From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #125 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/125 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 125 Today's Topics: [B7L] Greetings fellow Blakes 7 fans... Re: [B7L] Worst Openings [B7L] Galaxion Re: [B7L] Art and the Desperate Editor [B7L] Worst Openings Re: [B7L] Worst Openings Re: [B7L] Worst Openings Re: [B7L] Greetings fellow Blakes 7 fans... [B7L] (B7L) Worst openings Re: [B7L] Worst Openings [B7L] OT: The Prisoner (was Worst Openings) Re [B7L]: What's so funny? Re: [B7L] Ideas vs. story (wasKubrick and B7) (fwd) Re: Re [B7L]: What's so funny? Post-"Blake" (was Re: [B7L] Greetings fellow Blakes 7 fans...) Re: [B7L] Worst Openings [B7L] Born again brouhaha (was Worst Openings) Re: [B7L] Greetings fellow Blakes 7 fans... Re: [B7l]Radio Times [B7L] A OT plea [B7L] Re: SC: A OT plea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 07:53:44 -0400 From: Gary To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Greetings fellow Blakes 7 fans... Message-ID: <370B4748.A8F14812@shore.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just wanted to wave cheerfully and announce my presence amongst you all as I believe that is proper etiquette.... so a big hello, how are you to you all.... Just curious if there was ever a good post-"Blake" continuation of the story... I found by reading my treasured copy of the 'Programme Guide' that there was a lot of loose ends that weren't really tied up satisfactorally... I had ideas of writing a story/fanfic in that regard but if I've been beaten at my own game, so to speak..... Also, any good pointers on good Web sites for Blake and crew out there. So far, I've found precious little and a point in the right direction would make my mouse more than happy... :) Nice to meet you all, Best regards, Gary W. USA "Blake would have been proud of you, you know." "Yes, but then he never was very bright" -Vila and Avon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 06:26:18 PDT From: "Stephen Date" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Worst Openings Message-ID: <19990407132645.43317.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain >On Tue, Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:04:08 +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote: >Avon raised his eyebrow and answered, "50 pages ago - while you were >lost in that swamp." As openings go that might have been a tad confusing. >Yep, that was dire. And I'm not sure which was worst - the >denigrating of Born Again Christians, or the denigrating of the >manner in which Avon became one. I think "poking gentle fun" rather than "denigrating" is the mot juste. The majority of Born Again Christians of my acquaintance have been good and decent people, the latchets of whose sandals etc. (albeit slightly narrow minded). However It is an undeniable fact that a good deal of Born Again literature and rhetoric is incredibly schmaltzy. I think this is an entirely legitimate target for satire. >Mind you, "Shine, Jesus, Shine" is one of my *least* favourite >choruses, so you were spot on in picking something irritatingly >nauseous. This is one of the occasions, where, when I consider my opportunities, I stand astounded at my own moderation. My ex-fiancee and I, when planning our abortive wedding, (of all the things I have known myself to be, until then I did not recognise the fool) were lent a book of modern evangelical hymns which contained the latter day classic "Take Me Deeper Within You". No, I am not making this up ! >I've only come across one piece of fanfiction which actually managed >to convert Avon, believably. If only I could remember what it was >called, or where I saw it. All I can remember was this word-picture >of a world-weary Avon who had forsworn violence, having come across >an old hermit who had taught him his creed. Or something like that. Whilst Avon (definitely one of life's logical positivists) is not a likely candidate to undergo a religious conversion, with God all things are possible (or, I am too much of a sceptic to deny the possibility of anything). But IMHO it would be Graham Greene territory rather than Graham Kendrick. Stephen. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:37:32 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson To: Lysator , Space City , Diane Gies Subject: [B7L] Galaxion Message-ID: <370B97DA.D5D9504C@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've just seen an ad in Comics International for an event called Galaxion from 3 to 4 October 1999 at London's Olympia. The ad doesn't say who's running it but the guests include Jacqueline Pearce (plus Walter Koenig, Marina Sirtis, Michael Dorn, Elizabeth Sladen and a load of Star Wars peeps). It costs 25 pound per day (and for that you also get a free autograph of one of the guests!!!! - two and a free CD if you book for both days and order the souvenir brochure in advance for 9.95). There is no address but a credit card booking line (01244 355250) and a 60p/min hotline (0906 4700303). The web address is: http://www.galaxion99.com I know nothing about this con nor who's organising it - does anyone know? Also, it appears to be a for-profit commercial con. