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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 133
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Re: Blood feuds
Re: [B7L] B7 telemovie
Re: [B7L] B7 telemovie
Re: [B7L] B7 telemovie
[B7L] Movie news
Re: [B7L] Re: Blood feuds
[B7L] Got something to say about the film?
Re: [B7L] B7 telemovie
Re: [B7L] re:the synedton experiment
Re: [B7L] B7 telemovie
[B7L] Re: Attack of the Space Bimbos (was Sleazy Vila)
Re: [B7L] Re: Blood feuds
Re: OT: BACs (was Re: [B7L] Worst Openings)
[B7L] Re: Brian Lighthill Chat
Re: [B7L] B7 telemovie
Re: [B7L] Re: Brian Lighthill Chat
[B7L] Re: Attack of the Space Bimbos (was Sleazy Vila)
[B7L] Re: Sleazy Vila
[B7L] Re:B7 telemovie
Re: [B7L] Sleazy Vila
[B7L] sleazy Vila
[B7L] Telemovie
Re: [B7L] Telemovie
Re: [B7L] Telemovie
Re: [B7L] sleazy Vila
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:21:48 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Blood feuds
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On Wed 14 Apr, Murray Smith wrote:
> In 'Death-Watch' we see Dayna forcibly stopping the medical
> examination
> of Vinni after the contest, and holding Servalan at gunpoint. This was held
> to be a 'minor technical violation' of the Convention, and she was banned
> from the planet; because, according to Avon, 'There is a blood feud between
> Dayna and Servalan. But Dayna did not declare a challenge and she did not
> kill Servalan either'.
> All this made me think. There are, no doubt, plenty of people who
> would qualify in terms of having a blood feud against Servalan; so why
> wouldn't _they_ in person, or via their champions, challenge her? One could
> write a very interesting story of Servalan having to deal with, in person
> or via her champion, all these challengers. Even if she won, it would take
> a huge amount of time, and would humiliate her politically, allowing her to
> be deposed. What does anyone think?
I think the blood feud would only apply on Teal or Vandor where duels were an
accepted part of life. In the Federation, they'd probably be illegal.
Judith
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:30:28 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 telemovie
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On Wed 14 Apr, Julie Horner wrote:
> Just come from the Chat room where Brian Lighthill announced
> he is working on a Blakes 7 telemovie with Paul Darrow.
For some reason, this leaves me petrified rather than happy. Maybe I'll relax
when we know more.
I wonder who's writing the script? <gloom>
Judith
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:08:19 +0100
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "Julie Horner" <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com>,
<blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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> From: Julie Horner <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] B7 telemovie
> Date: 14 April 1999 14:22
>
> Just come from the Chat room where Brian Lighthill announced
> he is working on a Blakes 7 telemovie with Paul Darrow.
Just don't let Barry ****ing Letts write it...
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:33:38 +0100
From: "Julie Horner" <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 telemovie
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dangermouse <master@sol.co.uk>
To: Julie Horner <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com>;
blakes7@lysator.liu.se <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 telemovie
>>Julie Horner
>> Date: 14 April 1999 14:22
>>
>> Just come from the Chat room where Brian Lighthill announced
>> he is working on a Blakes 7 telemovie with Paul Darrow.
>
>Just don't let Barry ****ing Letts write it...
>
I don't think he said who was writing it. He said it was based on
an idea Terry Nation had before he died.
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Borg <peter_borg@yahoo.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Movie news
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Keep updated at
http://www.horizon.org.uk/movie
Peter.
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:34:14 +0100
From: Murray Smith <mjsmith@tcd.ie>
To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Blood feuds
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>>On Wed 14 Apr, Murray Smith wrote:
>>> In 'Death-Watch' we see Dayna forcibly stopping the medical
>>> examination
>>> of Vinni after the contest, and holding Servalan at gunpoint. This was held
>>> to be a 'minor technical violation' of the Convention, and she was banned
>>> from the planet; because, according to Avon, 'There is a blood feud between
>>> Dayna and Servalan. But Dayna did not declare a challenge and she did not
>>> kill Servalan either'.
