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> Date:          Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:43:31 +0100 (MET)
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> blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 311
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 	 Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> 	 Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> 	 Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> 	 [B7L] worst cast
> 	 [B7L] Breakfast with Blake & Co.
> 	 [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> 	 Re: [B7L] Gilbert and Servalan
> 	 Re: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> 	 Re: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> 	 Re: [B7L] worst cast
> 	 Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> 	 Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> 	 [B7L] Has anyone done a vid to this one?
> 	 Re: [B7L] worst cast
> 	 RE: [B7L] Travis has three faces
> 	 [B7L] BLAKES 7: THE MUSICAL MOTION PICTURE
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:52:21 +0100 (BST)
> From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1217115221-965Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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> 
> On Thu 17 Dec, Cam MacLeod wrote:
> 
> > I never saw Travis' interest in Kiera's past life as a come-on or sexual
> > at all. On the contrary to me it appears as deliberate cruelty, like a
> > person going up to someone else with a disability or disfigurement and
> > deliberately mocking it.
> > 
> > But this makes Travis all the more real to me. He is disfigured and is
> > bitter, so he lashes out cruelly at someone else who can't fight back.
> 
> That's an interesting idea, and quite believable.  The 'kick the cat' frame of
> mind.  He can't get at Blake, so he gets at the nearest available target.  Blake
> being so close by would have made him more inclined to feel that way.
> 
> Judith
> -- 
> http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
> 
> Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
> 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
> http://www.smof.com/redemption/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:49:51 +0100 (BST)
> From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1217114951-bbaRr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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> 
> On Wed 16 Dec, Penny Dreadful wrote:
> > Judith said:
> > 
> > >With a mutoid, a pick-up line would be irrelevent.  They are  conditioned to
> > >obey orders.  If he'd wanted sex, he would just have had to command it.  
> > 
> > I think it's more complicated than just "wanting sex". It's, um, wanting 
> > to get someone to want to have sex with one. Hmm. Otherwise the world of 
> > procreation would be much more straightforward than it is.
> 
>  Or to put it another way, he wanted human contact as much as sex.
> 
> > > Why did Travis prefer mutoids? Was it more that he felt rejected by normal
> > > people and thus turned to  mutoids because they weren't repelled by him?
> > 
> > I think he felt isolated from, and (psychologically) threatened by, 
> > normal people even when he was physically "normal". I think he felt more 
> > empathy for the mental processes of mutoids than he did for those of 
> > normal people.
> 
> Possibly.  But why?
> 
> > 
> > >And that brings us onto the question of why he refused plastic surgery  for
> > >his eye.  What do you think his motives were there?
> > 
> > I think he perceived himself as a machine even before he got shot up, 
> > and was glad of a chance to overtly display this inhumanity.
> 
> I think there may have been a display element as well.  'Look what Blake did to
> me'.  He claimed it was so that Blake wouldn't fail to recognise him, but in
> actual fact, I think he wanted other people to be aware of it too.
> 
> If he saw himself as a total machine, I don't think he would have been so
> desperate for revenge.
> 
> Judith
> 
> -- 
> http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
> 
> Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
> 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
> http://www.smof.com/redemption/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:41:59 -0800
> From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
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> Cam MacLeod wrote:
> > Penny Dreadful wrote: 
> > > >Why is Travis so interested in Keera?
> I thought he was testing her; trying to determine how much humanity she
> might have left.
> 
> > > I always saw that as a seriously inept come-on. A hostile, half-hearted
> > > pick-up line. 
> > I never saw Travis' interest in Kiera's past life as a come-on or sexual
> > at all. On the contrary to me it appears as deliberate cruelty...
> 
> Absolutely. He tells this poor, friendless, enslaved, leather-encased,
> probably sexless thing:
> You used to be very beautiful, very much admired.
> (i.e. you lost a great body)
> But I suppose you don't remember any of that?
> (i.e. you lost a good mind)
> 
> My curiosity: When she says it doesn't matter, how could it? Is she
> telling the truth, or only trying to show Travis that he can't hurt her
> with his barbs. How much humanity is left to a mutoid?
> > 
> > But this makes Travis all the more real to me. He is disfigured and is
> > bitter, so he lashes out cruelly at someone else who can't fight back.
