From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se
Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #168
X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se
X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume99/168
Precedence: list
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------"
To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se
Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
------------------------------
Content-Type: text/plain
blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 168
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Re: the movie
RE: [B7L] MB SF
Re: [B7L] MB SF
Re: [B7L] the movie
Re: [B7L] Avon
Re: [B7L] Avon
[B7L]Re:the movie
Re: [B7L] the movie
Re: [B7L] the movie
Re: [B7L] the movie
Re: [B7L] Avon
[B7L] Avon
Re: [B7L] Avon
[B7L] Off-topic: Rallying Call
RE: [B7L] the movie
RE: [B7L] the movie
[B7L] The Movie
[B7L] B7 Wallpaper
Re: [B7L] Avon
Re: [B7L] Avon
RE: [B7L] the movie
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 99 05:41:00 GMT
From: s.thompson8@genie.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: the movie
Message-Id: <199905180551.FAA04094@rock103.genie.net>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
AdamWho said:
>I'd really like to see Jenna again, since she got no on-camera exit during
>Star One or Aftermath. If she's still alive, what she's doing now, if Avon
>or
>Blake (if Blake is alive) have been in contact with her, how she feels
>about the years she spent on the Liberator, etc.
Yes! It would be very plausible for Jenna still to be alive after all.
Maybe Blake was lying about her death, or maybe he sincerely did think she
was dead. Maybe she somehow got off her ship before it exploded. Maybe she
was injured in the explosion and became amnesiac as a result, and has only
just remembered who she is. (Sort of like Hellhound Blake. :)
Sally K. still has plenty of star quality-- maybe even more than when she
was young and inexperienced. She could certainly carry off a major role.
Nice idea.
Sarah T.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:29:04 +0200
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] MB SF
Message-ID: <39DCDDFD014ED21185C300104BB3F99F10FBD3@NL-ARN-MAIL01>
Content-Type: text/plain
Una wrote:
> Erm, I know lots of people of Myers-Briggs, but I stumbled over this, and
> thought some people at least might enjoy it.
>
> ObB7? It's The Intergalactic Explorer Home Page.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/7834/
>
Thanks Una, this was fun. I never really thought of myself as a strategist,
though.
Jacqueline
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:30:17 +1000
From: "David Henderson" <David.Henderson@jcu.edu.au>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] MB SF
Message-ID: <000c01bea108$a93cd8a0$653bdb89@lemon.jcu.edu.au>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
From Una:
>Erm, I know lots of people of Myers-Briggs, but I stumbled over this, and
>thought some people at least might enjoy it.
>
>ObB7? It's The Intergalactic Explorer Home Page.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/7834/
>
I thought it was being rather accurate classifying me as an QEMT (engineer
who conducts destructive testing...its what I do) but then looking further
along the stats it classes a quarter of all participants as this. (Maybe
its inbuilt into everyone's makeup to break things :)
Nicely distracting fun though.
DavidH
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:38:30 +0100
From: "David A McIntee" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "Judith Proctor" <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>,
"Lysator List" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] the movie
Message-Id: <199905181038.LAA28274@gnasher.sol.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
----------
> From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> I think we've mentioned a lot of the things that we wouldn't like to see
in a
> movie. What are the things that we would like to see?
A decent script for a start.
> My list includes:
>
> Liberator (or a sister ship because she's one of the most lovely
spaceships
> ever)
Seconded
> One or two new characters, because you have to move forward as well as be
loyal
> to the past.
Absolutely
> A plot that has some insight into the political workings of the
Federation - I
> want wheeling, dealing, manipulating and conflict on more than one level
and a
> movie has a better chance of developing that than a single episode does.
But this is a season 4-ish thing drafted by Mister Uncomplicated himself,
so I wouldn't hold my greath, great though this would be.
> Spacial effects, though not so many that they dominate everything else.
Why not? It's not going to hurt The Phantom Menace...
> No romance - at least, not for Avon. I'd like to see Vila find a
long-term love
> though.
Hm.