>>> All this made me think. There are, no doubt, plenty of people who
>>> would qualify in terms of having a blood feud against Servalan; so why
>>> wouldn't _they_ in person, or via their champions, challenge her? One could
>>> write a very interesting story of Servalan having to deal with, in person
>>> or via her champion, all these challengers. Even if she won, it would take
>>> a huge amount of time, and would humiliate her politically, allowing her to
>>> be deposed. What does anyone think?
>>
>>I think the blood feud would only apply on Teal or Vandor where duels were an
>>accepted part of life. In the Federation, they'd probably be illegal.
>>
>>Judith
I agree that the blood feud would only apply on Teal and Vandor,
but as long as Servalan was there; and if the laws of both planets allowed
non-citizens to participate in blood feuds, what I described above would
still work. For example, what if the B7 crew organised things such that
Dayna and some others who lost relatives at the hands of Servalan are
teleported down at an appropriate moment? This would also allow time for
others to issue their challenges. Also, I thought that at the end of
'Death-Watch', after all has been resolved, Dayna could still have gone
back and challenged Servalan.
Murray
P.S. The whole idea on blood feuds came to me after thinking of the
position of Augusto Pinochet in the UK, facing possible extradition to
Spain.
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:55:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Borg <peter_borg@yahoo.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Got something to say about the film?
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Let everyone know, join the discussion at
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:03:15 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Judith Proctor wrote:
> On Wed 14 Apr, Julie Horner wrote:
> > Just come from the Chat room where Brian Lighthill announced
> > he is working on a Blakes 7 telemovie with Paul Darrow.
>
> For some reason, this leaves me petrified rather than happy. Maybe I'll relax
> when we know more.
>
> I wonder who's writing the script? <gloom>
I've just gone and read the Beeb backchat from yesterday (for some reason I
couldn't get logged into the chatroom at the time) and I have to say that I am
more or less sickened by what I read. It looks very much as if it will be a PGP
that adheres to Paul Darrow's view of Avon as a murderous bastard -- hardly
surprising with him producing and starring. I must say that I'm surprised though,
that the fans haven't been able to sort him out in twenty years -- must be where
Avon gets his stubbornness -- or is he just having us all on? I think I'm going to
be ill. (And if that sounds like a slam at Paul Darrow it's not meant as one.)
"I wish I was a cloud of agitated atoms" Mistral
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:25:28 +0000 (GMT)
From: Una McCormack <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] re:the synedton experiment
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Sarah Berry asked:
>I've just recieved the CD - now I'm too 'scared' to listento it! Tell me
>there's good stuff on it too.
Steven Pacey is brilliant - well worth listening to to CD for. It is,
after all, only 60 minutes!
Una
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:25:55 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
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I must agree with Mistral and Judith. If it turns out to be the case that the
telemovie is scripted off of Paul Darrow's (as opposed to Terry Nation's)
image of Avon, I wouldn't view this telefilm. I wouldn't touch it with a
ten-foot pole, lest it spoil my mental image of both the character as he
appeared on the series, or the B7 universe as I knew and loved it. The man
writes more poorly and characterizes Avon worse than some of the worst fan
fiction I've ever laid eyes on, and I would not regard this telemovie, if
ever made, as canon.
What a shame, to take this tack when there were so many better options. I
hope it's not true!
Leah
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:40:01 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Attack of the Space Bimbos (was Sleazy Vila)
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Calle wrote, re Cherryh's Vanye:
>He's far too unsure and indecisive to be admirable, though.
What about empathising, then?
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 05:04:01 PDT
From: "Stephen Date" <stephendate@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Murray wrote:
> I agree that the blood feud would only apply on Teal and
Vandor,
>but as long as Servalan was there; and if the laws of both planets
allowed
>non-citizens to participate in blood feuds, what I described above
would
>still work. For example, what if the B7 crew organised things such
that
>Dayna and some others who lost relatives at the hands of Servalan are
>teleported down at an appropriate moment? This would also allow time
for
>others to issue their challenges. Also, I thought that at the end of
>'Death-Watch', after all has been resolved, Dayna could still have
gone
>back and challenged Servalan.
>
I think Servalan had diplomatic immunity as a neutral arbiter. After
all, no-one would have taken the job if, after the duel, there was
any danger of someone coming up to them and saying "Thanks for being
Neutral Arbiter. By the way there are 20 people out there who want to
fight a duel with you. We've booked the first one in at 9.00
tomorrow".