> 
> He is very like Servalan in this respect. She attacks the old, the
> feeble, the sick, the blind. She runs from true warriors.
> 
> BTW, most know that Glynnis Barber played a mutoid in Project Avalon. Is
> there any fanfic regarding Soolin's possible relationship with this
> creature? Twin sister? Former state? Perhaps positioning Soolin as a
> reconditioned mutoid set to infiltrate the B7 crew? If so, why did she
> never act on her position to sabotoge the base?
> 
> Pat P
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:15:36 -0800
> From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] worst cast
> Message-ID: <36794A48.72ED@geocities.com>
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> A friend (not on this list) who is a film buff sent me this, so I am
> posting it to this list.
> 
> You wake up in a differnet universe. It seems like the one you knew.
> Stupid
> politics continue in Washington, Star Trek movies continue to insult SF
> fandom everywhere, but this universe is darker. Meaner. In this Universe
> in
> the year 1999, a studio strives to bring to the Big Screen....BLAKES 7,
> THE
> MOVIE. Only it has a nightmare cast! The worst actors for each role. The
> following is for seasons one-two ... Be Afraid, be Very Afraid ...
> 
> BLAKES 7 THE MOVIE
> Starring:
> 
> Roj Blake.........................William Shatner
> Kerr Avon.........................Steven Segal
> Jenna Stannis.....................Pamela Anderson Lee
> Cally.............................Madeline Stowe
> Villa Restal......................Adam Sandler
> Olag Gan..........................Sylvester Stalone
> ORAC..............................Arnold Schwartzenegger
> 
> Servalan..........................Roseanne Barr
> Tarvis(I).........................Bruce Willis
> Travis(II)........................Keanu Reeves
> 
> Crew:
> Directed by.......................Micheal Bay (The Rock & Armegeddon)
> Written by........................Branon Braga (ST) & Micheal Piller
> (ST)
> Music by..........................John Carpenter
> 
> I love playing these games. I know fans enjoying casting who would be
> perfect for a B7 film, I like casting who would be the worst actor for
> the
> part. hehehhe
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:32:37 -0800
> From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake & Co.
> Message-ID: <36794E45.817@geocities.com>
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> oops! I left out fearless leader, so here goes again:
> What does the crew eat for breakfast?
> Several posters wrote:
> ha he ho (to which I add my own)
>  
> Servalan:  incompetent underlings
>  
> Travis:  Blake's guts
> 
> Blake: Wheaties, breakfast of champions
>  
> Avon: vinegar & lemon juice (most effective way to set a day long scowl)
>  
> Gan:  Panchakes, waffles, bacon, eggs, hash browns, etc., etc., etc.,
> etc.
>  
> Cally:  Apparently nothing  :-D
>  
> Vila:  Beer and twinkies
>  
> Jenna: elegant crepes suzettes 
> 
> Tarrant: Trix (are for kids)
> 
> Dayna: roasted rack of Sarran
> 
> Soolin: ICEd tea and lemon TARTs
> 
> Zen: lava lamps
> 
> Orac: bytes of Bill Gates' biographies
> 
> Slave: crow
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:15:41 PST
> From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> Message-ID: <19981217221542.4306.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> 
> Kathryn said: >Gan would be an eggs-and-bacon-on-toast sort of >person.
> 
> Given that Gan has to keep up that enormous strength of his, I suggest 
> the full English breakfast you see the gentry consuming in Agatha 
> Christie adaptations and the like. You know the sort of thing - bacon 
> and eggs and toast and kippers and kidneys and cooked tomatoes and 
> (waffle on ad nauseam).
> 
> I think you are right about Vila, but I'm sure he'd be glued to the 
> television commercials to see what little knick-knack was being offered 
> by which brand this week.<grin> He'd probably eat Happy Meals at 
> McDonalds, and other little kids' meals at other fast food places for 
> the same reason.
> 
> Cally's muesli blend and fresh fruit is the summer menu, or so I 
> presume. She'd probably be happy to eat a small bowl of porridge in 
> winter.
> 
> Judith said: >Travis - Blake's guts
> 
> <laugh> Travis must have more imagination than I've previously given him 
> credit for, in that case.
