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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 157
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] history
[B7L] Re: Mon of Iron etc
[B7L] lovely MK pic
Re: [B7L] Banning SF (was Re:Curious things in Star One)
[B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 1/6
[B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 2/6
[B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 3/6
[B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 4/6
[B7L] Telemovie
Re: [B7L] history
[B7L] Re: Banning SF
[B7L] URGENT to authors of B7 fanfic
[B7L] (no subject)
[B7L] Re:Plan B, O ye Muses of filking..
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 23:01:39 PDT
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Ellyne wrote:
>upset that the Sabbath was supposed to apply to everyone, even >slaves. But
>regular days off don't seem to have been a universal.
>Tacitus also thought it was appalling the Jews had outlawed >infanticide.
>Anyone think the Federation would have liked his stuff?
Yes, particularly if they could produce lots of people like him to sing
their praises.
Admittedly, I'm only familiar with Tacitus praising his father-in-law to the
skies, but I can see how even that would be a good start for the upper
echelons of the Federation (that's if they have in-laws to be praised, of
course. There must be some legal bits and pieces about long term
cohabitation in the Federation, even if it's only for ensuring the coffers
get the full measure of taxation).
We're brave, we're strong and we're good at strategy, would be the cry. But
then again, give Travis another legion and God only knows what would happen
- to the legion, let alone whoever he was attacking! <grin>
Regards
Joanne
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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 08:21:49 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Mon of Iron etc
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I've sent my response to Peter Borg's comments about the London bombings
to the spin list as we look likely to enter a prolonged discussion.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson
"What is it with you and holes?"
Xena to Gabrielle, Paradise Found
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 06:15:24 EDT
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: Blen@onyxnet.co.uk, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] lovely MK pic
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I was doing a bit of web browsing this morning and found a yummy picture of
Michael via a link at the Horizon web site. It's a poster from the CD SF
series that he's doing: Soldiers of Love.
http://www.ghostlands.demon.co.uk
Carol
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:54:09 EDT
From: Pherber@aol.com
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In a message dated 5/5/99 3:38:07 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk writes:
> And the original Modest Proposal is still getting that sort of
> treatment. Apparently it is taken at face value by a lot of earnest
> young Irish students who triumphantly proclaim it as an example of the
> wickedness of the English.
<smile> Ah, youth...would that I were still so confident that I know
*everything* as I was when I was eighteen! OTOH, youth is really *much* more
enjoyable as a spectator sport, or in a different species.
Nina
(Currently being amused by a wild-eyed maniac kitten.)
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:18:40 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 1/6
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Can you believe that it is a year since I initiated this? Well, I can. Thank
you to everyone for being so patient. Thanks to Nicola Collie, who fashioned
a long poking device which was wielded across hemispheres, and particularly
to Meredith Dixon, whose has been unrelenting in forcing this to a
conclusion, and has not taken any excuse as valid.
Although I have already posted some results, I am going to post them again,
since they were put up in January, and I'm guessing that people would like
to see all the results together. I hope this is OK.
The posts will hopefully show the different ways in which people expressed
their likes and dislikes, and the different understandings of the programmes
and what constitutes 'good' and 'bad' B7 which underpin these. One of the
most important aspects of any Q-study is that the people who participate
have the opportunity to say, 'No, that's wrong, you've completely
misinterpreted what I said!' So it's open season on all of this - if your
name appears in conjunction with a factor and you think I haven't quite hit
the nail on the head, comment away. It will make the whole study a lot more
interesting.
First of all, to remind people who have forgotten, and to fill in those who
have joined the list since, here's a run through of the task which people
were asked to carry out. You can visit the website which I set up to explain
the procedure to people at: www.sticklebrock.demon.co.uk/una/b7study.htm
I shall be putting the full results of this study on my q-research website:
www.q-research.connectfree.co.uk, so keep a look out.
Method
People were invited to print out a list of all 52 episode titles, and then
to carry out a sorting exercise, arranging the episode titles in a scale
from -5 (most disliked) to +5 (most liked). The spread of episodes was as
follows:
Rating: -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5
No. of episodes: 2 3 4 6 7 8 7 6 4 3 2
I also asked people to offer comments as to why they had rated particular
episodes highly or low down.
