft) 11
More to come unless some people are repelled by huge lists of
meaningless numbers.
--
Russ Massey
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Date: 28 Jan 1999 09:35:58 -0800
From: "Ma.James" <ma@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Used zines for sale
Message-ID: <n1294606054.14015@SSDGWY.mdc.com>
Hi
All these prices are plus $3.00 for priority mail delivery in US (or whatever
the overseas mail cost is).
ALTERNATIVE SEVEN
These are hetero adult zines with some slash and BUARA
#1 $5.00
#3 $4.00
#4 $4.00
#6 $4.00
#7 $5.00
#8 $4.00
-------------
These are all slash
THE LONG WAY BACK $9.00
IT'S GREEK TO ME $10.00
4 B7 stories
3 Pros
1 AS&J
1 B7/QL
EVASIVE MANEUVERS $9.00
interesting Suzan Lovett cover illo
OBLAQUE IV $9.00
Thanks
Candace Baker Ma
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:12:13 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Finally finished Afterlife
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0128071213-bc8Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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On Wed 27 Jan, Pressenter wrote:
> I finally got around to reading Afterlife. I have to admit I was looking
> forward to it because it was actually new Blake's 7 that I hadn't read
> before; wrapped up in one nice package that I could read in bed, in the tub,
> or even over lunch break, as opposed to some of the wondeful fanfic, which
> unfortunately requires me to be in close proximity to a CRT.
News to me. There is *lots* of Blake's 7 fanfic in print form. There are over
1,000 Blake's 7 fanzines of which at least 230 are still in print. That's an
awful lot of fiction.
If you look at http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 you will find information about
fanzines published by lots of different people.
> Some minor spoilers here so if you haven't read it, don't read any further.
>
> It supprised me by not being as bad as I expected. Maybe all those years of
> reading the Dr. Who target novelizations prepared me for some of the
> childish writing styles and some . The story started pretty weak, but once
> Avon and Villa got off GP it picked up a bit. I thought the KAT idea was a
> hoot. Just what Villa always needed; a mechanical drinking buddy. It was a
> bit disappointing to find out later than Avon had built it. The alternate
> universe ideas were fairly entertaining, and Hoyle actually manages to get
> Villa right most of the time.
Please! Hoyle wasn't responsible for 'Afterlife'. That was Attwood. Hoyle
wrote the episode novelisations.
> However, the last 40 pages or so it unfortunately degraded into a utter mess.
> The Curly One shows up (in my estimation, the least likely to survive the GP
> mess) and dies, Our Lovely Lady shows up, and dies. And worst of all Avon's
> sister. I was truly glad when it was all over.
>
> Next up: A Terrible Aspect....umm, on 2nd thought I think I'll just read
> Neverwhere again.
Or you could buy something like 'The Machiavelli Factor', one of my all time
favourite fanzines - written by a fan who has also written professionally.
Judith
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:25:37 -0500
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Virus warning
Message-ID: <199901281826_MC2-6864-4EEB@compuserve.com>
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Whenever there's a virus hoax, the person who passed it on gets yelled at.
Having been on the end of this once myself, when I fell for one shortly
after getting online, I remember I was so upset by the tone of the replies
that I nearly unsubscribed from all my lists. We're all victims of these
hoaxes, but the one who falls for it is the principal victim - can't we
warn them kindly rather than angrily?
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:49:36 -0600
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Virus warning
Message-Id: <199901282346.RAA19177@mail.dallas.net>
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Harriet Monkhouse wrote:
>We're all victims of these hoaxes, but the one who falls for it is the
>principal victim - can't we warn them kindly rather than angrily?
I do, when the person appears to be a newbie who really hasn't encountered
the concept before. However, I have no patience at all with someone who
states right up front that "I know that most of these virus warnings are a
hoax" and then posts one anyway, without bothering to check it out.
- Lisa
_____________________________________________________________
Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@rsc.raytheon.com
Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/
New Riders of the Golden Age: http://www.warhorse.com/
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:14:21 -0600
From: "Reuben Herfindahl" <reuben@reuben.net>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Finally finished Afterlife
Message-Id: <199901290014.SAA20319@athena.host4u.net>
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>From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
>To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
>Subject: Re: [B7L] Finally finished Afterlife
>Date: Thu, Jan 28, 1999, 1:12 AM
>
>On Wed 27 Jan, Pressenter wrote:
>> I finally got around to reading Afterlife. I have to admit I was looking
>> forward to it because it was actually new Blake's 7 that I hadn't read
>> before; wrapped up in one nice package that I could read in bed, in the tub,
>> or even over lunch break, as opposed to some of the wondeful fanfic, which
>> unfortunately requires me to be in close proximity to a CRT.
>
>News to me. There is *lots* of Blake's 7 fanfic in print form. There are over
>1,000 Blake's 7 fanzines of which at least 230 are still in print. That's an
>awful lot of fiction.
>
>If you look at http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 you will find information about
>fanzines published by lots of different people.
>
>
Yeah, sorry to give the impression I wasn't familiar with that stuff. I'll
probably check it out again. I've read a bit, and enjoyed it. Most of the
B7 stuff I do read is the stuff posted over at Space City or on the web in
general.
>> Some minor spoilers here so if you haven't read it, don't read any further.