> 
> On another, vaguely B7 related matter: anyone in Sydney who likes 
> Barbara Paul's Marian Larch mysteries? "Full Frontal Murder" is 
> available at Abbey's in York Street. Or, at least, it was last night 
> (Thursday night) - there were two copies on the shelf, and I bought one 
> <smile> because Marian is one of those fictional detectives I happen to 
> like (like Wexford, or Barnaby, or Alleyn, or Bone, or Thanet - a female 
> detective makes a nice change). Curt "by name and nature" Holland I 
> could do without, actually, but if the author likes him a lot, as she 
> seems to...<grin>
> 
> Regards
> Joanne
> 
> The North wind is tossing the leaves, the red dust is over the town
> The sparrows are under the eaves, and the grass in the paddock is brown
> As we lift up our voices and sing to the Christ child the heavenly king
> --an Australian Christmas carol
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:44:22 -0000
> From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Gilbert and Servalan
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> On a frontier planet a little space rat
> Sang 'Vila, dear Vila, dear Vila.'
> I said to her, 'Punky girl, why are you sat
> Singing Vila, dear Vila, dear Vila?
> Are you jacked up on shadow, and out of your head?
> Or a bait for a trap to see me end up dead?'
> 'Oh no,' she replied, 'I would take you to bed, 
> Oh Vila, dear Vila, dear Vila.'
> 
> She stripped off her leathers and pitched her voice higher, 
> Crying 'Vila, Oh Vila, Oh Vila.
> I've got something for you that I know you desire,
> Oh Vila, Oh Vila, OH VILA!'
> I asked, 'Is it soma?' for that sounded fine.
> 'Or maybe a bottle of Dorian's wine?'
> She stalked off in a huff with a two-fingered sign
> Sighing 'Vila, queer Vila, queer Vila...'
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:59:00 -0000
> From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co.
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> >Cally's muesli blend and fresh fruit is the summer menu, or so I
> >presume. She'd probably be happy to eat a small bowl of porridge in
> >winter.
> 
> 
> Wouldn't they all eat porridge, given the number of fans who are desperate
> to see our heroes get their oats?
> 
> Neil
> 
> "And so the Sword That Was Broken was forged anew, and Aragorn did rename it
> as Anduriglimiglimoglirompompom, but Elrond said that was silly."
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 05:36:10 -0000
> From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co.
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> >Marian is one of those fictional detectives I happen to
> >like (like Wexford, or Barnaby, or Alleyn, or Bone, or Thanet - a female
> >detective makes a nice change).
> 
> Thanet?  Thanet!!??  Thanet is a grotty little parcel of land sitting like a
> boil on the pimply backside of Kent.  I know it's a dump because I live in
> it.
> 
> And when it comes to female detectives, give me Kay Scarpetta any day.
> 
> Neil
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 05:29:16 -0000
> From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] worst cast
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> Oh come on, Pat, is that the best you can do?
> 
> BLAKES 7: THE MOVIE
> Starring:
> 
> Roj Blake - Rick Moranis
> Kerr Avon - Steve Martin
> Cally - Ruby Wax
> Jenna Stannis - Valerie Perrine
> Del Tarrant - David Hasselhoff
> Vila Restal - Leonardo DiCapprio
> Servalan - Elizabeth Taylor
> Travis - Quentin Tarantino
> 
>  SPECIAL GUEST ROLE
> Justin - Peter Byrne
> 
> Directed by - Sam Peckinpah
> Written by - whoever did the screenplay for 'Copycat' (or 'Judge Dredd')
> Music by - The Dubliners
> Theme song sung by - Mariah Carey
> 
> Any more for any more?
> 
> Neil
> 
> "Do anything you like to the girl but LET ME GO!"
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:34:57 -0000
> From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
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> Judith wrote
> >Why did Travis prefer mutoids?  Was it simply because they were well
> trained and
> >never questioned orders or was there more to it than that?  I think he once
> >claimed that he felt part mutoid himself because of his cybernetic arm, but
> I
> >think there was a bit more to it than that.
> >
> >Was it more that he felt rejected by normal people and thus turned to
> mutoids
> >because they weren't repelled by him?
> >
> >And that brings us onto the question of why he refused plastic surgery for
> his
> >eye.  What do you think his motives were there?  I think it was a bit more
> >complex than the reason he gave Servalan.
