From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #3 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume99/3 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 3 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Re: Pink Floyd [B7L] Re: Space Fall Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant [B7L] Talking Books [B7L] BBC Choice Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant (not) [B7L] Re: voice recognition [B7L] Technology [B7L] Redemption web page Re: [B7L] Free time again [B7L] Net address to pictures of the good ship ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:18:36 -0000 From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk> To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Pink Floyd Message-Id: <E0zxArh-00069m-00@post.mail.demon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now it's all very well you stick in the mud's talking about Pink Floyd and the like. Let's drag this list kicking and screaming into the late 2nd millennium. My favourite B7-reminiscent song at the moment is 'Renegade Master' by Wild Child. This is more like it. It's loud, it's raucous. Plus the lyrics - what I can make out of them - appear to be the three phrases Back once again with the ill behaviour Power to the people Back once again with the renegade master More or less repeated over and over again. Always makes me think of Blake. It would make a cracking video too, with lots of fast cuts to various examples of 'ill behaviour'. Just a thought Alison ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:48:18 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Space Fall Message-ID: <3690FEDE.429B3AB7@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David McIntee said: "Oh, I was just flicking through the BBFC's website and it says the rerelease this year was uncut- wish I'd bought one now..." Forbidden Planet in London is selling the Fab Films tape one, which includes Space Fall, for 8.99 (and they are autographed by Jacqueline Pearce. -- cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:16:52 PST From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant Message-ID: <19990104211652.6129.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Carol shook her spear and spake: >"What's here? A cup, clos'd in my true love's hand? >Poison, I see, hath been his timeless end:-- >Oh churl! I guess that means I have to find a new boyfriend." Such sentiment...*sniff*...I'm all misty-eyed. -- Penny "Miss Right Now" Dreadful ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 14:08:10 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant Message-ID: <19990104220811.26302.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Carol said: >That's hilarious, so-o-o Dayna. I get the feeling *this* >Juliet wouldn't have met a tragic end: >"What's here? A cup, clos'd in my true love's hand? >Poison, I see, hath been his timeless end:-- >Oh churl! I guess that means I have to find a new boyfriend." <grin> I can see that. So much for true love. >My goodness. Vila and Dayna. That's an interesting combination. >They aren't at all alike. I've always liked Vila. Human frailty and all that sort of thing. I can sympathise with <grin> poor, put-upon Vila in a way that I wouldn't with the rest of them. Whatever reasons, if she had any at all, the twelve year old me had for liking Dayna are lost in the mists of time. Given that my acquaintance with B7 started with the fourth series, maybe I simply thought these two were the least know-it-all and superior - more the "everyman" characters because they had to ask questions more often. Or so it seemed to me <smile> >> By the way, "adorable, sweet Tarrant"? Careful, Carol, you're >> beginning to sound like Cancer! >Well, he is a tasty morsel. While she was feeding Avon to her >mechanical critter, she was keeping the succulent Tarrant for herself. >:) Succulent? Not if he's been eating Vila's leftover takeaway food, as you suggested earlier. I suggest feeding him grain or the like if you want succulence <grin> >> <mock horror> You want someone to follow Servalan's lead? >> Carol, the idea! <grin> >But...but... she's my role model. <g> Hmm. How to win friends and influence people the Servalan way. Well, Star Trek is throwing up self-help and motivation style things these days, so why not something similar for B7? Servalan, despite being fictional, might well be a better role model than Genghis Khan. More of what we think of as civilised, anyway. >> <mock meekness> Yes, Godmother. >Not quite the proper attitude...yet. Maybe I need to borrow that >machine Servalan used on Dayna. :) Machine? What machine? <mental block clearing> Oh, that machine. <sorrowful> Carol, that's brainwashing. Or do you really think that's what it takes? Regards Joanne The safest way to double your money is to fold it over once and put it in your pocket. --Kin Hubbard ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:14:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Una McCormack <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk> To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> cc: Space City <space-city@world.std.com> Subject: [B7L] Talking Books Message-ID: <Pine.PCW.3.96.990105095855.11991A-100000@umm-pc.jims.cam.ac.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Some of you may have come across the audio tapes which Alan Stevens has been producing with some of the cast members from B7: 'The Final Act', 'The Mark of Kane' and 'The Logic of Empire'. Alan is now beginning another project, which is a talking book: the idea is to have short stories read or acted out by cast members. He's still got a few slots free, and is looking for submissions. Here's some submission guidelines: 1. Submissions should be 3-5000 words long, tho' he will accept longer pieces if they're good enough. 2. They should centre primarily on a single character tho', of course, this character can interact with other crew members/characters in the course of the story! They don't have to be purely first person, and can involve scenes between characters, but please *don't write scripts*. 3. Please do not write stories which contradict anything from the previous 3 tapes so, for example, don't send a story explaining how Blake got his scar. (These shouldn't really constrain you too much.) 4. Bear in mind *actor* availability. Alan has worked with some of the cast before, and these are the ones who are most likely to participate again. So, good characters to have in your story are: Avon, Vila, Travis 2, Orac/Zen, Servalan, Gan, Cally. You can also use any of the secondary characters from the previous tapes. 