> Old characters - Avon and Vila, and possibly Servalan (but played
straight
> rather than camp. Well, all right, a little camp, but I want her played
as
> intelligent, competent and able to command enough loyalty among her
followers to
> make her believeable as a leader)
That'd be great. But this is the team behind the radio shows, where
Servalan is camper than Dale Winton
> Gareth Thomas - either as Blake, or the clone, or someone else. (One of
my
> favourite fan stories has Blake as a computer programme)
They should reference Blake but if they got Gareth involved they should
keep it secret - and make the viewers guess whether he really will show up.
> I want to see the deeper aspects of Avon's character brought out. I want
to see
> that occasonal honesty forced to the surface. I want him to have to make
> difficult choices that can't be solved with a gun (one of my all time
favourite
> movies is 'Bronco Billy' where Clint Eastwood goes against his own legend
when
> is character is forced to back down from a gunfight in order to help a
friend)
Again, the radio shows would suggest there isn't much chance of this,
unfortunately.
> I want to see more of the Federation, to see what it has become, to see
how its
> people live their lives.
That'd be nice, but probably sould get skipped as unnecessary
> I want a real feeling that time has passed and I want to know at least a
little
> bit about how and why the Federation has changed - if indeed, it still
exists.
Well, we never really saw much of its lives or its workings originally, so
even if they did that, it wouldn't really be showing a difference...
Me, I'd like to see:
Decent effects, however few or many there are.
Chris Boucher writing the script. Or me.
Location filming other than in quarries and woods.
A complex Avon perhaps unsure of who he is any more
Fates given for all the season 4 cast
Servalan being a believable military leader
Real science getting a look-in.
A plot that would actually surprise me.
--
"This path has been placed before you; the choice to take it is yours
alone."
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Mansion/4845
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Bistro/7312/
-------
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:31:00 +0100
From: "David A McIntee" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "Judith Proctor" <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>,
"Lysator List" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-Id: <199905181038.LAA28262@gnasher.sol.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
----------
> From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> If you had to describe the things that you like about Avon and were only
allowed
> five adjectives, which would they be?
>
> I think I'd go for intelligent, vulnerable, loyal, sexy and witty (in no
> particular order)
Intelligent, Dangerous, Way-cool, Deep, Idealistic. And if allowed a sixth
I'd add Passionat. Those last two will get some queries, I'm sure, but I
think they both fit - they're just something he hides and denies.
--
"This path has been placed before you; the choice to take it is yours
alone."
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Mansion/4845
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Bistro/7312/
-------
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 05:23:28 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
To: B7 List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-ID: <37415BBF.12E0717F@ptinet.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Judith Proctor wrote:
> If you had to describe the things that you like about Avon and were only allowed
> five adjectives, which would they be?
>
> I think I'd go for intelligent, vulnerable, loyal, sexy and witty (in no
> particular order)
<chuckle> It's difficult to find fault with this, Judith. I'd say
you may have come up with *the* definitive list. Mine looks
like this:
Complex, intelligent, passionate, consistent, and magnetic.
And I do have a preference -- it's the consistency that matters
to me. And thanx to David McIntee for the word passionate,
which is the one I was casting about for and couldn't find.
Going off to meditate on Vila words,
Mistral
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:47:33 +0100
From: "Julie Horner" <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com>
To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L]Re:the movie
Message-ID: <00da01bea12c$a07c0d70$170201c0@pc23.Fishnet>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Judith said:
>I think we've mentioned a lot of the things that we wouldn't like to
see in a
>movie. What are the things that we would like to see?
>My list includes:
>One or two new characters, because you have to move forward as well as
be loyal
>to the past.
Definitely. I vote for John Nettles - Paul Darrow and John Nettles in
the same movie
would be TV Heaven!
>A plot that has some insight into the political workings of the
Federation - I
>want wheeling, dealing, manipulating and conflict on more than one
level and a
>movie has a better chance of developing that than a single episode
does.
Or whatever regime has supplanted the Federation. Maybe radical changes
in
the political structure could be the reason why the story is being told
now, e.g.
Avon incarcerated and forgotten somewhere and changes in the regime mean
he gets noticed again.
>Special effects, though not so many that they dominate everything else.
It wouldn't worry me if there were no effects, but you are right they
shouldn't
overshadow the story.
>No romance - at least, not for Avon. I'd like to see Vila find a
long-term love
>though.
