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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 169

Today's Topics:
	 [B7L] art
	 Re: [B7L] the movie
	 [B7L] MB SF
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] MB SF
	 RE: [B7L] the movie
	 [B7L] Top and bottom ranking episodes
	 [B7L] B7 novels
	 [B7L] Re: B7 novels
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] the movie
	 [B7L] Character Hobbies
	 Re: [B7L] Re: B7 novels
	 Re: [B7L] Top and bottom ranking episodes
	 Re: [B7L] Top and bottom ranking episodes
	 Re: [B7L] Top and bottom ranking episodes
	 Re: [B7L] the movie
	 Re: [B7L] hobbies
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 [B7L] Re:the movie
	 Re: OT: BACs (was Re: [B7L] Worst Openings)

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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:58:12 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] art
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I've got a friend who draws in several fandoms like Xena and is interested in
drawing for zines.  He did a lot of the art for my Star Cops zine and has a
clear cut, almost cartoon style.  He's good at both space ships and figures. 
He's not interested in doing adult/slsh art, but is willing to have a go at most
things.  If any one is looking for an artist, let me know and I'll forward the
message.

Judith
-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 -  Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
Thomas, etc.  (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight)

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:20:25 +0100
From: "David A McIntee" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "J MacQueen" <jomacqueen@yahoo.com>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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> From: J MacQueen <jomacqueen@yahoo.com>
> Reuben wrote:
> > If anyone has any question about the quality of
> >David's writing, I highly suggest checking this one
> >out
> 
> <shrug> She who has read Mission: Impractical says
> that if DM can bring a DWM comic character into a
> novel, then he's capable of considering the wish lists
> people are compiling. 
> 
> <smile> However, a ballot paper of mine would be
> marked 
>           [1] Chris Boucher

Mine too.

But I'd nominate myself second choice, since I could always use the fee...
-- 
"This path has been placed before you; the choice to take it is yours
alone."

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:13:13 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] MB SF
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Erm, I know lots of people of Myers-Briggs, but I stumbled over this, and
thought some people at least might enjoy it.

ObB7? It's The Intergalactic Explorer Home Page.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/7834/


Una

'You may not be able to change the world, but at least you can embarrass the
guilty.'
Jessica Mitford

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:06:29 +0100
From: "David A McIntee" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: <mistral@ptinet.net>, "B7 List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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> From: mistral@ptinet.net
> And I do have a preference -- it's the consistency that matters
> to me. And thanx to David McIntee for the word passionate,
> which is the one I was casting about for and couldn't find.

It certianly fits - not in the sexual or romantic sense necessarily, but
still water run deep. I'm thinking of the way that once his heart is set on
set on something, he follows it through to its fullest - for example his
desire for revenge in Rumours Of Death. He may try to convince others that
it's cold-hearted logic, but only becuase he most likely feels that if he
can convince others then that'll prove it to himself. If he really was the
way he claimed to be, he wouldn't have to convince or prove it to anyone,
and certainly not to himself.

-- 
"This path has been placed before you; the choice to take it is yours
alone."

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Mansion/4845
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Bistro/7312/
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:04:31 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "B7 List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
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> Judith Proctor wrote:
>
> > If you had to describe the things that you like about Avon and were only
allowed
> > five adjectives, which would they be?
> >
> > I think I'd go for intelligent, vulnerable, loyal, sexy and witty (in no
> > particular order)

Sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy and sexy.

Oh all right then. Sexy, brilliant, enigmatic, dry, and dumped.


Una

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:10:43 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
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Sondra Sweigman wrote:

> Now, would anyone like to try Blake?  I'll go first: Altruistic,
> courageous, compassionate, single-minded and shrewd.

Physical, manipulative, visionary, self-deluding, tragic.


Una

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:58:57 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] MB SF
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David Henderson wrote:

> I thought it was being rather accurate classifying me as an QEMT (engineer
> who conducts destructive testing...its what I do) but then looking further
> along the stats it classes a quarter of all participants as this.   (Maybe
> its inbuilt into everyone's makeup to break things :)

Well, it's classified me as 3 different things each time I've done it
(purely in the interest of research, you understand) and an engineer was one
of those - which I most certainly am not!

Still fun tho'.


Una

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:13:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: Tegan Brandi <tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu>
To: B7 List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] the movie
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> Somebody actually engaging in a hobby: listening to music;
> collecting real books, with pages; sketching; I'd like to see
> that they know the value to the human being of relaxation.

agreed. and it would only take 5 seconds tops.