Analysis
Once a number of sorts had been received, they were correlated and
factor-analyzed. The resulting factors which emerge represent clusters of
people who have ranked the same episodes in essentially the same fashion,
i.e. that have a *common understanding* of why they like/dislike various
episodes. These factors are then interpreted by looking at the spread of
episodes both within and across factors, and by using the comments which
people had provided to indicate why they liked or disliked particular
episodes.
Results
I received 28 completed q-sorts. These sorts were factor analyzed, and 5
interpretable factors emerged. In the analysis which follows, I shall be
making a distinction between 'exemplifying' and 'non-exemplifying' sorts.
The first are those sorts which load significantly _on only one factor_,
i.e. these are responses from people who express a very distinct
understanding of what B7 means to them. 'Non-exemplifying sorts' were
responses sent from those people who significantly loaded on more than one
factor, i.e. whose understanding of B7 takes in a number of different
discourses. These people will see their names appear in conjunction with
several factors in the discussion below. Some people's sorts didn't load
significantly on any factor - they don't appear in the analysis that will
follow. If you completed a sort, and your name doesn't appear, this doesn't
mean that your sort was somehow 'invalid' or 'wrong'. Maybe you were
articulating something that neither the analysis nor I was able to pick up.
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:19:21 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 2/6
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Account 1: Beautiful Suffering
Those who contributed exemplifying sorts here were Sarah Thompson, Julie
Horner, Cylan, Susan-Beth, Jenni, and Mary O'Connor. Others who loaded
significantly but did not provide exemplifying sorts were Russ Massey, Jay,
Taima, Christine Lacey, and Deb Salyers.
The main object of interest for people who loaded significantly on this
factor is episodes which have a strong focus on character portrayal and
development. As one respondent put it:
'I think episodes that heavily feature your favourite character(s) are more
likely to appeal to you than ones in which they contribute to a lesser
degree... Episodes which feature a lot of special effects are not as good as
those that concentrate on the inter-reactions between the characters.'
In their responses, people would give the fact that a particular character
features prominently as the explanation for why they liked a certain
episode. Episodes such as 'Animals' were disliked in part 'because of the
un-canon like behaviour of characters'.
The episodes which were rated highly here were as follows:
+5 Aftermath; Rumours of Death
+4 Sarcophagus; Orbit; Blake
For many people this interest in 'character' has a more specific focus: the
Avon character. 'Rumours' is popular for being 'the peak of Avon
angst/torture'; 'Avon suffers beautifully'; and for the way in which it
reveals aspects of the his character: 'My favourite episodes involve some
glimpses into Avon's personality.' There is also, of course, a certain
amount of fondness for the Man in Black's physical attributes!, particularly
in 'Aftermath', which is liked for: 'Avon being beautiful' and having 'Avon
as a sex-object'.
This account is not primarily articulated around 'Avon worship': thus when
other characters figure prominently in episodes, it is also met with a great
deal of approval, for example, in City (+2); when all the characters can be
seen in action, as in 'Deathwatch' (+2), and when particular emphasis is
given to introducing new characters: 'Powerplay' (+3). Also, there are
approving noises when an under-used character features prominently, even if
these episodes don't rate overly highly, e.g. 'Time Squad' (0), does not
rank well, but provokes special comment: 'Jenna kicks ass!'.
The primacy placed on character means that episodes are even described in
the context of the character who features most prominently. As one
respondent put it: 'My favourite character is Avon, but 3 of my favourite
episodes are 'Sand' and 'Deathwatch', which are Tarrant episodes, and 'City'
, which is a Vila episode.'
The episodes which were considered poor were as follows:
-5 The Web; Animals
-4 Cygnus Alpha; Volcano; Stardrive
The aspects of these episodes which are disliked are bad plot, shoddy or
tacky sets or costumes, and SF cliches. Here are several respondents'
comments on various episodes (count 'em!) 'I loathe the Decimas, I loathe
the body in the bottle'; 'The idea of confusing a computer with riddles was
decades old, and the pulsating brain was laughable'; 'Travis in bandages';
'Brian Blessed overacting is not for me'; 'bad mohicans'; 'Og'. These are,
simply, not what constitutes good B7: 'The Web' and 'Animals' are disliked
'because of monsters - B7 never excelled at these.' As another respondent
summed it up: 'I'm more interested in character interactions than pitched
space battles vs. aliens.'
