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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 77

Today's Topics:
	 Re: [B7L] What is going on here?
	 [B7L] Re: worst first lines
	 [B7L] re: `Allo, `Allo, zis is Avon Calling London
	 [B7L] re: `Allo, `Allo, zis is Avon Calling London
	 [B7L] re: ???????
	 [B7L] re: `Allo, `Allo, zis is Avon calling London
	 [B7L] Video tapes
	 [B7L] re:Decisions, Decisions
	 [B7L] theory
	 [B7L] Re: b7spin: depression
	 Re: [B7L] Video tapes
	 Re: [B7L] re: ???????
	 Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines
	 Re: [B7L] theory
	 Re: [B7L] Re: b7spin: depression
	 Re: [B7L] re:Decisions, Decisions
	 Re: [B7L] unwanted message
	 Re: [B7L] re: `Allo, `Allo, zis is Avon Calling London
	 Re: [B7L] B7 and Dad's Army
	 Re: [B7L] video tapes
	 [B7L]Decisions, decisions
	 Re: [B7L]Decisions, decisions

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:58:53 EST
From: ShilLance <ShilLance@aol.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] What is going on here?
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In a message dated 98-03-06 16:40:00 EST, you write:

<< > From: G. Robbins 
 > 
 > Why am I getting all of these empty messages from
 > blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se mailed to this list?  Am I the only
 one
 > getting this or is everybody having the same problem?  I opened up
 my
 > email and it said I had 55 new messages, and I just checked them
 last
 > night.  For a second there, I thought that I had become a very
 popular
 > person overnight!!
 > 
 > WHAT IS GOING ON HERE??
 > 
 > Just to let you know that I am experiencing exactly the same thing.
 
 Two hours ago I received 6 of these blank messages and just now I
 logged
 on and received a further 28!
 
 Can anything be done to stop anymore of these messages?
 
 Cheers,
 
 (from someone who is usually a lurker!),
 
 
 Val. >>

I'm getting the same stuff as well!!!!!!

Gwynn

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:23:17 -0000
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: worst first lines
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Avon: So tell me about the Shadow bars

Tarrant: OK, what do you want to know?

Avon: Shadow's legal there, right?

Tarrant: Well, it's legal, but it ain't 100 % legal

etc.

(alternatively, based on Man Of Iron)

Avon: We should have shotguns for this kind of deal...

------------------


Tarrant rushed straight through the flight deck and off to his cabin.
'Whats up with him?' Vila asked.

Dayna shook her head wearily. 'Just because someone at the disco told him
afros were as dead as corduroy....'

------------------

Blake's 7
Episode V, The Federation Strikes Back

It is a dark time for the Rebels. Although Star One has been destroyed,
Federation troops have driven the rebels from the Liberator and pursued
them across the galaxy.

Evading the dreaded Federation Space Command, a small group of freedom
fighters led by Kerr Avon has established a new secret base of the remote
world of Xenon.

The evil Servalan, now posing as Commissioner Sleer, has despatched
thousands of Mutoids into the far reaches of space...

-------------------

Blake: Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

Gan: I think so, Blake, but where will we get 500 blow-up dolls of Peter
Mandelson?

----------------- 

"Previously, on Star Trek: Voyager..."

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:32:14 +0000
From: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] re: `Allo, `Allo, zis is Avon Calling London
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Jenni-Alison wrote:
> 
> Lindley asked:
> 
> > And what represents the Fallen
> > Madonna with the Big Boobies?
> 
> How about The Liberator with the big Nacelles?
> 
> Jenni

BRILLIANT!  wish I`d thought of it!  But..... how do you hide that in a
knockwest sausage???
Bye
Jackie

