From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #244 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/244 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 244 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Wanker Re: [B7L] Wanker Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #242 Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #242 [B7L] Avon and Servalan (i and e 2) Re: [B7L] Rewriting the Canon (wasPossible Federation Ender....) Re: [B7L] Avon and Servalan (i and e 2) [B7L] ADMIN: Duplicates ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:10:10 -0400 From: "Huldah Beasley" To: "Mark Johnson" , "blakes7 mailing list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Wanker Message-ID: <009201bee3d0$ef9b7d00$1467fea9@eight> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01BEE3AF.67435340" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BEE3AF.67435340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been trying my hand at B7 fan fiction. While discussing it with a = friend of mine, I mentioned Tarrent and she said he was a "wanker". I = asked her what that meant exactly and she told me that she used the word = as an all-encompassing term in reference to pathetic losers not worth = her time or respect. But it sort of sparked a discussion. Terribly = sorry if it offended you with it's non-B7 nature. I'll try to keep = myself on course in future Sir! *swift military salute, thoroughly = ruined by a giggle and smile* Don't take offense luv. I have a = tendancy to be playful. H -----Original Message----- From: Mark Johnson To: blakes7 mailing list Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 5:21 PM Subject: [B7L] Wanker I'm not complaining at all, just curious. What exactly does the word = 'wanker' have to do with Blakes 7. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BEE3AF.67435340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've been trying my hand at B7 fan=20 fiction. While discussing it with a friend of mine, I mentioned = Tarrent=20 and she said he was a "wanker". I asked her what that = meant=20 exactly and she told me that she used the word as an all-encompassing = term in=20 reference to pathetic losers not worth her time or respect. But it = sort of=20 sparked a discussion. Terribly sorry if it offended you with it's = non-B7=20 nature. I'll try to keep myself on course in future Sir! = *swift=20 military salute, thoroughly ruined by a giggle and smile* Don't = take=20 offense luv. I have a tendancy to be playful.

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Mark Johnson <DJMark@universe108.fre= eserve.co.uk>
To:=20 blakes7 mailing list <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
= Date:=20 Tuesday, August 10, 1999 5:21 PM
Subject: [B7L]=20 Wanker

I'm not complaining at all, just = curious.=20 What exactly does the word 'wanker' have to do with Blakes = 7.

------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BEE3AF.67435340-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:06:02 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "blakes7 mailing list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Wanker Message-ID: <00d201bee3f2$3d202460$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Johnson asked: >I'm not complaining at all, just curious. What exactly does the word 'wanker' have to do with Blakes 7.< and Huldah replied: >I've been trying my hand at B7 fan fiction. While discussing it with a friend of mine, I mentioned Tarrent and she said he was a "wanker". I asked her what that meant exactly and she told me that she used the word as an all-encompassing term in reference to pathetic losers not worth her time or respect.< So it has plenty to do with B7! Hope we get to see some of your fanfic, Huldah. Una ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:52:10 +0100 From: "Deborah Day" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #242 Message-ID: <007801bee419$db8822c0$1b82bc3e@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Alison Page To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Date: 10 August 1999 09:57 Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #242 >>it came from the mouth of a Scotsman who was >>bemoaning Englishmen in general > >LOL > >>I assumed that it was a derogatory term >>for Englishman. > >ROFL > >>I've heard it repeatedly used on some >>television show by an "Englishman" about...well...pretty much everyone. > >ROFLMAO > >Lovely. > >I tend to think that 'Wanker' BTW has the implication of being a bit useless >(rather than self-indulgent, which would be more logical I guess). Useless >and oblivious of your own uselessness. All right, I give up. What do all these capital letters mean? I guess LOL is lots of laughs but the rest ...? Is there a dictionary for things that everybody is supposed to know (but doesn't)? Debbie Day ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:23:33 +0100 From: "Alison Page" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #242 Message-ID: <002a01bee427$5453fb40$ca8edec2@pre-installedco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was describing myself as: LOL - laughing out loud ROFL - rolling on the floor laughing ROFLMAO - rolling on the floor laughing my ... ermm... arse off I'm afraid They weren't strictly accurate (apart from LOL). Alison ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:27:41 +0100 From: "Alison Page" To: "lysator" Subject: [B7L] Avon and Servalan (i and e 2) Message-ID: <002b01bee427$558b42c0$ca8edec2@pre-installedco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Servalan and Avon are another pair of characters with similar traits, one extrovert and one introvert. In contrast to Soolin/Vila, these two are much more cerebral. But there are many types of thinking. For example there is objective, tightly reasoned thinking, and there is thinking for fun with no goal in view. Neither Servalan or Avon do much 'thinking for fun' in public. What they talk about is how they can get things, get power, by outsmarting everyone else. Imagine either of them learning about the Tachyon Funnel (or Sopron or whatever). Both of them would privately understand it as a scientific idea in its own right, but both of them would talk about it exclusively in terms of how they could use it for their own ends. In Servalan's case 'what you see is what you get'. What she cares about is getting results. Ideas are just a tool to this end. But in Avon's case 'the general is in his tent'. Although he wouldn't admit it, secretly he is more interested in the ideas than in the use. There are obvious advantages for Servalan in this difference. She isn't weakened by secret curiosity and shyness. And Avon is right that if he tried to play her directly at her own game he 'wouldn't last a week'. I guess there must be advantages on Avon's side too - greater intellectual enjoyment, less dependence on results, more depth of character. Would they make a good couple? Unlike Soolin/Vila I don't think so. She is too strong and too ruthless. They don't complement each other in the same way, they undermine each other. Loving enemies is the best they could ever be. It is also interesting that in both cases the male character (whether introverted or extroverted) is the more vulnerable of the two. I think this tells us something about the writers though, not about the sexes. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:23:32 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Rewriting the Canon (wasPossible Federation Ender....) Message-ID: <000601bee429$b7067b80$b6448cd4@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sally wrote: >he last saw Blake) in Voice - this is too short a period for me, I would >rather have 4-5 years.> > >I like this (because I just don't feel comfortable with the shorter >period) how long then do you think passed between Voice and Blake? I see the entire series encompassing something in the region of 11 years, though thanks to time dilation (a well-known phenomenon of all ftl travel) the crew experienced it as something less than that. I've got a rough timeline mapped out, you can see it at http://homepages.tesco.net/~N.Faulkner/blakes7/wehist - all completely non-authoritative, I hasten to add. Neil > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:12:49 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon and Servalan (i and e 2) Message-ID: <032e01bee42d$8b4a5bc0$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alison wrote: > But in Avon's case 'the general is in his tent'. Gosh, but that sounds like a euphemism. I hope you all appreciate the amount of cerebral thought that went into that one. Una ------------------------------ Date: 12 Aug 1999 10:31:23 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: "lysator" Subject: [B7L] ADMIN: Duplicates Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII As you may have noticed, we're getting duplicates of posts to the list. This is, as far as I can tell, because the mailserver at mail.primus.com.au thinks we need to see them all again and sends them back to us. The only thing I can do about it (apart from complaining to postmaster at the site) is to make sure no list mail gets sent there. So: katling@primus.com.au, whoever you are, I'm unsubscribing you for the time being. Please tell your sysadmin people to throw out the Microsoft crap they're running now and install a *working* mailserver instead. You're very welcome back as soon as the mailsystem for primus.com.au stops pissing in other people's gardens... (or you could get a web-based mail account, or something like that). If you have any questions or comments, mail me privately. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Please pay no attention to the panda in the fridge. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #244 **************************************