The responses give the impression that the whole programme is viewed as a
series of vignettes or character 'bites', which make most of the show
enjoyable: 'I only had 3 dislikes and 34 likes!' and 'I really like most of
the episodes and would really hate to do without any of them.' Several
people expressed the fact that they had found it difficult to rank the
episodes in such a forced way, and that they would have liked to rate many
episodes more highly: 'You really should have allowed more episodes in the
upper + zones!'
One respondent annotated nearly every episode with particular 'Avon moments'
; even episodes which were particularly disliked had good aspects. Speaking
about 'The Web', it was noted that 'there are a couple of nice B/A moments,
but not enough to make me watch this more than once a year.' Another
respondent would watch the exchanges between Vila and Avon in 'Gambit' and
'end up fast-forwarding through the rest because I don't like it.'
Moreover, exceptionally good character 'moments' can redeem an entire
episode. In the case of 'Orbit', a humdrum plot is saved by the final
confrontation: one respondent rated it highly 'because of Avon being driven
to the edge of his pragmatism against his affections - the first 40 minutes
are forgettable set-up.' And as another respondent summed it up: 'Orbit
ended up as one of my favourite episodes even though the story is basically
crap. I guess it's the 'Vila, where are you, Vila?' parts that put it in the
favourite column.'
This account therefore reflects an emphasis on scenes (as opposed to
episodes) which provide strong character portrayal, interaction, and
development, particularly the character of Avon. Intrusively bad plotting
and special effects are frowned upon, although this can be ignored if
situations are created in which the characters are able to interact in novel
and interesting ways.
Una
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:19:33 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] The final results of the ever-running Blake's 7 Q-study: 3/6
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Account 2: Boys Will Be Boys
Exemplifying sorts here were provided by Judith Proctor, Pat Fenech, and
Catherine Roussel. Non-exemplifying sorts were provided by Russ Massey,
Katharine Woods, Deb Salyers, Christine Lacey, and Harriet Monkhouse.
At first glance, this account seemed to share a great deal in common with
account 1. Comparable ratings included:
+5/+4 Rumours of Death (rated +5 by account 1)
+4 Star One and Terminal (both rated +3 by account 1)
-5 Animals (rated -5 by account 1)
-4 Stardrive (rated -4 by account 1)
Those respondents who loaded significantly on account 2 also praised
episodes in which strong characterization is prominent:
'I like excellent ensemble pieces where all the characters feel right.'
'['Rumours' has] superb characterization and scripting.'
'What sets the best episodes apart is terrific character interaction and
good dialogue (with lots of memorable lines).'
Again, in line with account 1, 'character moments' are referred to which are
redeem unpopular episodes, and poor depiction is criticized:
'Ultraworld' (-2): 'at least it has some good characterization of Tarrant.'
'The Harvest of Kairos' (-3): 'I like Jarvik, but I don't like the way
Servalan reacts to him - it's out of character for her.'
Beyond these broad-brush similarities, however, some interesting differences
emerge. Firstly, much more explicit prominence is given to Blake's
character. Typical comments included:
'My top two favourites were 'Terminal' and 'Blake' for similar reasons...
both are very intense, and Blake appeared in them both (I think I missed him
as much as Avon did).'
'I eventually chose 'Shadow' over 'Rumours' and 'Sarcophagus' because
'Shadow' has Blake in it and I really like Blake.' Here we can contrast the
rating for 'Sarcophagus' in account 1 (+4) and account 2 (+2). Although
'Sarcophagus' is a character piece, the lack of Blake is considered
something of a flaw.
'If you don't watch 'The Way Back' you will never understand Blake and you
will never understand what he is fighting against.' Again, the contrast
between ratings for 'The Way Back' in account 1 (-2) and account 2 (+5!) are
illuminating! For Avonophiles, the lack of the hero in the first episode is
a significant failing.
Account 2 rates several episodes very differently from all the other
accounts:
II I III IV V
Pressure Point +5/+4 0 +3 +1 +1
The Web +3 -5 -3 -3 -1
Orbit -3 +4 +3 +3 -2
Blake -2 +4 +5 +4 -1
'Pressure Point' receives the highest rating across any account, primarily
because of the prominence given to Blake. For a viewer whose main concern is
not necessarily Avon-angst, the pay-off in 'Orbit' is not worth the plot
machinations: 'This one would have been ranked higher if the plot wasn't
quite so contrived.'