5. Don't submit a Dayna story, as it's unlikely that JS would participate! Also, Alan has several stories already which focus round Blake, so he would prefer stories centered around *other* characters more. 6. No adult stories. 7. Stories should be original. They should not have been submitted elsewhere previously, and should not be submitted anywhere else subsequently. 8. Acceptance of your story implies that you will be happy to see it produced, recorded and distributed. (Basically, Alan doesn't want to find himself in a situation where the whole tape has to be stopped because an author is blocking the release of their story.) You have till the end of February! Please send submissions to me at this e-mail address. Have fun! Una ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:22:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Una McCormack <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk> To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> cc: Space City <space-city@world.std.com> Subject: [B7L] BBC Choice Message-ID: <Pine.PCW.3.96.990105112139.11447B-100000@umm-pc.jims.cam.ac.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Don't worry chaps, this recorded safely, and I shall be writing it up RSN. Just like the results of my Q-study, which people need to NAG ME ABOUT!! Una -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Napoleon is on board a British ship, looking very depressed. One sailor is saying to the other "The poor sod think he's being exiled to St Helens." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:26:26 +1100 From: "Christine Lacey" <eshva@magna.com.au> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant (not) Message-Id: <199901051125.WAA29658@s3000-01.magna.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joanne wrote: > I've always liked Vila. Human frailty and all that sort of thing. I can > sympathise with <grin> poor, put-upon Vila in a way that I wouldn't with > the rest of them. Whatever reasons, if she had any at all, the twelve > year old me had for liking Dayna are lost in the mists of time. Given > that my acquaintance with B7 started with the fourth series, maybe I > simply thought these two were the least know-it-all and superior - more > the "everyman" characters because they had to ask questions more often. > Or so it seemed to me <smile> Wow, what a sane 12 year old you were! When 12 year old me got hooked on 4th season B7 I immediately adored Avon and Soolin - Soolin because she had long hair and shot people, and Avon, well, I've never needed a reason - it comes naturally, like breathing :) Christine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 11:50:46 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: voice recognition Message-ID: <3691EE81.203E716C@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lisa said: "Of course, it was even more outlandish in '66 when Star Trek portrayed it as standard equipment." I loved the scene in the ST movie The Voyage Home when Scotty faced with a present day computer tries to talk to it. When a helpful assistant hands him the mouse, he then tries to talk into that. The implication though is that the ST writers assumed that voice recognition would go through a phase of a device to talk into first, whereas we now know that is not necessarily the case. Voice recognition software for the PC is already getting quite good and uses artificial intelligfence to learn the nuances of an individual's voice. -- cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 12:07:10 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Technology Message-ID: <3691F258.38F2E49C@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathryn said: "In Trek, voice recognition was commonplace, Trek came before Blake's 7, so why did the writers choose for it not to be commonplace? One reason could be that Blake's 7, *not* being a utopia, had to be a bit more run-down and less luxurious." What I liked about B7 was the way we saw a mix of technologies, which is a far more accurate portrayal of society than the often SF view that everything is on an even level. If you look at society today, there is a complete mix from the state-of-the-art high tech gear to the very low tech, or no tech if you take a global view. The best example in B7 I think was Project Avalon and the state of robotics from the clunky inefficient guard robot to the modern Avalon android. -- cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 12:42:50 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, Space City <space-city@world.std.com> Subject: [B7L] Redemption web page Message-ID: <3691FAB3.C60925B@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just to let you know the Redemption web page has been updated with a biography of Brian Croucher and other bits and pieces including some new links. -- cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:54:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Una McCormack <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk> To: Iain Coleman <ijc@bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk> cc: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again Message-ID: <Pine.PCW.3.96.990105110820.9687B-100000@umm-pc.jims.cam.ac.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Iain Coleman wrote: >On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, U.M. Mccormack wrote: > >> Someone said (sorry, I lost your name): >> >> >Floyd is the kind of music that needs to be listened to whilst being >> >still >> >> Very much so in my case. I fell asleep half way through their concert at >> Earl's Court in (?) 1994. > >Ah, but that wasn't really Floyd as it didn't have Roger Waters. > >(stir, stir) Floyd are as nothing without Syd. Una ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:17:52 -0000 From: "Jason Wake" <jason@jwake.freeserve.co.uk> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] Net address to pictures of the good ship Message-ID: <001e01be38f0$dbccef60$db61883e@jw> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="----------------------------"; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear all I've never posted a message to this web list before, so I hope this works. Anyway, my comment is, what is your opinion of the below web page, it has some lovely rendered pictures of the good ship liberator that I have never seen before on any other Blakes7 web pages I haven't found any links to this site either. Is it not worth even a small link? Judge for yourself: http://mateengreenway.simplenet.com/ Jason. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #3 ************************************