> The only two instances of this happening in the series that I can remember
> both involve Cally: she took a moondisk as a pet and was listening to music
> one time when she was on teleport duty. I would like to see what the others
> would find relaxing.

there's also in Voices when we saw Cally apparently leading Avon and
Blake in some yoga-esque exercise.  

tegan (*)
tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu
http://goddess.coe.missouri.edu/~tegan

   "Embrace the moment. In the end, that's all we have."
       - Sheridan, Epiphanies

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:36:26 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "Space City" <space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] Top and bottom ranking episodes
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I had a look back at the figures from the Q-study to find out what were the
overall favourites/hates. Basically, I added all the scores for each episode
from each factor. I'm reporting just the ones that scored +10 and
above,and -10 and below, but I have a full set if anyone wants it. So:

Favourites (out of a possible 25):

10 The Way Back
10 Pressure Point
10 Terminal
10 Blake
11 Gambit
13 City at the Edge of the World
14 Star One
14 Aftermath
15 Rumours of Death


Least favourites (out of a possible -25)

-10 The Web
-10 Volcano
-11 Voice from the Past
-13 Dawn of the Gods
-15 Ultraworld
-15 Stardrive
-20 Animals


Wretched people.

Una

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:03:09 +0100
From: "kevin mahoney" <kevinpatrickmahoney@msn.com>
To: "David A McIntee" <master@sol.co.uk>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] B7 novels
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series of B7 novels?  Chris Boucher already writes for Doctor Who, and I =
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:26:19 +0100
From: "David A McIntee" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "kevin mahoney" <kevinpatrickmahoney@msn.com>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: B7 novels
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> Since it looks like we're discounting the TV movie before it even starts,
what about > another alternative?  I didn't realise that you were a B7 fan,
David.  Why don't you > suggest to the Beeb's Steve Cole a series of B7
novels?  

Already did that several times, but there are problems with the rights and
fees, as I understand it.

> Chris Boucher already writes for Doctor Who, and I know that Kate Orman
has > written some Blakle fanfic in the past.  Would the B7 fanbase be
large enough to > sustain a series of novels?


I think so - and I'm not the only Who writer who likes B7 - Gareth Roberts
and Gary Russell are also fans who've written about the series.

-- 
"This path has been placed before you; the choice to take it is yours
alone."

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Mansion/4845
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Bistro/7312/
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:14:05 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
To: B7 List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
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David A McIntee wrote:

> ----------
> > From: mistral@ptinet.net
> > And I do have a preference -- it's the consistency that matters
> > to me. And thanx to David McIntee for the word passionate,
> > which is the one I was casting about for and couldn't find.
>
> It certianly fits - not in the sexual or romantic sense necessarily, but
> still water run deep. I'm thinking of the way that once his heart is set on
> set on something, he follows it through to its fullest -

Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to by passionate;
commitment and drive, not romance, (although you could
reasonably argue from Countdown and Rumors that it
would apply there as well). As for still waters, if I could
have had a sixth word, it would have been 'controlled'.
Passion is a manifestation of energy; and leashed energy
is productive, whereas unleashed energy dissipates. It's
the control and focus of that passion that's remarkable in
Avon. Would I had half so much focus.

Just IMHO,
Mistral
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:37:48 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
To: B7 List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Jacqueline Thijsen wrote:

> Mistral wrote:
>
> > Avon finally kills Servalan; if we view this as an AU, the
> > Servalan fen should be able to handle it.
> >
> Grrrrr, watch it, girl, Servalan rules in any universe, alternate or not
> :-).

<sigh> Oh, dear, there goes my cabinet post.

Surely, Jacqueline, you could view this as simply clearing
the way for the *next* Evil Overlord to come along?

>From the Steel Queen to the Titanium Tyrant, as it were.

Your loyal subject,
Mistral the Toady
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:21:40 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Subject: [B7L] Character Hobbies
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What hobbies would you give to various characters?
I volunteer my suggestions as starters.

Blake: Crosswords, handball, hiking, forty-two.

Jenna: Billiards, water skiing, tennis, historical novels.

Avon: Spaceship-in-a-bottle modeling, Magic: The
Gathering, handball, origami.

Cally: Skydiving, hydroponic flower gardening, sketching,
belly dancing, jigsaw puzzles.

Gan: Five-pin, darts, needlepoint.

Vila: Darts, Magic: The Gathering, practical jokes, juggling.

Dayna: Swimming, gymnastics, Mahjongg, fencing, music.

Tarrant: Football, Mahjongg, fencing, interpretative reading.

Soolin: Yoga, logic problems, solitaire, mystery novels.