In the light of this account being articulated by Blake fans, it is
surprising that the episode receives such a low rating. One explanation is
given: 'I think this is one of the best episodes but cannot bear to watch it
because of the final 5 minutes.'
Perhaps most noticeably, 'The Web' receives the only positive rating,
contrasting in particular with the mostly very negative ratings. This shows
another key part of this account: the primacy placed on the interactions
between Blake and Avon. Whereas the respondents in account 1 judged episodes
primarily in terms of the portrayal of Avon alone, respondents loading on
this account shift the focus to the depiction and development of the
Blake/Avon relationship. As one respondent put it: 'My favourite episodes
usually involve some great interactions between Avon and Blake.'
Typical responses to other episodes included:
On 'Star One' and 'Blake': 'The two easiest decisions. The twin climaxes of
B/A.'
On 'Terminal': 'principally for the few minutes of B/A.'
On 'Redemption': 'Beautiful setting out of B/A's battleground for the second
season.'
On 'Aftermath': 'It's nice to note Avon in concerned about Blake's
whereabouts.'
A clue to people's preference to 'The Web' is given: 'Because there is lots
of lovely interaction between Avon and Blake - enough to make any slash fan
drool.'
In summary, this account also places primacy on strong characterization
across the cast. 'Character moments' are also enjoyed, across all
characters. However, a great deal of emphasis is placed on Blake and, more
particularly, on the Blake/Avon relationship, which is seen as pivotal to
the series.
Una
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:59:04 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "Space City" <space-city@world.std.com>
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Account 3: A Little Bit of Politics
Exemplifying sorts here were provided by Ross Mallett, Iain Coleman, and
Louise Rutter. Non-exemplifying sorts were provided by Russ Massey, Taima,
and Christine Lacey.
The previous 2 accounts had placed emphasis on key moments, which made many
episodes enjoyable, and the whole show viewed as a series of vignettes, with
the episode format a loose container for these. Those articulating account 3
take the different view: episodes are seen primarily as self-contained
units, and rewarded for being good or bad on their own terms, with much less
emphasis on any over-arching continuity.
The criteria on which episodes are judged are straightforward enough -
script (both plot and dialogue), and performances from cast and guests
alike. Top-rating episodes are:
+5 Rumours of Death; Blake
+4 Gambit; Games; Gold
+3 Pressure Point; City at the Edge of the World; Star One; Orbit
'Blake': 'A wonderfully-written episode. The best ending to any SF series
ever.' And: 'Excellently-paced, full of tension and drama that draws you in
and involves you in the fate of these people.'
'Star One': 'The episode that got me hooked. The first scene on the
Liberator is perhaps the defining moment for the series.' And: 'Best blend
of action, suspense, characterization and plot.'
'Deathwatch': 'A solid, gripping tale with some cracking one-liners. A rare
instance of real SF in B7. Deeta's death is moving, Pacey gives two
excellent performances, and Jackie Pearce is sexy as hell. What more do you
want?'
Particular plot themes are specifically highlighted as being preferred -
these are plots which deal with the politics of the series:
'Rumours of Death': 'I was surprised I rated this so high... My gut feeling
is that Shrinker, the surveillance team and the return to politics make it
all worthwhile.'
'Seek-Locate-Destroy': 'I love the political wrangling and polite bitchiness
in Servalan's scenes.'
The cynicism of the show is specifically mentioned. As one respondent put
it: 'I like depressing! Though I tend to call it realism, being somewhat
cynical. In the real world, small groups of rebels who take on the military
government tend to die. It makes a nice refreshing change from the 'Star
Wars' ilk, and it's one of those things that makes B7 unique.' And: '['The
Way Back' and 'Space Fall'] set up the dystopian universe beautifully, and
have the right mixture of adventure and edgy, witty bickering I love about
B7.'
What constitutes a bad episode? 'Awful standby cliched SF plots, and done
badly at that. Suspension of disbelief is impossible, and the characters
that I love so much are acting out of character. A stunning lack of thought
and originality.' Low-rated episodes were:
-5 Ultraworld; Animals
-4 The Web; Dawn of the Gods; Headhunter
'Animals': 'Poor script. Flat production. Two utterly shit central
performances. No mercy.' And: 'Lousy acting, lousy plot, Justin stinks as a
character.'