> 
> 
> I seem to recall writing in one of those Stories That Never Get Finished,
> "In the ranks of the modified, the half-prosthetic man might still consider
> himself human" or something like that.  I don't see Travis as feeling
> rejected by normal people, more a case of him rejecting them on account of
> his disfigurement.  Hiding it with cosmetic surgery would be to deny that it
> had ever happened, a deceit he could not countenance.  (I see Travis as an
> extremely honest man in some respects - he might freely resort to subterfuge
> to achieve his goals, but would have a total disdain of needless
> fripperies).  Caught between his honesty and self-revulsion, he could turn
> the obvious visibility of his disfigurement into a focal point for his
> hatred of the man he deemed responsible (ie; Blake). Not necessarily a
> logical train of thought for a military man who could reasonably expect to
> be mutilated in the course of duty, but whoever said Travis ought to be
> logical?
> 
> Neil
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:04:09 PST
> From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> Message-ID: <19981218100410.29767.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> Judith said:
> 
> > Or to put it another way, he wanted human contact as much as sex.
> 
> Okay. I assume sex is an undercurrent in any male/female interaction, 
> until proven otherwise. And maybe I read his behaviour as *flirtatious* 
> (in a deranged sort of way) because of the entire "compare and contrast" 
> theme of the episode - Travis and the mutoid as Evil Blake and Evil 
> Jenna.
> 
> >> I think he felt isolated from, and (psychologically) threatened by, 
> >> normal people even when he was physically "normal". I think he felt 
> more 
> >> empathy for the mental processes of mutoids than he did for those of 
> >> normal people.
> >
> >Possibly.  But why?
> 
> Because normal people's minds tend to be convoluted conglomerations of 
> wants and fears and dreams (of varying grandiosity levels) of wealth, 
> love, power, pleasure; not to mention maintenance of various 
> social/familial relationships. Travis doesn't appear to suffer from such 
> complications, and he can't understand people who do. For instance he 
> always seems surprised to see what's going on in Servalan's head, and he 
> does not like to be surprised. Mutoids, on the other hand, don't have 
> Ulterior Motives. Travis can predict their behaviour, more or less, they 
> probably won't surprise him.
> 
> >If he saw himself as a total machine, I don't think he would have been 
> so
> >desperate for revenge.
> 
> He could *see* himself as a machine without *being* a machine, or acting 
> like one. Wishful thinking. He would *like* to be a machine; he would 
> like the universe to be clockwork.
> 
> -- Penny "Pocket Freud" Dreadful
> 
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:19:22 -0600 (CST)
> From: Susan.Moore@uni.edu
> To: BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] Has anyone done a vid to this one?
> Message-id: <01J5H7V8O98Y8WWCEB@uni.edu>
> 
> Every time I hear "Learning to Fly" by Pink Floyd, I think about Tarrant.  Does
> anyone know if someone's done a vid for it?
> 
> The lyrics (from the Lyrics Server, so they may not be 100 percent accurate):
> 
> Learning To Fly
> 
> Into the distance, a ribbon of black
> Stretched to the point of no turning back
> A flight of fancy on a windswept field
> Standing alone my senses reeled
> A fatal attraction holding me fast, how
> Can I escape this irresistible grasp?
> 
> Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies
> Tongue-tied and twisted Just an earth-bound misfit, I
> 
> Ice is forming on the tips of my wings
> Unheeded warnings, I thought I thought of everything
> No navigator to guide my way home
> Unladened, empty and turned to stone
> 
> A soul in tension that's learning to fly
> Condition grounded but determined to try
> Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies
> Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I
> 
> Above the planet on a wing and a prayer,
> My grubby halo, a vapour trail in the empty air,
> Across the clouds I see my shadow fly
> Out of the corner of my watering eye
> A dream unthreatened by the morning light
> Could blow this soul right through the roof of the night
> 
> There's no sensation to compare with this
> Suspended animation, A state of bliss
> Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies
> Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I
> 
> From the album: A momentary lapse of reason
> 
> Susan M.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:23:53 -0800
> From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] worst cast
> Message-ID: <367A8199.4C3F@geocities.com>
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> Neil Faulkner wrote:
> > Oh come on, Pat, is that the best you can do?
> I didn't do that, but passed on a friend's list. I'm not much of a movie
> buff, but I'll do my best:
> (these celebrities are old - but then so am I!)
