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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 235
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Possible Federation Ender....
[B7L] song for a video
[B7L] Redemption 2001
[B7L] Horizon Newsflash
Re: [B7L] Possible Federation Ender....
Re: [B7L] Possible Federation Ender....
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:03:08 +0100
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "Hellen Paskaleva" <hellen_pas@hotmail.com>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Possible Federation Ender....
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> From: Hellen Paskaleva <hellen_pas@hotmail.com>
> Last, but not least, I can't see Blake to use such a threat against
> Federation' citizens. He fights FOR them, not AGAINST them, at least.
>
But he's an unbalanced (Star One shows that) fanatic - he might think that
their deaths, rather than continued abuse under the Federation, would
actually be doing them a favour, freeing them from the suffering of their
lives...
I like that idea, actually
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:14:22 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] song for a video
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'Everybody Hurts' by REM would make a good B7 video wouldn't it? I think it
could be quite funny, along the lines of 'I get knocked down' by
Chumbawumba, which someone suggested (was it Wendy?) about this time last
year.
Can you visualise it? The video would be a montage of all the regular
characters, and most of the guests being.. well.. 'hurt' for want of a
better word. Physically preferably. There shouldn't be any shortage of shots
to choose from anyway.
Then in the penultimate section Michael Stipe is singing 'hang on.. hang
on...' you could have a montage of the crew all hanging onto each other (I
have a feeling such shots have been extensively catalogued by certain fans
:-)
And in the last bit where it is mainly wailing you could have the very last
scene.
In fact if anyone has the ear of the BBC, ask them to make this as a trailer
for the repeats of B7 which are supposed to be coming up. (heh heh, I know
they won't but it's quite a cute idea IMHO)
Anyway, I am also off on me hols, byee
Alison
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:20:49 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, Space City <space-city@world.std.com>,
Freedom City <FreedomCity@onelist.com>
Subject: [B7L] Redemption 2001
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Those of you who were at Redemption this year will already know the
following from the letter you should have received. For the rest of you,
here is the official announcement for Redemption 2001
Redemption '99 was such a success, the committee has decided to do it
again - in 2001. Nearly 300 people attended Redemption '99, raising
#2000, which was split equally between our two charities - the National
Asthma Campaign and the Woodland Trust. The same two charities will
receive all the profits from the next event as well.
Redemption '01 will be held from 23 to 25 February 2001, again at the
Ashford International Hotel in Kent. The convention will repeat the
formula of concentrating on fan run events, such as games, workshops,
panels and debates, that proved so popular last time.
Blake's 7 and Babylon 5 will again be the themes, boosted hopefully by
the news that a Blake's 7 TV movie is in the making. Gareth Thomas has
agreed to be a guest. He will be joined by Andy Lane, author of the
Babylon Files, the unofficial guides to the series, and the backs of
some 350 Babylon 5 trading cards. He has also written some Dr Who books.
Also on the guest list are Servalan impersonator David Walsh and Michael
Sheard, who played section leader Clegg in Blake's 7 and brightens up
every convention he attends. All guest appearances are subject to work
commitments.
As well as myself, the committee is made up of Eddie Cochrane, Chris
O'Shea, Judith Proctor, Lesley Rhodes, Anne Wells and Nik Whitehead.
For more information, send an sae to Lesley Rhodes, 26 Kings Meadow
View, Wetherby LS22 7FX or email redemptioninfo@smof.com, or just ask on
this list. Web address:
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson
"What is it with you and holes?"
Xena to Gabrielle, Paradise Found
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:30:05 +0100
From: Robinson Paula <Paula.Robinson@RCN.ORG.UK>
To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Horizon Newsflash
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Gareth Thomas is about to record his third 'Heartbeat' episode as Nathanial
Clegghorn, which will be ep. 12 'No Surrender'. He is then going to be
touring Scotland and Northern England in an Irish period drama set in the
time of Oliver Cromwell, called 'The Clearing'. His character is called
Solomon. Tour dates/venues aren't quite ready but it's due to open in
Edinburgh on 9th September and also play Glasgow, Dundee and Liverpool,
ending around 5th November.
Jan Chappell's American movie, starring Helen Mirren, which was to be called
Wildflowers, has now been named 'Greenfingers'.