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:32:04 +0000
From: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] re: `Allo, `Allo, zis is Avon Calling London
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Taylor, Steve [MIS] wrote:
> 
> Lost track of the names
> 
>  ->>Lizzen verree carefullee, I shall zay zis only vonce.  WHERE IS AVON?!!
>  ->
>  ->Oops!  How could forget him?
>  ->
> 
>  ->The primary role of stud in black
>  ->leather has been given to Servalan
>  ->already.  I guess Avon could be
>  ->Bobby Cedric "Englebert"
>  ->Von Smallhausen.  Black leather,
>  ->icy demeanour and wooden acting
>  ->all accounting for...
>  ->
> 
> No - Avon is Yvette (actually its more the thought of  her in black
> leather....) - cunning, manipulative, always gets what she wants:-)
> 
> Steve T
> 
> PS anyone want to start a Dad's Army cross-over! - I would but I'm not that
> good at this sort of thing!


Jackie wails - But Dad`s Army is full of OLD men, and I do not remember
any females of any age in it!

The only sugestion I can make is Capt Mainwaring is Blake, but that is
too obvious.  The only "baddie" that I can recall is the air-raid
warden, so he would have to be either Servalan or Travis.

Bye 
Jackie

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:32:33 +0000
From: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] re: ???????
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blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se wrote:


I`m also getting these *funny* non messages.

Is it likely that someone is:

a) Having trouble with their machine.
b) Having trouble with their server.
c) Taking the mickie
d) is one of the 53 trying to send an SOS, but is out of range.
e) It`s Orac giving us precise instructions on how much we need to have
in order to win the auction at Domo, but due to our primitive hardware,
we`re not getting the message.
f) or does Calle need to kick the machinery (always a good way of
stopping hiccups!!)

Bye
Jackie

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:31:48 +0000
From: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] re: `Allo, `Allo, zis is Avon calling London
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Ophelia wrote:
> 
> <whisper> Phillipe is enjoying his
> new bicycle. </whisper>
> Got that?  Good.  We can proceed..
> 
> First, an update on the war:
> 
> "All the rebels want to do is shoot
> Federation guards.  This of course
> makes the Federation guards very
> cross, and they shoot Resistance
> members.  By the time the
> Andromedans arrive, there will be
> no one left..."
> 
> I did not pick 'Allo 'Allo entirely because
> of the studs in black leather.  There are
> definite similarities.  A daring band of
> rebels (the two Resistance groups)
> struggling against a rather interesting
> colonial power (the Germans), while the
> ordinary people, both the oppressed and
> the military, really couldn't give a damn
> and just want a peaceful life.  ("Rene,
> you have to stop meeting those naughty
> Resistance people.  Then I will try not to
> arrest two many Frenchmen, and we can
> all lead a quiet life.")  There is the sharp
> definition between the power-hungry
> baddies (the Gestapo) and the ordinary,
> nice military (the ordinary German soldiers.)
> And there are some *very* interesting
> methods of interrogation and torture.
> 
> ("Helga, if you do not answer my questions,
> you will have no pudding.  And ve are
> having jam roly-poly."
> "Oh, Herr Flick, you are a ruthless man!)

The byplay between Helga and Herr Flick was absolutely priceless.  If I
had to name a favourite charactor in this comedy, Herr Flick would get
my vote (only just ahead of Rene)

 
> And, of course, all wimmin under forty
> are referred to as girls...
> 
> [Jackie]:
> 
> >Lizzen verree carefullee, I shall zay zis only vonce.  WHERE IS AVON?!!
> 
> Oops!  How could forget him?
> 
> The primary role of stud in black
> leather has been given to Servalan
> already.  I guess Avon could be
> Bobby Cedric "Englebert"
> Von Smallhausen.  Black leather,
> icy demeanour and wooden acting
> all accounting for...
> 
> M. Alfonse?  They both tend towards
> funereal black..
> 
> But, really, Avon should be Rene (I
> wasn't happy with casting Gan in
> the role.  Gan would be better as Hans.)
> After all, Rene was conscripted into
> the Resistance against his will, when all
> he really wanted to do was make lots of
> money from the German oppressors...
> And, he's irresistable to wimmin and some
> men, (altho why he would prefer Yvette
> over both Maria and Gruber is beyond me.)
> So the Avon droolers will be happy.