I got the impression that Dayna's violation was a minor one because
she a) Didn't kill anyone and b) The blood feud was a mitigating
factor. If there hadn't been a blood feud, or if she'd offed Servalan
they'd have thrown the book at her.
However, the enterprising writer of fan-fic need not despair. After
all Teal and Vandor now have no need or desire to protect Servalan.
Wouldn't it be amusing if she was called into her superior's office
one morning.
"Ah, Sleer, good to see you, sit down, no need to stand on ceremony.
Now the President is very impressed with your pacification campaign,
very impressed indeed. You'll be pleased to hear that he's given you
a new job. Ambassador to Vandor. You'll like that....Sleer,
Sleer....Mutoid, quickly, I think she's fainted...."
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:07:57 EDT
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
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Subject: Re: OT: BACs (was Re: [B7L] Worst Openings)
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Mistral wrote:
<< Vila would undoubtedly be a Pentecostal or other charismatic type. And he
would do an awful lot of backsliding and repenting, backsliding and
repenting, backsliding and repenting....... >
and Stephen replied:
< ....and the Church he belonged to would have a mysterious recurring
problem, whereby the communion wine would keep vanishing. >>
Yeah, right! Not to mention the disappearing collection plate.
Gail
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:24:22 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:space-city@world.std.com" <space-city@world.std.com>,
"Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Brian Lighthill Chat
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Having been informed about the online chat with Brian Lighthill, I
dutifully turned up yesterday. I have to say that I found the experience
quite bewildering. I'd only taken part in one forum before, and that was
quite different - it was moderated, so the moderator was able to ensure
that the discussion took some sort of coherent form, and also those present
were able to communicate with each other privately while the main
discussion was going on.
In this case, I arrived a few minutes late (it took me a long while to get
the registration right) and found a rather weird multi-conversation going
on, mostly on the lines of "Wow! Great! What do you think about Richard
and Judy [some chatshow hosts] splitting up?" Connection with B7 seemed
optional...
I had been expecting a discussion about the recent radio play, but Brian
Lighthill and the BBC person were naturally more interested in pushing the
news of a planned telemovie. From what I could make out, this is an
independent production (so unless they've got the money sewn up, I don't
know how definite it is) and Paul Darrow is an associate
something-or-other.
Occasionally someone said something vaguely relevant and intelligent, but
it was obvious that a lot of those present kept losing their connection, so
eventually I thought "oh hell, maybe I'd better make an attempt to talk."
So I tried to make some points about the radio play, mention desirability
of involving Chris Boucher, Gareth Thomas etc. (Think I managed two CBs,
three GTs.) This was where I really missed not being able to post directly
to the few list members I spotted as present, something on the lines of
"help, kick me if I'm making a complete mess of this." I felt I was coming
over as unpleasantly aggressive and critical - whenever I said something
like "I don't think Avon actually took pleasure in inflicting pain on
others", Brian Lighthill said (quite politely) "I don't agree with you and
neither does Paul Darrow." As Carol said, I did query Paul's accuracy on
this (I didn't actually say that he isn't an expert on Avon, I said
something like "he's better on what Avon likes to think he thinks than on
what he really does think.") The closest we came to agreement was when BL
admitted that Syndeton might have been a slightly better script than
Sevenfold.
I was left feeling very gloomy - it sounds to me as if they think they've
got it sorted now and will steam on in the same direction whatever our
protests. Several of us asked for an email address to which we could send
in more detailed comments, but we weren't given one while I was there.
I would like to thank Julie for making several sensible interventions - I
felt a lot less lonely and out of my depth when I saw her chipping in. I
don't think I'll attend a chat again, though - I found it too chaotic a
forum to hold any meaningful conversation.
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:49:30 PDT
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 telemovie
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>> From: Julie Horner <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com>
>> Just come from the Chat room where Brian Lighthill announced
>> he is working on a Blakes 7 telemovie with Paul Darrow.
>Just don't let Barry ****ing Letts write it...
Having read what others have had to say now, it does sound, well, "unfortunate" may the kindest way of putting it. <sympathetic grimace> Julia, it might be time to beat your head against the keyboard again, as you did when the present radio programme was announced last year.