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson "What is it with you and holes?" Xena to Gabrielle, Paradise Found ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:31:11 -0600 From: Penny Dreadful To: B7 Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Art and the Desperate Editor Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990407133111.007ddc90@mail.geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:19 PM 4/5/99 -0700, Pat P. proudly penned: >Yes, but almost all the other artists "specialize" in Avon, while to my >knowledge, nobody specializes in Travis. And Travis does have his >admirers! Me...and Ms. Aldridge...and, um, me? And all you Tarrant Nostra daytrippers too, of course (I'm not belittling you, but I do know full well where your *true* loyalties lie). Well, it's a start. The few, the proud, the monomaniacal! I knew I'd find my true calling eventually. Travis a la Guernica! Travis on the head of a pin! Molded out of butter! Welded out of tin! O where shall I begin? --Particular Penny D. (Please, no more Pratchett for me...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:57:33 -0700 From: "Otewalt, Andrew" To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" Subject: [B7L] Worst Openings Message-ID: <6E4D1267E6EDD111AB7100A0C91EDD22B15109@SJXPR01> Content-Type: text/plain my humble submission: < blake, wearing black and white clothes, runs into a high-tech looking control room > blake: what do you want ? orac: information. blake: who are you working for ? orac: we want information. information. information. blake: well, you wont get it ! orac: by hook, or by crook, we will. blake: who are you ? orac: i am orac. blake: who is dr. teryal ? orac : you are, blake. blake: i am not blake ! i am a free man ! orac: ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha . . . . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:39:41 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: B7 Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Worst Openings Message-ID: <370BB47D.2BECDF6D@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephen Date wrote: > I think "poking gentle fun" rather than "denigrating" is the mot > juste. The majority of Born Again Christians of my acquaintance ... ... have had no sense of humor. That's one reason why those of us not in that camp find them so obnoxious. Yes, I can wax as rabid about Blakes7 as they can about Jesus. But I can laf at myself and my obsession. In this age of Political Correctness, it is becoming impossible to say anything at all. I do not mean this rant to start a flame war; it is honestly how I feel. The bottom line is: that sickly sweet beginning was absolutely necessary to set the stage for icy Soolin to come in on cue with her beautifuly-delivered (punnish) sarcastic hiss. And frankly, that portrayal did not come across as a mangling, but very accurately reflected the way BAC's appear to those of us who are not of that persuasion. My own brother turned BAC for some years. When he recovered, he apologized to everyone for having been such an obnoxious snot. Was it poet Robert Burns who said something like: oh would the laird the giftie gie us to see ourselves as others see us? Can you tell I *just* drank a strong cup of java? Anyone up for a round of fisticuffs? How 'bout you, Jim Kirk? Frankly, Pat P ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:50:20 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: B7 Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Worst Openings Message-ID: <370BC50B.5B2D9E42@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Otewalt, Andrew" wrote: > < blake, wearing black and white clothes, runs into a high-tech looking > control room > > blake: what do you want ? > > orac: information. ... > blake: i am not blake ! i am a free man ! > > orac: ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha . . . . Andrew, this went right over my head. please explain. is it a parody of some popular show I've never seen? Pat P ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:08 -0700 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Greetings fellow Blakes 7 fans... Message-ID: In message <370B4748.A8F14812@shore.net>, Gary writes > >Just curious if there was ever a good post-"Blake" continuation of the >story... Lots, but don't let that stop you from contributing. More good fanfic is always welcome. >I found by reading my treasured copy of the 'Programme Guide' >that there was a lot of loose ends that weren't really tied up >satisfactorally... I had ideas of writing a story/fanfic in that regard >but if I've been beaten at my own game, so