Servalan: Cribbage, jigsaw puzzles, bonsai, Risk (galactic edition).

Travis: Slot car racing, laser sculpture, poker.

****
Obviously this topic has been preying heavily on my mind.

Grins,
Mistral
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:58:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: J MacQueen <jomacqueen@yahoo.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: B7 novels
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David A McIntee  wrote:
>and I'm not the only Who writer who likes B7 -
>Gareth Roberts and Gary Russell are also fans >who've
written about the series.

<drooling quietly> Gareth Roberts writing a B7 novel!
Please, please, please...<smile> As you can imagine, I
was rather fond of his Missing Adventures novels, and
The Highest Science was very entertaining too.

So that's one definite (David) and three maybes
(depending on what else they're writing at the
relevant time). Presumably BBC Books are waiting for
hell to freeze over...

Regards
Joanne

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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:36:11 +1000
From: "David Henderson" <David.Henderson@jcu.edu.au>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "Space City" <space-city@world.std.com>
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From: Una McCormack 
>Favourites (out of a possible 25):
8<

>13 City at the Edge of the World



Just goes to show how many people have a soft spot for Vila.

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:48:37 -0500
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Top and bottom ranking episodes
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David Henderson wrote:

>>13 City at the Edge of the World
>
>Just goes to show how many people have a soft spot for Vila.

Vila? Maybe they all liked Bayban. 

	- Lisa
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:00:05 -0600
From: Penny Dreadful <egomoo@mail.geocities.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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At 06:48 PM 5/19/99 -0500, Lisa Williams wrote:

>>>13 City at the Edge of the World
>>
>>Just goes to show how many people have a soft spot for Vila.
>
>Vila? Maybe they all liked Bayban. 

Yes! Bayb! The attitude, the fashion sense, the Great Big Gun!

Anybody else find it odd that Kerrill went instantly all shrieky and girly
as soon as she bathed? I know I learned a valuable lesson from that.

--Penny "Stinky Tuscadero" Dreadful

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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 02:35:35 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] the movie
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Judith wrote:
>I think we've mentioned a lot of the things that we wouldn't like to see in
a
>movie.  What are the things that we would like to see?
>My list includes:
>Liberator (or a sister ship because she's one of the most lovely spaceships
>ever)

Since we know there were at least two DSVs, why not a third?  Return of the
Altas, perhaps.

>-One or two new characters, because you have to move forward as well as be
loyal
>to the past.

You could get some mileage out of the friction between the New Young Turks
and the Grey-haired Old Fogies (which Blake/Avon would be by this time).
Suppose there's been a technological revolution and the tarriel cell is a
museum piece.  Blake and/or Avon are out of their depth.  Then circumstances
send the new crew to some backward planet where the old technology still
rules.  Suddenly the old guard are the ones with the know-how.

>A plot that has some insight into the political workings of the
Federation - I
>want wheeling, dealing, manipulating and conflict on more than one level
and a
>movie has a better chance of developing that than a single episode does.

Assuming that any new movie would be set 20 years on from the series, I
would like to see a New Democratic Federation crumbling under the weight of
its own corruption.  Behind the scenes, of course, nothing's really changed,
and the same breed of scum are running the show.  Besides, a New Federation
is a good excuse for a total design revamp.

>Spacial effects, though not so many that they dominate everything else.

Let them be good where they need to be present at all (and in something like
B7, you're gonna need 'em somewhere along the line).

Personally I don't see why there shouldn't be tons of special effects, just
so long as there's enough plot and characterisation to stop them taking
centre stage.  (It's balance, not quantity, that counts.)

One thing I'd really like to see is two DSVs hunting each other through the
wreckage of Spaceworld.

>No romance - at least, not for Avon.  I'd like to see Vila find a long-term
love
>though.

Guess it says something about me that I'd never even thought about this
angle:)

>Old characters - Avon and Vila, and possibly Servalan (but played straight
>rather than camp.  Well, all right, a little camp, but I want her played as
>intelligent, competent and able to command enough loyalty among her
followers to
>make her believeable as a leader)

Avon definitely, Vila probably, Blake if he can be sensibly worked into it,
Servalan likewise.  But I would want either Cally or Jenna in there too.

Julie Horner added:
>- the same theme tune, not messed about with in any way,

Here I disagree totally.  Scrap the lame old series theme and bring in a
pulsing techno soundtrack.  And definitely no epic Horneresque orchestral
pieces.

>- witty lines and generally sharp dialogue,

The more the better, I say.

>- judicious use of flash backs,

Except that they would probably clash visually with the style of the movie
and show the series up for the woefully under-budgeted hash job that it was.
And new viewers wouldn't make much sense of them either.