However, maybe we should be thanking our lucky stars that there is no news of the team who did the Dr Who telemovie being involved - glorious sets, but a plot and script to make some fans wail and gnash their teeth (yes, I know, there's 100% likelihood of all of us wailing and gnashing our teeth if this goes ahead along the lines Harriet reported and Leah protested against).
Does Lighthill think we ought to be so grateful for any B7 we can get that we are not allowed to comment, or even to suggest? No, I'm not angry, just puzzled. If this is the case, I suggest it's being mooted for the wrong reasons - someone's (anyone's, I don't know!) ego, rather than the desire to make good television.
Wonderingly
Joanne
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:30:10 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Harriet Monkhouse wrote:
> I had been expecting a discussion about the recent radio play, but Brian
> Lighthill and the BBC person were naturally more interested in pushing the
> news of a planned telemovie.
Having read both Harriet's post and the Beeb backchat -- it
looks like they've cut out quite a bit of what was said. Yes, I'd
say this was pretty much an attempt to push the telemovie. I can
understand if the Beeb and Lighthill don't understand or care what
the fans think, but Darrow? It's enough to make one join the
Tarrant Nostra.
Serve them all right if we tune out en masse -- but of course we
won't; we'll protest loud and long, and then watch with the same
horrified fascination of looky-loos at a particularly gruesome traffic
accident. Worse yet, new fans will be generated with the idea
that the new telemovie is actually representative of B7.
Somebody hand me the adrenaline and soma. Or better yet, a
neutron blaster and the directions to Brian Lighthill's office.
Mad-as-Hell Mistral
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"One, not three!!!"-- Mistral
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:33:39 +1000
From: Sarah Berry <berrys@connexus.apana.org.au>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Attack of the Space Bimbos (was Sleazy Vila)
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Mistral wrote:
> > Morgaine is frequently cited as a strong female character in fantasy
Calle replied:
> Which has always fascinated me somewhat. She's certainly strong, but
> she's also a paranoid psychopath. I do know a few women who'd like her
> as a role model, but they're not many.
Not read the books. Some consider Avon a paranoid psychopath, or something
close at times, and don't most fans find him strong and admirable? Is it really
only 'strong' characteristics in male and beauty in female characters that 'we'
admire? Sarah Berry.
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:01:07 +1000
From: Sarah Berry <berrys@connexus.apana.org.au>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Sleazy Vila
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Ellynne asked:
>However, what other kind
>of people are freedom fighters or outlaws normally looking for?
Even when I wrote about the general similarity of Cally, Dayna and Soolin's
origins I was wondering about that. Other rebel groups seemed to be a lot
bigger than the Liberator/Scorpio crew and I'm sure that they included people
from every background and every discipline, after all the toilets still need
cleaning. For instance, what if Lauren, and not Dayna, had survived to come
aboard the Liberator? It would have been much more interesting to watch her
move from unskilled innocent to skilled whatever (providing the writing was
there).
Sarah Berry
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:41:36 +1000
From: Sarah Berry <berrys@connexus.apana.org.au>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re:B7 telemovie
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Julia Jones wrote:
> Just come from the Chat room where Brian Lighthill announced
> he is working on a Blakes 7 telemovie with Paul Darrow.
Interesting, maybe we should lobby Brian that Barry Letts should write it
rather than Paul Dorrow? ;-)
Sarah
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:48:44 -0700
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: B7 Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Sleazy Vila
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AdamWho@aol.com wrote:
(the rest of the story) :-)
I love this list and must now see the whole panoply in one place:
Blake: Archie
Jenna: Betty
Servalan: Veronica
Avon: Reggie
Vila: Jughead
Gan: Moose
Cally: Midge
Travis: the bully
Zen: the hotrod
Orac: the schoolbooks
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:52:35 -0700
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: B7 Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] sleazy Vila
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Hi all, sorry about posting that one twice: computer glitch on my part.
To atone, I shall embarass myself publicly: (It's all this sleezy stuff,
I'm sure)
> >You know I think I would enjoy a struggle with Avon.....
(hehehehehee)
I had the most amazing dream last nite.