to speak..... > >Also, any good pointers on good Web sites for Blake and crew out there. >So far, I've found precious little and a point in the right direction >would make my mouse more than happy... :) > Since you're interested in fanfic, you could do worse than start at Judith Proctor's website: http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Fanzines for Blake's 7 and many other fandoms, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. It hosts the B7 fanzine database (say thank you to Sarah Thompson, the masochist^Warchivist). It also has links to a fair number of other B7 websites. -- Julia Jones ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:27:39 +0100 From: Ben To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] (B7L) Worst openings Message-ID: <370BCDCB.75A732BD@primex.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Too late, Blake realized he had mistaken his Liberator handgun for his > > curling iron. > > That's not even bad. let me spice it up a bit for you: > > Avon looked at the headless corpse and multitude of bloodstains on the > wall beyond it. He sighed. > "I told Blake not to buy a curling iron that was so like a handgun," he said. > Vila buried his face in Avon's shirt, crying violently. > "I... I... I just wanted to help!" he said, inbetween sobs. > Avon patted his friend on the head. "Come now, dear, it was a > perfectly natural mistake for you to make." Enter Cally : Has anyone seen my curling iron ? Ben. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:34:12 +0100 From: Ben To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Worst Openings Message-ID: <370BCF54.96197D8F@primex.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat Patera wrote: > "Otewalt, Andrew" wrote: > > > < blake, wearing black and white clothes, runs into a high-tech looking > > control room > > > blake: what do you want ? > > > > orac: information. > ... > > blake: i am not blake ! i am a free man ! > > > > orac: ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha . . . . > > Andrew, this went right over my head. please explain. is it a parody of > some popular show I've never seen? > Pat P It is the opening credits of the Prisoner, cult brit thing, the actual catchphrase was I am not a number I am a free man, any other fans of the prisoner on here ? My fave episode has gotta be Schizoid Man. Ben. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:56:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Susan.Moore@uni.edu To: BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] OT: The Prisoner (was Worst Openings) Message-id: <01J9RBHB8SOY8X5LP4@uni.edu> My favorite ep. of the series is Checkmate (largely because Peter Wyngarde plays Number 2). The Prisoner touches on some of the same themes that Blake's 7 does, so those of you who've not seen it might want to. The final episode gets about as much contention going as the final ep. of B7. Susan M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:30:40 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re [B7L]: What's so funny? Message-ID: <07d201be8149$8a4f4880$c8428cd4@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resurecting an old thread, maybe, but on my way down to Somerset for a week's holiday I read a piece in the Daily Telegraph about some research into humour done in Canada (the research, not the humour). Apparently the ability to comprehend more sophisticated levels of humour (wit, irony etc) is related to development of the right frontal lobe of the brain - people who have an underdeveloped or damaged right frontal lobe more readily appreciate in-the-face slapstick humour than the 'higher' varieties. And vice versa. Presumably Benny Hill fans can now defend themselves on the grounds that they are 'right frontal lobally challenged' or something. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:51:58 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Ideas vs. story (wasKubrick and B7) (fwd) Message-ID: <07d301be8149$8b3a44c0$c8428cd4@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ann Basart/Una wrote: >> Jacqueline and I have been talking about whether or not it's the story or >> the idea that counts in a text (be it fanfic, novels, films, whatever). > > >Oh surely not just one of these! In genre fiction (such as sci-fi, >thrillers, mysteries) it's usually the plot, especially the excitement of >the plot. Which, IMO, makes B7 better than a lot of "sci-fi" because the >interpersonal relationships and character development are more important >than the plot. I'd agree that such things are generally perceived by most fans as being more important than the plot, but I also think that says more about the way the series is viewed than the way it was written. The interpersonal/character stuff that grabs attention comes out of the plots. In terms of narrative mechanics, it's more often the case that the plot determines the character stuff rather than the other way round, though obviously there is a fair bit of interplay between the two. For example, in Bounty, Blake's threat to destroy Sarkoff's collection arises out of Blake's need to get Sarkoff to agree to go back to Lindor, which in turn arises out of the script's need to unite the two divergent plot strands (Sarkoff and the Amagons). (I notice that Terry Nation's episodes tend to have a divergent plot structure - the crew is split to create two or more plot strands - whilst Boucher's tend to have a convergent structure - the crew in toto converges on the other, initially independent, strand. 