> 
> > BLAKES 7: THE MOVIE
> > Starring:
> > 
> > Roj Blake - Sylvester Stallone
> > Kerr Avon - Woody Allen
> > Cally - Goldie Hawn
> > Jenna Stannis - Bette Middler
> > Del Tarrant - Clint Eastwood
> > Vila Restal - O.J. Simpson
> > Servalan - Carol Burnett
> > Travis - Oprah Winfrey
> > 
> >  SPECIAL GUEST ROLE
> > 
> > Directed by - Newt Gingrich
> > Written by - whoever did the screenplay for Time Bandits
> > Music by - Devo
> > Theme song sung by - Tiny Tim
> 
> Psychotic Pat P
> PS. Neil, I've greatly enjoyed your long essays on a wide range of B7
> subjects that have been posted here.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:37:59 +0100 (BST)
> From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: RE: [B7L] Travis has three faces
> Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1218113759-bc8Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
> 
> On Thu 17 Dec, Jacqueline Thijsen wrote:
> > In a great story, Judith wrote:
> > 
> > > Blake, who had seen only the eyepatch that distinguished Travis so strongly,
> > > and never wondered about the >man behind it.
> > 
> > I'm sorry, Judith, but this is a weak part in your otherwise beautiful story.
> > Blake is the one who shot Travis up so that the eyepatch had to be put there.
> > The next time he sees a Travis, it is (according to your story) already the
> > fake T ravis. The eyepatch would be just as new to Blake as the rest of the
> > face, and would t herefore not cause him to mix up the fake Travis with the
> > real one.
> 
> Actually, I see 'Weapon' as the weak point.
> 
> I don't think Blake necessarily remembered Travis that clearly.  He'd seen him
> in a combat situation, but if they'd known one another well, this
> conversation might have been different.
> 
>  SERVALAN:  But why did you never let the surgeons finish the job?
>   TRAVIS:  [Chuckles] What are you suggesting, cosmetic surgery? I'm a
>            field officer, not one of your decorative staff men.
>  SERVALAN:  You're certainly not decorative.
>   TRAVIS:  You find it repulsive?
>  SERVALAN:  I find it ... unpleasing.
>   TRAVIS:  But memorable. You wouldn't mistake me for anyone else.
>  SERVALAN:  Hardly.
>    TRAVIS:  Mm. Neither will Blake. Even after all this time, he'll know
>            me, and remember what happened at our first meeting.
>            
>            
> Blake believed that he would recognise Travis again, but you'd be surprised just
> how bad people can be at recognising faces that they've only seen for a short
> time (especially after they've had a memory erase).  Travis is giving Blake a
> key to recognise him by as Blake knows he shot Travis in the face.
> 
> My story really falls down where Blake meets Brian Croucher's Travis in Weapon. 
> UNless he just figured that Travis had had plastic surgery but they had been
> unable to fix his eye.  After all, a man with an eyepatch, standing next to
> Servalan and obviously wanting to kill Blake does tend to strongly suggest an
> identity.  It's still the weakest point though.
> 
> Judith
> -- 
> http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
> 
> Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
> 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
> http://www.smof.com/redemption/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:42:14 -0600
> From: Reuben Herfindahl <rherf@tursso.com>
> To: "'BL7'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] BLAKES 7: THE MUSICAL MOTION PICTURE
> Message-ID: <B113A02CF9E0D011992F00805FB4EB7515DB2E@STPNT2>
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> 
> BLAKES 7: THE MUSICAL MOTION PICTURE
> Starring:
> 
> Roj Blake - The guy from Lord of the Dance
> Kerr Avon - David Warner
> Cally - Claudia Christian
> Jenna Stannis - Shelly Long
> Gan- Jessie "The Mind" Ventura
> Vila Restal - Johnny Dep
> Servalan - Debora Watling
> Travis - George Cloony
> Orac-Voice of Majel Barret
> 
> 
> Directed by - William Shatner
> Written by - Terrance Dicks
> Music by - The B52's
> Theme song sung by - Boys2Men
> 
> 
> Idea by Reuben Herfindahl
> (tee-hee)
> 
> Reuben
> http://www.reuben.net/blake/
> 
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> End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #311
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> 
Dita, President and Supreme Commander of the Terran Federation.

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