I was Soolin, Avon was his dark sexy self, he was being The Master and I
was half drugged and very very willing to obey...
oh my! it was so *real* :-D
and then the alarm went off and
I WOKE UP!!!!
AAAUUUGGGRRRRHHHHHHH!!!!
(hmmm if only I could bottle this dream, I might sell it to the list)
I think I belong in the basement with that poodle.
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:39:32 +0100
From: "Julie Horner" <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Telemovie
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Mistral said:
>I've just gone and read the Beeb backchat from yesterday (for some
reason I
>couldn't get logged into the chatroom at the time) and I have to say
that I am
>more or less sickened by what I read. It looks very much as if it will
be a PGP
>that adheres to Paul Darrow's view of Avon as a murderous bastard --
hardly
>surprising with him producing and starring.
Well I think I would like to stay positive about it all until proven
wrong.
On one of the Together Again tapes I seem to recall Paul and Jackie
talking about
what a possible fifth season would be like with both Avon and Servalan
in but
much older and slower and having to make allowances for that. After all,
they
can hardly get away with a situation where only a small amount of time
has
passed (not even if they dye PD's hair and squeeze him in to a corset to
fit the gear) so it would have to be an Avon in late middle age with all
the resulting character
development. Well that's what I am hoping anyway.
There must be as many subtle differences in opinion as to what should
happen PGP as there are fans so let's face it - whatever it is, whoeever
writes it and whoever appears in it, it is bound to cause a fair old
amount of debate, criticism, admiration and the rest. I would still like
to see it made.
Julie Horner
Software Engineer
Lincoln Software
Tel: +44 (0) 1625 616722
Fax: +44(0) 1625 616780
E-mail: julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com
Web: http://www.lincolnsoftware.com
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:08:52 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Telemovie
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In a message dated 4/15/99 7:57:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com writes:
<< There must be as many subtle differences in opinion as to what should
happen PGP as there are fans so let's face it - whatever it is, whoeever
writes it and whoever appears in it, it is bound to cause a fair old
amount of debate, criticism, admiration and the rest. I would still like
to see it made. >>
Yeah, but knowing who is going to make the thing will make a huge difference
as to whether we start getting excited or getting worried now. JMS yanked
Babylon 5: Crusade off the air, rather than pander to the network's demands
to pollute his creation in the direction they demanded. If you love
something, you want to see the integrity of it preserved. You don't just
settle for anything with the name of it slapped on. We can but hope that
something good will be made of B7, someday.
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:38:36 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
To: B7 List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Telemovie
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Julie Horner wrote:
> Well I think I would like to stay positive about it all until proven
> wrong.
"Ever the optimist."-- Avon
Well, of course, Julie, you're right. I'm just scared. Which is a
good thing, actually -- this list is the only place I could ever
admit something like that. I *really* admire your ability to keep
a positive attitude -- this is just one case where I'd prefer *not*
to get my hopes up and suffer a big letdown; I'd far rather
expect the worst, so I'm prepared to deal with it; it's how I
managed to survive 'Blake' and still remain a fan. I'd *very*
much like to be proven wrong on this one. For some reason,
though, I find the idea of a bad teleplay more problematic than
the idea of a bad radio play.
I wouldn't, however, like my apprehension to influence anyone
who's feeling hopeful about this -- actually, what I would like
would be to see some fans who are actually in reach of the
involved parties to lobby heavily for some involvement by
either professionals or fans who know what they're doing. I
didn't like to say so, since I'm not in a position to help.
Hmmm... I think it's time for me to break into my Bizarro stash.
Mistral
--
"A degree of apprehension is not inappropriate."-- Orac
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:42:53 -0600
From: Penny Dreadful <egomoo@mail.geocities.com>
To: B7 Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] sleazy Vila
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At 02:52 PM 4/13/99 -0700, Pat Patera wrote:
>I had the most amazing dream last nite.
>I was Soolin, Avon was his dark sexy self, he was being The Master and I
>was half drugged and very very willing to obey...
Come to the Dark List, Patty-Sue, and tell all.
You...are...getting...sleeeepy...
>(hmmm if only I could bottle this dream, I might sell it to the list)
>I think I belong in the basement with that poodle.
Don't be scared. *Embrace* the Penny Within.
--Penny "The K-9 You Never Got To See On PG T.V." Dreadful
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