> 
> >Who are you having as the Italian officer (Wotta mistaka to maka!!) (I
> >suggest Carnell)
> 
> <g>  Carnell as Bertrolli is an excellent
> idea.  But wouldn't that make Servalan
> Edith?
> 
> >What about the German officer "wiz my little tank"?
> 
> Not guilty!  The incredibly camp and
> sweet-natured Lt. Hubert Gruber was
> one of my suggestions for Vila (along)
> with Hans - because they both tend to
> apologize after shooting people.  Also,
> Gruber is a somewhat neutral party who
> just wants to have his cognac, get along
> with people, and maybe have some wild
> sex with Rene.  (Yeah, so I'm an A/V
> fan.  Didn't influence my casting in the
> least.  <big grin>


I apologise here.  I have`nt seen the show in such a long time, that I
had forgotton thet Gruber was the camp German "wiz my little tank".  I
had confused the name Gruber with the little German who ended up being
takent to England in a botched British Airman rescue attempt.

I loved Gruber`s attempts to get Rene into his room at the Chateaux. 
And (if I`m remembering correctly) Grubers absolute delight at finding
Rene in his room one night - Rene had come in through a secret passage
with (leading?)the the resistance. The secret passageway`s entrance was
in Gruber`s bedroom.  Rene`s horror, and Grubers delight was hilarious!!
> 
> And we who harbour desires for our
> thief can take heart - it was actually
> a rather large tank.
> 
> I used to wish Gruber would forget Rene
> and settle down with one of those nice
> German boys who used to gaze into his
> eyes when he sang.  I didn't expect him
> to marry Helga, as he did...  Any good
> Vila/Soolin stories around?

I must have missed that bit.  Camp Gruber marrying Helga??  How come??

> 
> >And you forgot `er indoors - You stupid woman! :->
> 
> Which one?  Edith or Fanny?
> Edith's portrayal always bothered me,
> it was highly misogynous, and I can't think
> of an equivalent.  And Fanny is a goddess
> in her own right and does not need
> recasting. :)
> 

I was actually thinking of Edith.  In my perverted thinking I think she
should be Jenna (altho this would make Blake= Rene).  Always the eternal
triangle.  Jenna catches Blake in close proximty with another  female
rebel, and you get the classic "You stupid Woman" speech.

Fanny, as you say, does not need reasting.  But I find just a touch of
Blake in her. There she is doing her own thing, and Rene & Edith (Avon &
Vila) barge into her room without so much as a Bye Your Leave set up the
radio (orac? I`m stretching it a bit here) to do their own thing (the
gambling scene in Gambit!) quite oblivious to the requirements of the
old lady.

> >Guud moaning!
> 
> Aaargh!  Travis, of course.
> 
> >Even the British airmen were not recast! (I suggest Egrorian and Pinder)
> 
> Brilliant casting!  Egorian, being the
> eldest, would be Fairfax, with Pinder
> as Carstairs.
> 
> Maybe you could help me with a few more
> spare characters...  Edith, Maria, Yvette,
> Lisa, the other LeClerc brother...
> 'Allo 'Allo had an incredibly large regular
> cast. 

> And what represents the Fallen
> Madonna with the Big Boobies?

Servalan?  (sorry,sorry,sorry,sorry! just couldn`t resist that!)  

