From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #261 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume99/261 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 261 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials [B7L] Winspit quarry [B7L] new zines [B7L] new zines Re: [B7L] Spacials Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 04:59:32 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials Message-ID: <37CFB823.CE366C3D@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Non-technical explanation: There are really two measurements, spatials (smaller, for orbits) and spacials (larger, for straight-line travel). <g> Okay, it's not very clever but it saves on headaches. Mistral -- "An intelligent man can adapt."--Avon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:45:01 +0100 From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials Message-ID: <00aa01bef623$6fb25900$ca8edec2@pre-installedco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil said >I did consider ideas like this, but the calculations get a bit hard on the >fingers. Also if range is relative to speed, that could interfere with >tactical decisions. Blake: 'How far away are those pursuit ships?' Jenna: >'One million spacials.' Blake: 'Right. Er ... how fast are we going?' On the contrary. The main thing you want to know in navigation or battle is 'how long subjectively until such and such an event' (a course correction, or something getting in range) If you measure distance using absolute measurements then you have to find out - how far away - how fast you are moving - any time distortion that applies and then work it out from there. If you measure distance in terms of 'how far you can travel in a certain subjective time' then one measurement conveys all the relevant information and you don't have to perform a calculation. Blake 'How far away are those pursuit ships' Jenna 'One million spacials' Blake 'Oh, well let's have a cup of tea then.' Alison PS This all being in the spirit of completely trivial speculation ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:55:45 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> cc: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org> Subject: [B7L] Winspit quarry Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0903155545-199Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII If anyone lives in Dorset and wants an excuse to run around Winspit quarry (where 'Games' was filmed) on Saturday morning shooting at fellow fans with a water pistol, then give me a ring on 01202 693039 and I'll tell you when and where to meet up. (It's near Wareham) Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:58:15 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> cc: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org> Subject: [B7L] new zines Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0903065815-0b0Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I've been wanting to do a new zine for some time, but health problems have got in the way. In particular, it's become incresingly difficult for me to do much typing and layout work. You may have noticed I've been a lot quieter on the lists of recent. I've been talking to Julia Jones, who is excellent at doing layout work and the like and we've decided to produce a zine or two between us. We're going to do a genzine (possibly to be called Star Four or maybe 'Teal Star')) and an adult/slash zine to be called 'Return to the Forbidden Star'. We're looking for stories to pulish in the new zines. We don't want anything that has been archived on the web, and we would prefer stuff that hasn't been on the net at all, but we will consider stuff that has appeared on Freedom City as this is not an archived list. general blurb follows. Editorital comments may possibly reach you on audio cassette rather than by letter if I have a lot of feedback on what you write, but otherwise it's business as normal. We're after innovative stories that tread new ground. Our favourite slash pairing is Blake/Avon, but we're open to absolutely anything. Good stories about characters like Travis, Gan or Servalan are just as interesting as stories about more commonly used characters. If you've an idea about a story and aren't sure if I'll like it, feel free to ask me in advance or to discuss it with me as the story progresses. The only stories we will reject out of hand are stories that are sequels to those published in other zines (unfair on people who haven't read them), stories that are incomplete, and crossovers (unless the crossover is short, incredibly funny and amazingly brilliant). We will publish parodies, tragedies, AU, silly, serious, long, short, etc. Adult stories may be as explict or non-explicit as the writer wishes. We don't mind old themes, though we prefer new ones, but I do want to feel that I'm not reading a story I've read a thousand times before. We'll publish poetry, but it had better be good. 'Good' is what people like Predatrix and Chris Blenkarn write - it not only rhymes, it also scans. We accept artwork, but please contact us before starting drawing as we prefer pictures that illustrate scenes from stories in the zine. I also have restrictions on artwork - I don't publish nudes (of either gender). I need to have the zines completed by Autumn 2000 as I must have all my free time for Redemption '01 after that. There's no deadline as yet, but we'd apprecite early submissions as this allows plenty of time for editing, proof-reading, etc. Please send text files *not* WORD files. A mimimum of three pages in the completed zine will get you a free copy. Less than this gets you a discounted copy. Judith PS. We love to encourage new writers to take up the pen. I've seen wonderful stories from people who were afraid they couldn't write. If you want feedback on your writing you'll certainly get it. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 21:39:38 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> To: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org> cc: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] new zines Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0903203938-6d1Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Julia tells me, I forgot to make it clear <grin>. Any submissions for the new zines should be sent to me not her. I'm the editor. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:57:03 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Spacials Message-ID: <000601bef6ab$da96a9a0$f018ac3e@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mistral (omigawd she's back) wrote: >Non-technical explanation: > >There are really two measurements, spatials (smaller, for orbits) >and spacials (larger, for straight-line travel). <g> > >Okay, it's not very clever but it saves on headaches. It's also one of the possibilities I've been considering. Does that say more about you or me? Neil ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:47:11 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials Message-ID: <19990904.084715.10014.0.Rilliara@juno.com> Why not just two types of spacials? Assume the original term had something to do with orbits, etc. and came into use during slower than light days. Normally, it would have been calculated in terms of the planet being orbited* but may have been standardized to reflect Earth's size. Spacials for things outside the solar system would have been calculated from _the solar system's size_. Faster than light drives would have used this standardized calculation. Confusion could be avoided by context, althought solar spacials and planetary spacials might be referred to when needed (just because we haven't heard them say it, doesn't mean they couldn't). *Spacials in planetary orbit might still be calculated in these terms, or it may have been standardized in which case it probably reflects a calculation based on the size of Earth [one of the other planets or the moon might also be standard, especially the moon since [if we're still dealing with space flight comparable to our era's] it's lower gravity and nearness to Earth would make it a better center for space travel than Earth itself. Another planet could also be the basis if one of them had become the major center of space flight [since we never hear mention of this (and I would expect this central area to maintain its edge with the development of faster then light drives despite the passage of time [OK, I'd expect something more complicated, but I've added enough subclauses as it is]) I'm not holding my breath on this idea]. Ellynne ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #261 **************************************