I couldn't agree more!
>Old characters - Avon and Vila, and possibly Servalan ....
Absolutely! And someone else has already mentioned Jenna - good idea.
>I want to see the deeper aspects of Avon's character brought out. I
want to see
>that occasonal honesty forced to the surface. I want him to have to
make
>difficult choices that can't be solved with a gun ...
I want to see Avon played as he would be after 15 or 20 years with
character
changes to take that in to account. Wealth wouldn't be important to him
now
and maybe he would have lost some of the arrogance, gaining wisdom and
patience instead.
>I want to see more of the Federation, to see what it has become, to see
how its
>people live their lives
It would be nice to get a glimpse at what every day life is like for an
ordinary
citizen.
I would also like:
- the same theme tune, not messed about with in any way,
- witty lines and generally sharp dialogue,
- judicious use of flash backs,
- an account of what happened to Avon (and the others?) after GP but
told so that it takes no more than two or three lines of dialogue,
- some surprises and maybe a sting in the tail.
Julie Horner
Software Engineer
Lincoln Software
Tel: +44 (0) 1625 616722
Fax: +44(0) 1625 616780
E-mail: julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com
Web: http://www.lincolnsoftware.com
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:37:45 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
To: B7 List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] the movie
Message-ID: <37417B38.880D2EF9@ptinet.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Judith Proctor wrote:
> I think we've mentioned a lot of the things that we wouldn't like to see in a
> movie. What are the things that we would like to see?
Mistral's Ultimate B7 Fantasy Wish List:
=====================================
Must Haves:
A balanced emphasis between all the returning regular
cast, instead of focusing on one or two.
Terrific Avon-Vila bits.
More character development of everybody; particularly
Soolin, if used. The characters are older, they should have
matured some; possibly a slightly more world-weary Vila;
he was starting to get that way at the end of series D.
Stronger writing for the female crew.
A plot, a la series B. (As opposed to an action flick, a la
series D.) Action sequences for pacing and punctuation,
but not dominant.
Regular Federation citizens, who *aren't* either rebels
or Federation lackeys -- people like Bek, Hanna, Bellfriar.
I'd particularly like some grittiness -- maybe even run into
the Terra Nostra again.
=====================================
Extremely Desirable:
Blake -- how about as computer-interface simulation? Flies
the new ship, mothers the crew, philosophizes with Avon and
prods them all into action.
Rebuild the Liberator. (Yes, well, I'm fantasizing, okay?)
Sally Knyvette; if not as Jenna, then maybe a new baddie?
Interesting but unobtrusive guest stars, for example, Diana
Rigg as a Federation official and Servalan's nemesis; David
Suchet as an Amagon or other baddie; etc.
The return of a minor character, such as Tyce, Artix, Bek,
Ro, etc.; maybe Del Grant as leader of a rival faction?
Lots of little in-jokes for long-time fans to watch for: cameos
by actors who were on the series, a character named Valentine,
a bar called the Minbari; etc.
Let them come out ahead of Servalan for a change; get
the downbeat ending some other way. And I *do* think
it should have a (mildly) downbeat ending, if only to avoid
giving the BBC a reason to launch a cheerily optimistic
90's series. Keep it B7.
=====================================
Scenes I'd Like to See:
Avon and Soolin relaxing together over ice-cream sundaes.
Tarrant pulling off some brilliant piloting and getting a big
kick out of it.
Avon finally kills Servalan; if we view this as an AU, the
Servalan fen should be able to handle it.
Somebody actually engaging in a hobby: listening to music;
collecting real books, with pages; sketching; I'd like to see
that they know the value to the human being of relaxation.
Somebody catches Avon doing something ridiculous, like
impersonating a movie star or dancing around his room.
Vila finally wins a game!!!!!!!
Now, there's a happy thought. <smile>
Mistral
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:05:50 +0100
From: "kevin mahoney" <kevinpatrickmahoney@msn.com>
To: "Lysator List" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] the movie
Message-ID: <009601bea159$12091920$d25095c1@MSNKevinPatrickMahoney>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0093_01BEA161.719BFB20"
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BEA161.719BFB20
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Judith Proctor wrote:
>I think we've mentioned a lot of the things that we wouldn't like to =
see in a
>movie. What are the things that we would like to see?