My own additions to the list:
- more obvious weapon lethality.  And a bit of blood and guts where called
for.  I don't mean gratuitous violence, just make it clear that when people
get shot they are indeed getting shot.
- sensible costume/set design.  Don't let Nicky Rocker anywhere near the
production.
- at least some of the story set in an urban locale.  Let's see what cities
are like, since most people will probably be living in them.
- recognisable continuity with the series (someone else cited this, I know -
but I'm seconding it).  No outright contradiction of the aired canon - add
to it, extrapolate from it, by all means, but don't contradict it.
- a sense of the outlandish and bizarre but without getting silly (much as
Gambit managed to pull off).
- a wry and cynical comment on the sorry state of the world as we enter the
new millennium.
- lots of penguins.

Neil

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:15:39 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] hobbies
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Jacqueline wrote, re hobbies:
>The only two instances of this happening in the series that I can remember
>both involve Cally: she took a moondisk as a pet and was listening to music
>one time when she was on teleport duty. I would like to see what the others
>would find relaxing.

Cally was also seen sketching in Sarcophagus.  She also used a 'bookscreen'
in the same episode, and the only suggestion of Dayna's interest in music
comes from the same source.

Elsewhere in the series, Sarkoff had his collection of authentic 20th
Century artefacts (dead thrush included), and Tynus kept locusts as pets
(which he was seen drawing at one point).  The Chairman of the Terra Nostra
kept a pet tarantula.  (It's not terribly obvious for what it is on screen,
but there's a publicity still in the Wells/Nazarro book that shows it's very
clearly a large spider.)

Many people were seen playing board games of various kinds.  Check out the
entry for GAMES in the Sevencyclopaedia.  Belkov, of course, had turned
games-playing into a way of life.  Both Gan and Servalan (as well as Cally)
were seen wearing some kind of visual entertainment device, and the Duty
Controller on Earth in The Way Back had some hot sounds to boogie on down
to.

All in all, quite a lot of examples when you start looking for them.

Neil

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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 02:36:57 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
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>> I think I'd go for intelligent, vulnerable, loyal, sexy and witty (in
no
>> particular order) 
>
>Gorgeous, sexy, well-dressed, witty, and intelligent.
>
>Supercilious, self-absorbed, short-tempered, savage, slick.

Ruthless, cynical, sarcastic, smart-assed, and arrogant.

I love the guy, I really do:)

Neil

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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:18:55 +1000
From: Sarah Berry <berrys@connexus.net.au>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re:the movie
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Judith:
>>A plot that has some insight into the political workings of the
>>Federation - I want wheeling, dealing, manipulating and conflict..

Julie:
> Or whatever regime has supplanted the Federation. Maybe radical 
>changes in the political structure could be the reason why the 
>story is being told now...

I think everyone's given very sensible (from a fan perspective) movie needs. 
Above is the one I think is critical: why is the story being told once more? 
And a radical shake up in the Federation would be a logical start or a strong
resurgence in the need for resistence or in the ability of the resistence to
resist!  Would Servalan really still be a major player after 15-20 years?  Ha,
maybe, she's become embittered and joined the rebels - become an Anna Grant and
is seeking out Avon....
Sarah Berry.

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:46:32 PDT
From: "Stephen Date" <stephendate@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: OT: BACs (was Re: [B7L] Worst Openings)
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Gail wrote:

>By the way, what kind of Christian would Blake be?  I suspect he 
>would be one of those obnoxious "I-won't-take-no-for-an-answer" 
>missionaries that so many are complaining about.  After all, that's 
>what he does with the fight against the Federation.

I think that's slightly unfair to Blake. Blake is ruthless, 
determined and very, very bossy but then he is fighting a facist 
dictatorship. Successful revolutionaries tend not to start their 
speeches with the words "On the one hand, in a very real sense...". 
He retains a sense of humour and a capacity for self criticism
(in Trial to take the most conspicuous example), neither of which are 
common among religious fanatics. I have to say I think Blake would be 
attracted to Liberation Theology or the Social Gospel, rather than 
pestering complete strangers asking if they've been saved.

Incidentally, in the mid-eighties the Beeb did an English Civil War 
series called "By the Sword Divided" in which Gareth Thomas played a 
ruthless Cromwellian Major-General. I will always remember the bit 
when a wounded Royalist lying on the ground in front of him smiled 
engagingly and said "You have me at your mercy sir". Whereupon GT 
pulled out a gun and shot him.

Not really the sort of thing our hero would do.

Stephen.

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