> >Jackie
> >I just loved this show, - every one had their own catch-phrase.
> 
> "I see flashing knobs!"
> 
> >"the pill is in the till, and the gateaux is at the chateaux!"
> 
> To which I reply:
> 
> "So, somebody must have substituted
> ze forged painting in the Gestapo
> sausage for ze real painting in the Gestapo
> sausage when ze sausage was in ze cafe.
> Or, ze Resistance substituted ze forged
> painting for ze real painting in ze Gestapo
> sausage when they stole ze sausage.  Or
> you, Herr Gruber, wiz your vell known leaning
> towards art, have substituted ze forged
> painting for ze real painting when your leetle
> dog returned the sausage to your quarters,
> cleverly mincing ze sausage to remove all
> traces of mein little swastika which I had
> placed on the side of it, so now I vill never
> know if it was ze Gestapo sausage or just
> any old sausage!"
> 
> It was a *very* complicated show.

Bye
Jackie

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:48:33 GMT
From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Video tapes
Message-Id: <39896825MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>

Jay asked about the video tapes: "How much are they?  This
might call for a quick phone call to Mum to nip down to
Woolies for me."

Ten pound ninety nine pence each.

cheers
Steve Rogerson

Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

"The workers united will never be ignited"
Guards! Guards! - Terry Pratchett

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:45:49 +0000
From: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] re:Decisions, Decisions
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Mary W O'Connor wrote:
> 
> > Right, it's decision time!
> >
> > I have to figure out what I'm doing on the last weekend in March, and I
> > think you lot can help. Really it's a question of how long to spend at
> > deliverance: the convention fees are OK, but the hotel rate starts to
> > mount up.
> 
> They sure do, but it is important to be on site.
> 
> >At the moment, attending on Saturday and Sunday, staying in the
> > hotel Saturday night, looks pretty affordable. If I were to stretch my
> > budget a bit, what would be the best investment? Friday evening - Sunday
> > evening or Saturday afternoon - Monday morning?
> >
> > I've never been to a con before, so I'm in the dark a bit here. I'm
> > imagining something like an astronomy conference, but with fewer lectures
> > and better dress sense.
> 
> Your are going to have fun!
> You are going to be sorry you didn't go to the whole thing.
> Take a camera. I am hoping to get pictures of as many people from this
> list as I can. The trick will be to remember names and faces. :-)
> 
> Remember to talk to strangers.
> 
> Look for me in one of my costumes, Jenna - Bounty, Cally - Redemption,
> Servalan - Project Avalon, Avon - Terminal or Horizon.
> 
> Remember, you are going to have fun!


You are too Late. The main Convention Hotel has been fully booked up
since before christmas.  At least that is what I was told by Diane Gies
in January, when I enquired whether I could have 2 rooms (one for the
kids, and one for hubby and me). 

Bye 
Jackie

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 08:16:08 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] theory
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Fran Myers wrote: 
> I have a theory!   Someone is trying to join but they are putting the
> "request" in the address instead of the subject line.
I think it is a devious Federation plot, no doubt devised by Servalan,
to overwhelm the rebel communications system with pointless messages so
that they become discouraged and give up the good fight.
Pat P
Frantically poking that delete key
PS When we find this perpetrator, we shall we shall bend her busy
fingers backwards; we shall pull her eyeballs out by the stalks; we
shall make her listen to endless streams of Vila's jokes...

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 08:19:38 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: b7spin: depression
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Fran Myers wrote:
> is there a message here?  does b7 appeal to depressives because it is a
> series always doomed to failure?
Or does watching Blakes7 over and over and over make one into a
depressive?
Most all those excellent rebels should have been outstanding in their
field
(not out standing in a chalk pit) :^D
Pining Pat P
Who, with such mental and physical gifts as she possesses, should surely
rule the world by now.

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:05:05 -0000
From: Alison Page <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Video tapes
Message-ID: <889302105.1011288.0@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
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Steve - 
> Jay asked about the video tapes: "How much are they?  This
> might call for a quick phone call to Mum to nip down to
> Woolies for me."
> 
> Ten pound ninety nine pence each.

I was in WHSmith today, and they are that price there too. *And* 'The Way
Back/ Space Fall' is number nine in their video charts.. which I find
pretty impressive, for a twenty year old TV show. 