Paula
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:01:25 PDT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Possible Federation Ender....
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Dangermouse wrote:
<But (Blake’s) an unbalanced (Star One shows that) fanatic ->
Does not. And <g> no, I won't force you all to listen to me on the
subject again. Blake was RIGHT about destroying Star One. Letting
a plague loose on the galaxy - simply to kill Servalan (!) - is a
*completely* different kettle of poisoned fish.
Yes, I do believe Avon might have done it. There isn't anyone
outside the Liberator (that we know of - he thinks both of the
Grants were dead at this stage) that he cares enough about to put
their lives ahead of getting rid of Servalan and her people. As far
as he is concerned, the whole human race can go to hell in a
high-tech handcart for the sake of the few people who matter to him.
Blake never shows much interest in Servalan as a person, barely
seeing her in her own right, more as a type that he knows there were
all too many of. She is powerful, yes, also unimportant in herself
- if she died, she'd be immediately replaced by another just as bad.
So killing her *personally* never holds much interest for him, since
he knows her death would not change anything - anything that
matters to him. So why on earth would he risk the lives of millions
for something so essentially meaningless?
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 05:39:51 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Possible Federation Ender....
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Sally Manton wrote:
> Dangermouse wrote:
> <But (Blake’s) an unbalanced (Star One shows that) fanatic ->
>
> Does not. And <g> no, I won't force you all to listen to me on the
> subject again. Blake was RIGHT about destroying Star One. Letting
> a plague loose on the galaxy - simply to kill Servalan (!) - is a
> *completely* different kettle of poisoned fish.
Up front, to avoid misunderstanding, No, I don't think Blake
would release the virus.
I did think, however, that the original question wasn't about
releasing it at Fosforon, but using it later, as a weapon; in
which case the point wouldn't be to kill Servalan, but to
break the Federation stranglehold on the outer worlds by
eliminating space travel, thereby isolating the planets from
each other--at least until an antidote was found.
It would be difficult for us to judge the relative deaths resulting
from destroying Star One vs. releasing the virus, as we don't
have sufficient information, i.e. how much control Star One
actually had vs. how common space travel was.
One possible alternate scenario is that Blake might give
the antidote to resistance groups *ahead* of releasing the
virus, with instructions to dose the general population, and
withhold it only from the ruling elite and, if possible, troops.
This might be workable if the antiviral could be administered
orally or as a gas. [As Blake was willing to destroy Star One,
I wonder if he *might* consider this, depending what sort
of death rate he expected. What does anyone think?]
> Yes, I do believe Avon might have done it. There isn't anyone
> outside the Liberator (that we know of - he thinks both of the
> Grants were dead at this stage) that he cares enough about to put
> their lives ahead of getting rid of Servalan and her people. As far
> as he is concerned, the whole human race can go to hell in a
> high-tech handcart for the sake of the few people who matter to him.
Nonsense!! He might consider it longingly, but he wouldn't
go through with it. It doesn't match up with what seems to
be his pattern in canon *at all*:
* 1) An enemy is fair game. (This includes all willing employees
and allies of the Federation, personal enemies, people who
betray him, etc.)
* 2) Strangers who deliberately set themselves in opposition to
Avon or those he cares for are fair game. Predatory
criminals are fair game.
* 3) Avon feels *no* obligation to assist innocents/neutrals
(Traitor, The Web), but he is generally polite (Aftermath,
Pressure Point), and might assist them if it is convenient
or advantageous (Deliverance, Countdown, Deathwatch).
* 4) He *doesn't* commit violent acts of aggression against
innocents/neutrals (unless it's a possible either/or situation--
Orbit, Rescue.)
In sum, 'every man for himself (with a few exceptions), but
stay out of my way and I'll stay out of yours.'
Before I could believe that Avon would release the plague, I'd
have to see a lot of examples of his willingness to harm people
indiscriminately; and I just don't think they exist in canon. He
certainly shut up quickly enough at Fosforon when Blake pointed
out that someone might escape and carry the virus off-world.
Just IMHO,
Mistral
--
"It seems that I'm some kind of a galactic yo-yo."
--the third Doctor
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