'Ultraworld': '50 minutes of television with a few shit jokes.'
'Volcano': 'It starts. Fifty minutes later it ends. A guest star does
nothing.'
Again, the main criteria by which episodes are judged are plot, dialogue,
acting - and the *overall effect* of these when making up the whole episode.
An interesting tension emerges in rating 'Trial'. One respondent
articulating account 3 placed it at +4. Another respondent placed it at 0,
and its overall rating for this account averages out at +2. Comparing these
respondents' reasons for placing this episode illustrates the key components
of this account: the interest in good, politically-orientated plots; a
dislike of tackiness:
'I wanted to put this in +5 so much. I love seeing the view of the Fed
squaddies, the trial is genuinely tense, Croucher is good. The Blake and Zil
stuff is a bit tacky, which is the reason this was the one of my top 3 to be
relegated.' [Placed at +4]
'Placing 'Trial' is a simple case of conflict between two plot strands - the
trial scenes with all the political wrangling and infighting are
fascinating... The stuff on the planet with Blake and Zil is utter tripe. So
'Trial' ends up neutral when the whole thing is averaged out.' [Placed at 0]
These quotations show clearly the mechanism by which episodes are rated,
with points awarded for (preferably political) plot and good acting and
points deducted for bad effects - but the success of the *episode as a
whole* is what is ultimately judged.
Una
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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:57:13 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Telemovie
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The current issue of SFX (52) contains the following snippet under the
heading "B7 newsflash":
"Exciting news, just in as we were going to press! The BBC officially
contacted SFX to tell us that plans for a new Blake's 7 TV movie are
underway. A script has been written and a producer, Brian Lighthill, has
been appointed. More news on this, and an interview with Lighthill, in
the next issue of SFX."
OK, it doesn't tell us anything new, but it is nice to see the news
getting round.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson
"What is it with you and holes?"
Xena to Gabrielle, Paradise Found
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 07:48:46 +0100
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] history
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In message <19980314.161420.10310.0.Rilliara@juno.com>, Ellynne G.
<rilliara@juno.com> writes
>But
>regular days off don't seem to have been a universal.
I probably shouldn't have used the term Sabbath, since it implies
weekly, but there's almost always some recognition in the form of
official holidays that allow some relief eg the Saturnalia. This of
course doesn't apply to societies where slaves *were* specifically a
disposable item (as opposed to a domestic animal).
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:03:19 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Banning SF
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Julia wrote:
>And the original Modest Proposal is still getting
>that sort of treatment. Apparently it is taken at face
>value by a lot of earnest young Irish students who
>triumphantly proclaim it as an example of the
>wickedness of the English.
Despite Swift being an Irish cleric?
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:50:05 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, space-city@world.std.com
Subject: [B7L] URGENT to authors of B7 fanfic
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Would the following authors please e-mail me at Ashton7@aol.com IMMEDIATELY.
Thanks!
Hanneke
Alison (author of "That Word Beginning With 'C'")
The author who sent me Memories for Southern Comfort
Annie
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:47:21 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, space-city@world.std.com
Subject: [B7L] (no subject)
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Would the following authors please e-mail me at Ashton7@aol.com IMMEDIATELY.
Thanks!
Hanneke
Alison (author of "That Word Beginning With 'C'")
The author who sent me Memories for Southern Comfort
Annie
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 08:51:34 +1000
From: Sarah Berry <berrys@connexus.net.au>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re:Plan B, O ye Muses of filking..
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>>I just wonder why you're putting ice with your sauvignon...ah, you
>>mean blanc not sab cav
Joanne replied:
>To put it kindly, it's a somewhat strange filk subject for someone who
>doesn't drink (never been able to persuade myself otherwise, I'm afraid).
I don't want to get too personal or anything but...is it that you don't like the
taste, think it's wasted calories or money or you don't want the loss of
control? I felt a lot like this, but discovered that a nice glass of red can
last all evening and is full of flavour.
But Vila? Vila has a problem. There must be lots of stories about why he
drinks. What are the theories? He seems different from all the other crew
members in that he seems to me to be the only one who would drink to lose ot
control. Do you think anyone else would? Would they do anything that involved
losing control? oo-er...
Sarah Berry.
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