>
>My list includes:
>Liberator (or a sister ship because she's one of the most lovely =
spaceships
>ever)
>One or two new characters, because you have to move forward as well as =
be loyal
>to the past.
>A plot that has some insight into the political workings of the =
Federation - I
>want wheeling, dealing, manipulating and conflict on more than one =
level and a
>movie has a better chance of developing that than a single episode =
does.
>Spacial effects, though not so many that they dominate everything else.
>Old characters - Avon and Vila, and possibly Servalan (but played =
straight
>rather than camp. Well, all right, a little camp, but I want her =
played as
>intelligent, competent and able to command enough loyalty among her =
followers to
>make her believeable as a leader)
>Gareth Thomas - either as Blake, or the clone, or someone else. (One =
of my
>favourite fan stories has Blake as a computer programme)
>I want to see the deeper aspects of Avon's character brought out. I =
want to see
>that occasonal honesty forced to the surface. I want him to have to =
make
>difficult choices that can't be solved with a gun (one of my all time =
favourite
>movies is 'Bronco Billy' where Clint Eastwood goes against his own =
legend when
>is character is forced to back down from a gunfight in order to help a =
friend)
>I want to see more of the Federation, to see what it has become, to see =
how its
>people live their lives.
>I want a real feeling that time has passed and I want to know at least =
a little
>bit about how and why the Federation has changed - if indeed, it still =
exists.
I pretty much agree with all of this, although it's a pretty tall order =
for a TV movie - I'm hoping more for a series! I have thought about =
writing a new series of episodes on the internet, including most of =
these elements, in a consistent B7 universe with a plot leading to a =
cliffhanger, in much the same style as those Trevor Hoyle adaptations. =
But I don't really have the time. I suppose I could always try writing =
the first few scene setting episodes, to introduce new characters and =
to convey how the Federation has developed, and if people want more...
Kevin Mahoney
Buy books online from Genre
------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BEA161.719BFB20
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3DWindows-1252 =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<STYLE></STYLE>
<META content=3D'"MSHTML 5.00.0910.1309"' name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Judith Proctor wrote:<BR></DIV>>I think we've mentioned a lot of =
the=20
things that we wouldn't like to see in a<BR>>movie. What are =
the things=20
that we would like to see?<BR>><BR>>My list =
includes:<BR>>Liberator (or=20
a sister ship because she's one of the most lovely=20
spaceships<BR>>ever)<BR>>One or two new characters, because you =
have to=20
move forward as well as be loyal<BR>>to the past.<BR>>A plot that =
has some=20
insight into the political workings of the Federation - I<BR>>want =
wheeling,=20
dealing, manipulating and conflict on more than one level and =
a<BR>>movie has=20
a better chance of developing that than a single episode =
does.<BR>>Spacial=20
effects, though not so many that they dominate everything =
else.<BR>>Old=20
characters - Avon and Vila, and possibly Servalan (but played=20
straight<BR>>rather than camp. Well, all right, a little camp, =
but I=20
want her played as<BR>>intelligent, competent and able to command =
enough=20
loyalty among her followers to<BR>>make her believeable as a=20
leader)<BR>>Gareth Thomas - either as Blake, or the clone, or someone =
else. (One of my<BR>>favourite fan stories has Blake as a =
computer=20
programme)<BR>>I want to see the deeper aspects of Avon's character =
brought=20
out. I want to see<BR>>that occasonal honesty forced to the=20
surface. I want him to have to make<BR>>difficult choices that =
can't be=20
solved with a gun (one of my all time favourite<BR>>movies is =
'Bronco=20
Billy' where Clint Eastwood goes against his own legend when<BR>>is =
character=20
is forced to back down from a gunfight in order to help a =
friend)<BR>>I want=20
to see more of the Federation, to see what it has become, to see how=20
its<BR>>people live their lives.<BR>>I want a real feeling that =
time has=20
passed and I want to know at least a little<BR>>bit about how and why =
the=20
Federation has changed - if indeed, it still exists.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I pretty much agree with all of this, although it's a pretty =
tall=20
order for a TV movie - I'm hoping more for a series! I have =
thought about=20
writing a new series of episodes on the internet, including most of =
these=20
elements, in a consistent B7 universe with a plot leading to a =
cliffhanger, in=20
