From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #158 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/158 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 158 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] book & dystopia [B7L] Caption Contest Re: [B7L] Telemovie Re: [B7L] Re: Banning SF Re: [B7L] Re: Banning SF Drink (was Re: [B7L] Re:Plan B, O ye Muses of filking..) Re: [B7L] Re: Banning SF Re: [B7L] Re: Banning SF Re: [B7L] Re: Banning SF [B7L] Horizon News Bulletin [B7L] The Mummy and Vila ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:26:39 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] book & dystopia Message-ID: <000701be987c$7d4e1b30$0c01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sarah Berry said: >And I like Kevin's idea that the US is at a different stage to the UK/Europe, that US SF is getting darker. I think you could add Buffy and Xena into that 'dark' category with the X Files...even 'The Practice'...So what comes after the 'darkness'?< Easy! Kitsch. Una ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:50:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Clerc To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Caption Contest Message-ID: <19990507145041.7508.rocketmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The April responses are up and the May photos are ripe for captioning. This month's selections are from Gareth Thomas's appearances on Bergerac and Silver and are Not For The Squeamish. http://pages.cthome.net/CCurrent.html will take you right to the Caption Contest. Sue http://pages.cthome.net/Blakes7.html _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:08:43 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Telemovie Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu 06 May, Steve Rogerson wrote: > The current issue of SFX (52) contains the following snippet under the > heading "B7 newsflash": > > "Exciting news, just in as we were going to press! The BBC officially > contacted SFX to tell us that plans for a new Blake's 7 TV movie are > underway. A script has been written and a producer, Brian Lighthill, has > been appointed. More news on this, and an interview with Lighthill, in > the next issue of SFX." > > OK, it doesn't tell us anything new, but it is nice to see the news > getting round. Actually, it may be a new slant. This specifically links the BBC to the project which wasn't the case before. It makes it seem far more likely that it will go ahead. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Fanzines for Blake's 7 and many other fandoms, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 23:17:21 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Banning SF Message-ID: In message <199905061703_MC2-74BE-39EE@compuserve.com>, Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes >Julia wrote: >>And the original Modest Proposal is still getting >>that sort of treatment. Apparently it is taken at face >>value by a lot of earnest young Irish students who >>triumphantly proclaim it as an example of the >>wickedness of the English. > >Despite Swift being an Irish cleric? That's what's so funny about it :-) I occasionally wonder if the English enthusiasm for claiming the great non-English British writers (and before anyone bitches, Ireland was part of Britain for many such) has become so convincing that even the Irish forget where the Irish ones came from. IIRC, I've only encountered this particular example of lack of understanding of the concept "irony" in person once, but I don't think it's just an urban legend. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 19:34:04 GMT From: dixonm@access.mountain.net (Meredith Dixon) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Banning SF Message-ID: <373c3fab.147846467@access.mountain.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 6 May 1999 23:17:21 +0100, you wrote: >IIRC, I've only encountered this particular example of lack of >understanding of the concept "irony" in person once, but I don't think >it's just an urban legend. I've encountered it at second hand once. My mother was an English teacher, and one of her colleagues was quite horrified by "A Modest Proposal" and wondered why such an awful thing was in the textbook. -- Meredith Dixon Check out *Raven Days*, for victims and survivors of bullying. And for those who want to help. http://web.mountain.net/~dixonm/raven.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 20:24:39 +1000 From: Kathryn Andersen To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Drink (was Re: [B7L] Re:Plan B, O ye Muses of filking..) Message-ID: <19990507202439.A2479@welkin.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 08:51:34AM +1000, Sarah Berry wrote: > But Vila? Vila has a problem. There must be lots of stories about why he > drinks. What are the theories? He seems different from all the other crew > members in that he seems to me to be the only one who would drink to lose ot > control. Do you think anyone else would? Would they do anything > that involved losing control? oo-er... Mr-Uptight-in-black-leather definitely wouldn't. Jenna might do something on a dare, depending on who dared her. -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat \_.--.*/ | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 07:47:29 +1000 From: Kathryn Andersen To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Banning SF Message-ID: <19990508074729.B765@welkin.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 07:34:04PM +0000, Meredith Dixon wrote: > On Thu, 6 May 1999 23:17:21 +0100, you wrote: > > >IIRC, I've only encountered this particular example of lack of > >understanding of the concept "irony" in person once, but I don't think > >it's just an urban legend. > > I've encountered it at second hand once. My mother was an > English teacher, and one of her colleagues was quite horrified > by "A Modest Proposal" and wondered why such an awful thing > was in the textbook. Okay, for someone who learnt most of her history in Art class, what *is* this "Modest Proposal" thing? -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat \_.