>>
>> It supprised me by not being as bad as I expected. Maybe all those years of
>> reading the Dr. Who target novelizations prepared me for some of the
>> childish writing styles and some . The story started pretty weak, but once
>> Avon and Villa got off GP it picked up a bit. I thought the KAT idea was a
>> hoot. Just what Villa always needed; a mechanical drinking buddy. It was a
>> bit disappointing to find out later than Avon had built it. The alternate
>> universe ideas were fairly entertaining, and Hoyle actually manages to get
>> Villa right most of the time.
>
>Please! Hoyle wasn't responsible for 'Afterlife'. That was Attwood. Hoyle
>wrote the episode novelisations.
>
<doh!> Slip of the mind. Attwood did also write the Earthlink Dilemma
however.
>
>> However, the last 40 pages or so it unfortunately degraded into a utter mess.
>> The Curly One shows up (in my estimation, the least likely to survive the GP
>> mess) and dies, Our Lovely Lady shows up, and dies. And worst of all Avon's
>> sister. I was truly glad when it was all over.
>>
>> Next up: A Terrible Aspect....umm, on 2nd thought I think I'll just read
>> Neverwhere again.
>
>Or you could buy something like 'The Machiavelli Factor', one of my all time
>favourite fanzines - written by a fan who has also written professionally.
>
Hmm, I'll look into that. Actually if anyone has any recomendation for good
B7 non-erotica fanzines or novellas I'd be very interested in hearing about
them.
Reuben
http://www.reuben.net/blake/
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:40:23 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Orac (was Re: Virus warning)
Message-ID: <36B11187.1C2@jps.net>
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Tegan Brandi wrote:
>
> On 28 Jan 1999, Calle Dybedahl wrote:
>
> > To bring this slightly on-topic, I like the idea someone proposed that
> > Orac is really the sum total of the connections between all tarriel
> > cells, and that the box of flashing lights is just his frontend.
> > Something like Jane in Orson Scott Card's "Speaker For the Dead". So
> > he is more of a phenomenon than a program, and doesn't have an
> > operating system as such.
>
> So would that mean that Orac as such existed before the creation of the
> blinking box, and that what the crew have is just a voice box? If so, how
> much was Orac doing before he was "created"?
As much as he does now, which is to say, nothing except to his own
amusement. Ture he does a bit more now in regards to being useful, but
that is mitigated by the amount of time wasted complaining about those
same useful acts.
--Avona
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:44:59 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Would there be any objections...?
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I had a notion for a very short-short stroy, non-explicit slash, occur
to me today as I was mulling over the 'unlikely pairings' questions of
the past. Now, I know this isn't the list for *that* sort of story, but
as I say, it would be non-explicit. Normally I don't write slash and
haven't really been inclined to read it, but this particular notion is
an amusing one that I think would offend no one.
If any objection at all is made, I won't bother. But if there are no
objections, I will write it for the subscribers of this list.
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:35:27 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 RPG and sundry
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I'm going to tie in the comments about roleplaying with another thread--
SF vs. F.
I play AD &D, a fantasy RPG, primarily. There is in our group, a Vila
Restal, Kerr Avon (and his twin sister), Jenna, and Roj Blake. Another
character was named Oracon and had nothing to do with B7, but notheless,
we inevitably shortened his name to Orac. We've also had NPCs such as a
telepath named Cally, and giantess (?!) named Dayna show up. We rescued
a Del Tarrant from a dungeon once, and have fought a one-eyed,
one-handed villian named Trav, and Axel Reiss (from Terrible Aspect, if
you haven't read it)-- if we get back to the game, we will be having our
final show-down with Servalan soon.
Most of the characters have been played very true to the originals'
personalities, but the powers and skills have obviously been changed.
Some are good analogies to between SF and F, but others have gone fairly
far off course. Any fantasy gamers actually want to know what we came up
with for them?
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:50:51 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] Redemption
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As we're getting closer to the date and people are worried about availability of
hotel rooms, we've uploaded the hotel form to the convention web page
http://www.smof.com/redemption/ so that people can book their hotel room when
they send in their registration.
There are still rooms left, though they'll go further if booked as twins rather
than singles. Please do think about sharing. We'll try and arrange a sharer
for you if you wish.
We've completed the provisional programme now. We've got debates and
discussions on many aspects of Blake's 7 (was Avon really a psychopath? Why
was the Federation's military strategy so terrible? etc.), games ranging from
the Dalek scalextric set to RPGs. We've talks on subjects ranging from
astrophysics to make-up. There's totally off-topic workshops on juggling and
puppetry (all right, so there's a wonderful marionette of Avon and it will be in
the auction...). There's quizes, competitions, table-top cricket, a group of
totally insane Klingons, a session to build your own spaceship from household
junk, writing workshops (by David McIntee, EPS aka Lilian Sheperd, and Jane
Killick), bloopers from B5 and B7, plus Joe Nazzaro, Sheelagh Wells, Brian
Croucher and the amazing David Walsh. Whaddya mean, you've never seen David
Walsh? He does a unique impersonation of Servalan. If you were at Deliverance
or the last Who's 7, you'll certainly remember him. Has to be seen to be
believed.
Not forgetting filking, Sheridan's trial for treason, videos from many shows as
well as favourites from B7 and B5, the disco, more games, bring and buy sale for
second-hand zines, chaos costume workshop, etc.
Judith
PS. We also do memberships for cuddly toys. So far, I think we have seven
teddy bears and a sheep registered!
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http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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