'Blake' is a classic example). I said some while ago on this list that I considered B7 to be primarily plot-driven, and some people disagreed with that (citing Bounty to back their case, as I recall). It might help to clarify what we mean by plot - to me, a plot is simply a causally coherent narrative, in which Event A precipitates Event B etc. (Though since this seems overly deterministic, it might be better say to say that Event B is one of the various possible consequences of Event A). The causal factor might not be immediately apparent, though (as in whodunnits, for example). By that criterion, Bounty is rigidly plotted, since there are no wild cards in the narrative structure. (Cf, for example, Stardrive, in which the Space Rats' chopper just happens to be in the vicinity of Scorpio when the pursuit flotilla homes in near the beginning.) >In great novels, I think it is usually a mix. What is it that "counts" in >_War and Peace_, _Moby Dick_, _A Passage to India_, _Hamlet._, [add your >favorites]? Usually there has to be a story to keep the reader interested, >but setting, writing style, character development, ideas, are all >interwoven, sometimes one coming to the foreground, sometimes another. > >In other words, (1) I don't think you can generalize; and (2) much depends >on the medium (film, fanfic, opera, popular novel, drama, literature, etc.) Not just the medium, but on what the author wants to say and what the reader wants to hear. I came out of Saving Private Ryan (nice intro, shame about the rest) thinking that any film trying to depict the experience of war could not afford to have anything more than the absolute bare minimum of plot. Lo and behold, along comes The Thin Red Line, which might not be as slickly crafted as SPR but is by my reckoning a far superior film. It's a rare case of idea/theme stomping forcefully over what little actual story there is, and it's hard to imagine an episode of something like B7 being made in that particular way. A fan story, on the other hand, can do it - Catherine Salmon's 'In Broken Images' (Star One) and Sarah Berry's 'Fingers in My Mind' (Horizon 12) being the first two examples to spring to mind. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:00:40 -0600 From: Penny Dreadful To: "lysator" Subject: Re: Re [B7L]: What's so funny? Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990407180040.007a5490@mail.geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:30 PM 4/7/99 +0100, Neil Faulkner wrote: >Presumably Benny Hill fans can now defend themselves on the grounds that >they are 'right frontal lobally challenged' or something. Not like you urbane sophisticates with your Great Big Frontal Lobes, hm? --Penny Hill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:13:35 +1000 From: Kathryn Andersen To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Post-"Blake" (was Re: [B7L] Greetings fellow Blakes 7 fans...) Message-ID: <19990408081335.A7080@welkin.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 07:53:44AM -0400, Gary wrote: > I just wanted to wave cheerfully and announce my presence amongst you > all as I believe that is proper etiquette.... so a big hello, how are > you to you all.... Hello. Actually I think an introduction *isn't* a requirement on this list, we're lurker-friendly, being mostly a bunch of introverts, but thanks for being friendly. > Just curious if there was ever a good post-"Blake" continuation of the > story... I found by reading my treasured copy of the 'Programme Guide' > that there was a lot of loose ends that weren't really tied up > satisfactorally... I had ideas of writing a story/fanfic in that regard > but if I've been beaten at my own game, so to speak..... The answer is, yes, there's thousands of them, variously called 'post-"Blake"', or "PGP" (post-Gauda Prime) or "5th Season". However Blake's 7 is a venerable fandom, so 99% of these stories are not on the web, but in real actual paper fanzines. However, just because other people have written PGPs, doesn't mean that you don't have new and useful ideas to add to that subgenre. It's just that it might be a good idea to read a few PGP stories to figure out if you might need to take a different and unusual approach in order to make your (possibly common) idea interesting. Here are some of the typical PGP plots you