--.*/ | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 22:03:16 GMT From: dixonm@access.mountain.net (Meredith Dixon) To: Kathryn Andersen Cc: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Banning SF Message-ID: <37366232.156686592@access.mountain.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 8 May 1999 07:47:29 +1000, you wrote: >Okay, for someone who learnt most of her history in Art class, what >*is* this "Modest Proposal" thing? An essay, by Jonathan Swift. The proposal is that poverty-stricken Irish families should simultaneously improve their finances and reduce the number of children they have to provide for by fattening their newborn babies to sell as a luxury export in the meat department, like veal or lamb. -- Meredith Dixon Check out *Raven Days*, for victims and survivors of bullying. And for those who want to help. http://web.mountain.net/~dixonm/raven.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 17:15:45 -0500 From: Lisa Williams To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Banning SF Message-Id: <4.1.19990507171305.00c93740@mail.dallas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Kathryn Andersen wrote: >Okay, for someone who learnt most of her history in Art class, what >*is* this "Modest Proposal" thing? Essay by Jonathan Swift, 1729, full of sound practical advice and delicious recipes. You can find it online at , among other places. - Lisa _____________________________________________________________ Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@raytheon.com Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/ From Eroica With Love: http://lcw.simplenet.com/Eroica/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 20:38:05 EDT From: Mac4781@aol.com To: space-city@world.std.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Horizon News Bulletin Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Diane asked me to pass along the following news items: ======== Brian Lighthill confirms the movie will be set some years after the TV episode 'Blake' - 07/05/1999 Brian Lighthill has told Horizon that he and Paul Darrow independently hold the rights for this planned movie, with the full support and co-operation of Terry Nation's widow, Kate, and her family. They plan to make two 75 minute feature length episodes and after transmission hope to release it as a feature length video. The story incorporates Terry Nation's idea for a movie, which he had discussed with Paul Darrow over a number of years and a firm treatment (TV/movie-speak for a fully detailed story synopsis!) based on his idea has been finished. The story is set some years after the events depicted in the TV episode 'Blake', so fans need not fear that any original cast members will be pretending to be 20 years younger than they are!! Paul Darrow is to co-produce the movie and will also star in it as Avon. Though at this time no other 'original' Blake's 7 cast members have been signed up to reprise their roles, this does not mean that some of them will not be. We shall have to wait and see... The planned schedule for transmission is autumn 2000 or possibly spring 2001. Since this is +not+ a BBC production (the rights are owned by Brian and Paul independently of the BBC) it would not necessarily be transmitted on the BBC, but nothing has been ruled out at this time. Brian has promised to keep Horizon informed of developments and we look forward to hearing more soon. ========= Horizon Outing to see Steven Pacey in THE BIRTHDAY PARTY If anyone would like to join the Horizon outing to see "The Birthday Party," there's a group going on Wednesday 26th May (8pm) Top seat prices are £27.50 and £25 but Diane only needs another 4 people to get a group discount of £20 per seat for the best seats. They'll be going for an Italian meal before the show if anyone wants to join in with that too. Anyone interested should email Diane ASAP (and it must be by the end of next week if you want the cheap seats deal). diane@horizon.org.uk =============== There's lots more "new" news at the Horizon site, including information on purchasing "Soldiers of Love" with Michael Keating (he sings on the CD!). Also, Horizon just heard that Jacqueline Pearce has been signed up to join Michael in Part 2 of the series. Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 09:28:21 EDT From: Bizarro7@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] The Mummy and Vila Message-ID: <963e55b9.246595f5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We went to see debut of THE MUMMY yesterday, and I have to say I enjoyed it very much; apart from the spectacular special effects and action, it boasts terrific characters and great dialogue and overall writing. Since we are both big into Egyptology nowadays, I had to admire the detail the put into the props, sets, costumes and everything else, with a minimum of artistic license at the expense of the historical fact. It was a bit on the "ikky" side at times, but when your overall theme concerns mummification, that would be tough to avoid. What struck both of us was the tremendous similarity of one of the main characters to Vila. The resemblance isn't physical; but the female lead's brother is endearingly raffish, boozing, cowardly, hapless, a master pick-pocket, a thief, clever and can muster the pluck of a lion when push comes to shove. It made us positively nostalgic. I give it a thumbs up (but don't take the kids. There's no sex, but it's pretty violent). Leah -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #158 **************************************