You know, combining that info with Judith's comments on how many tapes the
BBC sold it sounds like there are still plenty of true believers out there,
at least in the UK

Alison

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 14:36:58 -0600
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] re: ???????
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980307143516.007400b4@dallas.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Jackie wrote:

>Is it likely that someone is:
>
>a) Having trouble with their machine.
>b) Having trouble with their server.

Either of those, probably (b). I've seen this happen before; I think it
happens under some circumstances when a server in a badly screwed-up state
is trying to bounce messages. It usually stops once someone figures out
what's going on, which seems to be the case here. (At least I haven't seen
any more blanks since around midday yesterday.)

	- Lisa

_____________________________________________________________
Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@mcopn1.dseg.ti.com

Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/
New Riders of the Golden Age: http://www.warhorse.com/

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 13:00:47 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Dangermouse <master@sol.co.uk>
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines
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> 
> "Previously, on Star Trek: Voyager..."
This is DEFINITELY a worst first line, for anything, B7 related, or not.
:^)

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 13:06:12 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] theory
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Continuing theories on why all the blank messages:
Zen is trying to send us direct communications, but not having the
palm-print interface, we cannot make computer-mind contact. (I wish
they'd done more with that business. Jenna and the ship kind of bonded,
and then no later references or plot material out of it.).

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 13:08:14 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: b7spin: depression
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Pat Patera wrote:
> 
> Fran Myers wrote:
> > is there a message here?  does b7 appeal to depressives because it is a
> > series always doomed to failure?
> Or does watching Blakes7 over and over and over make one into a
> depressive?
> Most all those excellent rebels should have been outstanding in their
> field
> (not out standing in a chalk pit) :^D
> Pining Pat P
> Who, with such mental and physical gifts as she possesses, should surely
> rule the world by now.

Join Dogbert's New Ruling Class. :^) We'll rule the world someday.

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:40:13 +0000 (GMT)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] re:Decisions, Decisions
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.42-0307184013-ab5Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII

On Sat 07 Mar, Jackie wrote with regard to Deliverance:

> You are too Late. The main Convention Hotel has been fully booked up
> since before christmas.  At least that is what I was told by Diane Gies
> in January, when I enquired whether I could have 2 rooms (one for the
> kids, and one for hubby and me). 

And the moral of that story is to book early for Redemption...  We've got a very
nice hotel, incredibly easy to reach from Europe (Eurostar stops at Ashford
International) and with a great atmosphere for conventions (as people at the
last Who's 7 will remember).

Visit our stand at Deliverance.   I may even have some chocolate for bribery
purposes...

Judith

-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7

Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: 08 Mar 1998 13:34:52 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: B7 <blake7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] unwanted message
Message-ID: <uszpj17443.fsf@sandra.lysator.liu.se>

Fran Myers <algemy@ozemail.com.au> writes:

> I have a theory!   Someone is trying to join but they are putting the
> "request" in the address instead of the subject line.

No, someone is sending *completely* empty messages. Not even with the
mandatory header lines. This makes Lysator's sendmail fill those
mandatory headers with its best guess, which makes it look like it
comes from the listbot. As far as I can see the empties comes from
ti.com, whose postmaster I have tried to contact. Since this is a
major company (Texas Instruments), I have some hope of recieving a reply.
-- 
 Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
                         Mediocre minds think alike.

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Date: 08 Mar 1998 13:36:38 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] re: `Allo, `Allo, zis is Avon Calling London
Message-ID: <usyayl7414.fsf@sandra.lysator.liu.se>

Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk> writes:

> BRILLIANT!  wish I`d thought of it!  But..... how do you hide that in a
> knockwest sausage???

You use a *really big* knockwurst, of course.
-- 
 Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
                         Mediocre minds think alike.

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 13:36:21 -0800
From: "J. I. Horner" <jihorner@dial.pipex.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 and Dad's Army
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Jay wrote:

> I was thinking Pike was Tarrant, mainly because of the youthful looks, but
> I can't see Tarrant running home to ask his Mum everytime they go out. :-)

I was thinking of Tarrant as Pike but mainly because Pike was always 
called 'that stupid boy'! Ooops!