might encounter in a random zine: (A) Status-Quo The author saves whoever they feel like saving. The survivors are prisoners of the Federation. They get rescued by old friends or new rebel characters (or both). They steal a fantastic spaceship, and they blaze off into the sunset intending to fight the good fight once more. OR they found a new base from which to fight the good fight etc. (B) Rebel Reaction Blake's people manage to counterattack the Federation and everyone is holed up in (a new) base. The rebels want to execute Our Heros for killing Blake, and they escape, unwelcome. OR Blake wasn't killed, because he was wearing a bullet-proof vest, and the rebels want to execute Avon for attempted murder, but Blake is really understanding and prevents them. Or, Blake is really pissed off at Avon, and Vila is torn between the two of them. But they sort it all out in the end. (C) Avon's Insanity Avon is catatonic/insane because he can't cope with having killed Blake. Vila/Blake(pick a random character) nurses Avon back to health. Off the top of my head, the best PGPs are: "The Pattern of Infinity" by Ana Dorfstad (printed in the Enarrare Blake's 7 Special Edition, now out of print, so you'll have to see if you can borrow it from someone) This was in three parts: 1) By The Pricking of My Thumbs actually manages to construct the background situation leading up to "Blake", as seen from the folk on GP, so that it is supremely logical that everyone was not killed! 2) How Sharper Than A Serpent's Tooth and What Happened Afterwards. 3) Whether 'Tis Nobler in the Mind If I told you, you wouldn't believe it, and besides, I don't want to spoil the surprise. "Key" by Jenny Hayward & Marie Logan (originally reprinted in Enarrare 5, 6 & 7 (now out of print) and reprinted in Chronicles #56/57/58, still in print). Avon is in Servalan's hands, Orac's key is missing, Avon is being interrogated. Will the rebel agent rescue Avon, or kill him to keep him quiet? What is Commissioner Gair's agenda? And how does Avon's brother fit into all this? Featuring Avon, Servalan, Vila, Dayna, Del Grant - and Avon's brother. "The Log of the Hellhound" by Katrina Larkin and Susanne Tilley, a long epic which appeared in Southern Seven and Blake's Doubles, and may be available separately, I can't remember. I must admit, I started this but didn't keep up. The Avon here is very dark, having been tortured by Servalan before he escaped. The others (that are alive) have gone through the wringer too. This is probably the longest PGP around. I don't know what book they're up to by now. This could be classified as a "Status Quo" story, but the characterisations are unusually dark. "Crucible" by Michelle Douglas in Dark Between The Stars 2, which is probably out of print but you might find it second-hand. The supporting characters are a bit cardboard, but I liked Avon. The Deltah-Base stories by Sophia Mulvey started in The Seven Live On #1. One could consider them a form of Status Quo stories, except that Vila plays an unusual role. "Dante's Madness" by Linda Knights in "Questions of the Past". An Avon's Insanity story (which you might guess by the title) but well done, and with somewhat of a twist. Of course, part of the reason why these PGPs are so good is that they are *not* typical of the usual PGP. If you want to see examples of typical PGPs, just grab any random copy of Southern Seven, Gambit, Horizon or any of the other good anthology zines. If you want to find addresses for these zines, I think Judith Proctor's web page is the one with the most comprehensive zine address list, and Linda Knights is (the largest?) US agent for both US and non-US zines. http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 (Judith's page) http://www.nas.com/~lknight/index.html (Linda Knight's page) > Also, any good pointers on good Web sites for Blake and crew out there. > So far, I've found precious little and a point in the right direction > would make my mouse more than happy... :) There are two webrings, that would be a good start. Here's the URLs to List all the sites. http://www.blakes7.org/perl/webring/list.epl http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=b7;list Kathryn Andersen -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat \_.--.*/ | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:14:01 -0700 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Worst Openings Message-ID: <19980312.011405.10062.1.Rilliara@juno.com> On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:04:08 +1000 Kathryn Andersen writes: >On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 02:08:50AM -0700, Stephen Date wrote: >> Stephen >> (Departing the stage to jeers, catcalls and actual machine gun >fire). > >And rotten tomatoes, tissue paper, and copies of The Book of Mormon. Hmm, ever read The Book of Mormon? It's a wonderful book. Yes, I am a Mormon and, no, I'm not taking offense at the above comment. When I was a missionary, I knew elders (that's the guy missionaries, normally age 19 to 21. The women are sisters, in case anyone wanted to know, and _infinitly_ more mature) who probably would have counted that as placing a copy. Technically, we aren't Born Agains, although we are Christians. Speaking for myself, I hope I know the difference between when to laugh and when to take a stand for my beliefs. Ellynne ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:16:24 PDT From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Born again brouhaha (was Worst Openings) Message-ID: <19990408061624.27204.