much the same style as those Trevor Hoyle adaptations. But I don't =
really=20
have the time. I suppose I could always try writing the first few =
scene=20
setting episodes, to introduce new characters and to convey how =
the=20
Federation has developed, and if people want more...</DIV>
<DIV>Kevin Mahoney</DIV>
<DIV>Buy books online from <A=20
href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Nook/1082">Genre</A><BR></DIV></BOD=
Y></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BEA161.719BFB20--
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:49:35 EDT
From: AdamWho@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] the movie
Message-ID: <51d5ef89.2473103f@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 99-05-18 10:38:40 EDT, mistral@ptinet.net writes:
<< Sally Knyvette; if not as Jenna, then maybe a new baddie? >>
Jenna's evil clone, built by the Federation, she wants to kill Avon and crew
because they made Jenna spend so much of season 2 on teleport duty.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:58:00 EDT
From: JennaStan@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-ID: <3e9f69b8.24731238@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 99-05-17 13:19:53 EDT, Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk writes:
<< I think I'd go for intelligent, vulnerable, loyal, sexy and witty (in no
particular order) >>
Gorgeous, sexy, well-dressed, witty, and intelligent.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:38:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sondra Sweigman <sweigman@world.std.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Avon
Message-Id: <Pine.SGI.3.95.990518153520.26029B-100000@world.std.com>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Finally -- a topic short enough for me to contribute to :-)
My 5 adjectives for Avon: Honest, strong-willed, inner-directed,
competent and loyal.
Now, would anyone like to try Blake? I'll go first: Altruistic,
courageous, compassionate, single-minded and shrewd.
Sondra
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:11:01 -0600
From: Penny Dreadful <egomoo@mail.geocities.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990518141101.007cb860@mail.geocities.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
><< I think I'd go for intelligent, vulnerable, loyal, sexy and witty (in no
> particular order) >>
>
>Gorgeous, sexy, well-dressed, witty, and intelligent.
Supercilious, self-absorbed, short-tempered, savage, slick.
No wait, maybe that's Blake.
'You are looking at the cleverest, meanest, sickest talking monkey...I
*love* him.' --The Prophecy
--Penny Dreadful, SD.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:30:33 +0000
From: "Terry Owen" <owen6511@earthlink.net>
To: space-city@world.std.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Off-topic: Rallying Call
Message-Id: <199905182043.NAA09231@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
I don't know why but I always seem to post messages about the
Rallying Call APA during cons.
Right after I posted the last time, I had some email/server problems.
While I think I replied to everyone who wrote to me, I would just
like to ask if anyone here tried emailing me about RC but didn't get
a reply please try me again!! I just have this nagging feeling that I
may have missed someone!
Thanks,
Terry Owen
-=-=- owen6511@earthlink.net -=-=-
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:36:59 -0500
From: Reuben Herfindahl <rherf@tursso.com>
To: "'Blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] the movie
Message-ID: <0F144D2FBA41D211A6A000A0C9DD630D090693@STPNT4>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
From: David A McIntee <master@sol.co.uk>
> >Me, I'd like to see:
> >
> >Decent effects, however few or many there are.
> >
I'd really love to see a realistic starfield. No more innacurate matte
paintings.
> >Chris Boucher writing the script. Or me.
> >
Seconded. Or if Boucher writes it, you could do the novelization. I have
to admit Boucher's recent Who novel forray was less than spectacular. (I
just finished The Wages of Sin last week. If anyone has any question about
the quality of David's writing, I highly suggest checking this one out.)
> >Location filming other than in quarries and woods.
> >
What! There has to be at least one quarry scene. Just for nostolga's sake.
> >A complex Avon perhaps unsure of who he is any more
> >
I fear what we will get is more of a ATA Avon.
> >Fates given for all the season 4 cast
> >
It would be nice, but it would risk confusing the casual new viewer. Sort
of how the Who movie shouldn't have explained regeneration. It was
unessesary and confused the viewer.
> >Servalan being a believable military leader
> >
Or at least shown to be THE behind the scenes opperator.