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain My two cents worth: it isn't the Born Agains in general you have to worry about. It's the evangelicals of any persuasion, the missionaries, whether they are the sorry creatures who try to get you interested in their little groups while you are at university, or the stupid fool in Sydney who seems to think it's his life's work to convert the local Jews. Sorry Ellynne, but at least if you know how to laugh then you'll probably know how to take no for an answer. The ones who don't deserve all they get. A shame for those who don't deserve it but get tarred with the same brush anyway. I find it difficult to believe that anyone, let alone Jesus, would want Avon for a sunbeam. He's a stormcloud on the horizon, and don't we prefer him that way? Yes? No? Regards Joanne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:28:32 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Greetings fellow Blakes 7 fans... Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed 07 Apr, Gary wrote: > I just wanted to wave cheerfully and announce my presence amongst you > all as I believe that is proper etiquette.... so a big hello, how are > you to you all.... Welcome. > > Just curious if there was ever a good post-"Blake" continuation of the > story... I found by reading my treasured copy of the 'Programme Guide' > that there was a lot of loose ends that weren't really tied up > satisfactorally... I had ideas of writing a story/fanfic in that regard > but if I've been beaten at my own game, so to speak..... Take a look at my web site . It isn't case of are there any, but of whether it's actually possible to count them. With Sarah Thompson's invaluable help, there is a list of my site of all known fanzines with B7 stories in them. Many of these are what are known as PGPs (post-Gauda prime) stories. Some of them are excellent. I strongly recommend that you go and write one yourself, as every single one is different. There are always zine editors looking forstories to print. There's two or three on this list alone. > > Also, any good pointers on good Web sites for Blake and crew out there. > So far, I've found precious little and a point in the right direction > would make my mouse more than happy... :) Try http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 If you don't find what you want, and it's a very large site, then there'll probabably be a link to something that will fit the bill. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Fanzines for Blake's 7 and many other fandoms, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:18:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Una McCormack To: Lysator Subject: Re: [B7l]Radio Times Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Julie said: >Una said : > >>Not as much coverage this time in the Radio Times - just a little bit in >>the side panel with a little graphic of Servalan and Avon: > >However, it is included in "Pick of the Week" on page 3 so that's >something. You're quite right. Teach me to read things from the back and the bottom right! Una ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:01:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Una McCormack To: Lysator cc: Space City Subject: [B7L] A OT plea Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone supply me with copies of the Horseman arc from 'Highlander'? I really want to write some more stuff based on the vignette I posted, and I can't really write any more Methos stuff until I finally see these episodes. Please respond privately if you can help, Una ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:17:42 EDT From: Bizarro7@aol.com To: space-city@world.std.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: SC: A OT plea Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Write to Annie Wortham at Ashton7@aol.com with your plea for COMES A HORSEMAN and REVELATIONS 6:8 - VHS video copies, Una. She usually will accept tapes or the replacement cost of the tapes in exchange for copies. These are arguably the absolute best episodes of HIGHLANDER: THE SERIES of the show's 6 year run, and some of the best TV ever done. They've inspired fanfic in the same volumes and manner that I've only seen before from the episode BLAKE. 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