> >Real science getting a look-in.
> >
Definately.
> >A plot that would actually surprise me.
> >
The last two radio plays didn't? Sure they wern't all that great, but they
certainly were suprising (although usually for all the wrong reasons).
Reuben
http://www.reuben.net/blake/
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: J MacQueen <jomacqueen@yahoo.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: RE: [B7L] the movie
Message-ID: <19990518225904.5335.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Reuben wrote:
> If anyone has any question about the quality of
>David's writing, I highly suggest checking this one
>out
<shrug> She who has read Mission: Impractical says
that if DM can bring a DWM comic character into a
novel, then he's capable of considering the wish lists
people are compiling.
<smile> However, a ballot paper of mine would be
marked
[1] Chris Boucher
Hmm, voting. That sort of vote would be a lot more fun
than it was trying to decide who would get second last
place on my lower house ballot paper in the NSW state
elections (last place went to One Nation
automatically).
Regards
Joanne
Winter is icumen in,
Lhude sing Goddamm!
--Ezra Pound, Ancient Music
_____________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:47:16 -0700
From: Cheryl A Marks <smoothfox@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] The Movie
Message-ID: <19990518.185316.172.0.smoothfox@juno.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just hope the powers that be don't do to B7 what it sounds like they
did
to Poldark. I guess the pilot for a new series was a major
disappointment
because they recast "sacred" roles.
I guess I have another hope -- a strong director. I love PD dearly but
from what I've seen his performance improves under clear direction.
Cheryl
*************************************************************************
Cheryl Marks, Coordinator Fox Terrier Fanciers of Puget Sound Rescue
All our dogs are listed on www.petshelter.org
Find out more about fox terriers! Check out
www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/9183 and www.prodogs.com/brn/ftn
"Acquiring a dog may be the only opportunity a human ever has to choose a
relative" unknown
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:26:12 -0700
From: kalazar <kalazar@earthlink.net>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>,
"space-city@world.std.com" <space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] B7 Wallpaper
Message-ID: <37422F54.5F30BA5A@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi! I had an assignment to create wallpaper and I picked B7 to practice.
If anyone is interested, they're at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Zone/2544/blakegc.html
or directly to
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Zone/2544/wallpap.htm
Kalazar
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:20:59 EDT
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-ID: <45e6843b.2473962b@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Penny described Avon as: << Supercilious, self-absorbed, short-tempered,
savage, slick.>>
And then went on to add:
<< No wait, maybe that's Blake. >>
That's great! You certainly could use these words to describe either man.
I'm sure that is how they saw each other.
Here are my adjectives for Avon (not that I can match Penny's!)
Intelligent, clever, penetrating, judgmental, conscientious. Could these be
Blake too?
Gail
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:53:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: J MacQueen <jomacqueen@yahoo.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-ID: <19990519045303.9249.rocketmail@web906.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
--- VulcanXYZ@aol.com wrote:
> Intelligent, clever, penetrating, judgmental,
> conscientious. Could these be Blake too?
Intelligent and conscientious I'd agree with
immediately. Penetrating? Well, I'd have to make up my
mind as to whether or not Arlen would've fooled Blake
at the start, as well as at the end. Otherwise, fair
enough.
As for Avon, I'd substitute devious, and I'd have to
think about calling him penetrating and conscientious.
The latter, I'm afraid, seems to depend on what's in
it for him.
Regards
Joanne
_____________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:28:54 +0200
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: B7 List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] the movie
Message-ID: <39DCDDFD014ED21185C300104BB3F99F10FBD5@NL-ARN-MAIL01>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mistral wrote:
> Avon finally kills Servalan; if we view this as an AU, the
> Servalan fen should be able to handle it.
>
Grrrrr, watch it, girl, Servalan rules in any universe, alternate or not
:-).
Somebody actually engaging in a hobby: listening to music;
collecting real books, with pages; sketching; I'd like to see
that they know the value to the human being of relaxation.
The only two instances of this happening in the series that I can remember
both involve Cally: she took a moondisk as a pet and was listening to music
one time when she was on teleport duty. I would like to see what the others
would find relaxing.
Jacqueline
--------------------------------
End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #168
**************************************