Julie Horner

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 13:47:56 -0800
From: "J. I. Horner" <jihorner@dial.pipex.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] video tapes
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Jay wrote:
> 
> At 11:42 AM 3/6/98 GMT, you wrote:
> >I've now seen the first two B7 video tapes on sale in the new
> >release. The bastards. They've got great new covers. HMV are
> >selling them in a nice cardboard box cover. Woolworths is
> >giving away free collectors postcards with them. All of them
> >trying to tempt me in to owning two sets of B7 videos. I will
> >resist. I WILL RESIST!
> 
> How much are they?  This might call for a quick phone call to Mum to nip
> down to Woolies for me.


They are £10.99 - Woolies have the limited edition (first 7000) set and 
the cover design is quite clever. I noticed that the spines on each video 
were slightly different, but it was only when I got them home and stood 
them on the shelf reading left to right that I realised that when you get 
the set, the spines will spell out the B7 logo.

Before now I had only seen B7 on UK Gold and have been recording them 
from there but, owing to a few cock-ups with our new VCR, I missed chunks 
of some of the first few, including all of 'The Way Back'. I used this as 
an excuse with husband as to why I needed to lash out dosh to buy the 
first few tapes to fill in the gaps, and wondered how I was then going to 
persuade him that I needed to go on and buy the lot as they come out, 
even the episodes we recorded OK.

However, no problem! We watched the first tape last night and he said 
this morning that he thoroughly enjoyed it and agreed with me that the 
quality of the recording is much better. Also I was shocked to realise 
how much was cut for UK Gold.I watched my recording of 'Space Fall' quite 
recently so I was surprised last night to see scenes which I had never 
seen before.

Anyway, looks like I will have no problem now justifying myself when I 
carry on to buy all the tapes. However, I still have to convince him that 
I need to save some of the UK Gold recordings as well because they 
contain the Paul Darrow introductions...


Julie Horner

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 13:56:47 -0800
From: "J. I. Horner" <jihorner@dial.pipex.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L]Decisions, decisions
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I will be another first time con-goer at Deliverance and I have a 
question.

Will I be a real party pooper if I don't go in fancy dress? And if I do 
dress up, is it alright to just have a stab in the general direction or 
do people expect to be able to say, 'oh you are so-and-so in episode x'?

I think I can manage leather trousers and a black polo neck, and after 
discussions with Jenni I have possibilities of a Liberator hand-gun, but 
my teleport bracelet has met with disaster (I was saving an empty Fairy 
liquid bottle but the cleaning lady through it out and I haven't a hope 
of using up the new bottle before the end of the month)

Also I can't imagine my husband going very far along the dressing up 
path.

Due to a baby sitting problem (sister got first call on Mum for the 
Saturday night) I will also have a two-year old in tow - an infant 
Servalan perhaps? No I don't think so, Servalan in nappies doesn't quite 
convince me.

Julie Horner

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 09:36:21 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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Subject: Re: [B7L]Decisions, decisions
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J. I. Horner wrote:
> 
> I will be another first time con-goer at Deliverance and I have a
> question.
> 
> Will I be a real party pooper if I don't go in fancy dress? And if I do
> dress up, is it alright to just have a stab in the general direction or
> do people expect to be able to say, 'oh you are so-and-so in episode x'?
I've only gone to American cons, but I imagine in this they are pretty
much the same... no one will think less of you if you aren't in costume.
The majority don't wear them. But it _is_ a great way to start
conversations. The more accurate the costume, the more likely it is to
recognized for what it's supposed to be, but I'd say any black leather
outfit could be claimed as an Avon costume, or any tight white gown as
Servalan. But don't let it break your heart if people just think you're
a guy with good fashion sense. Also, the more obscure the character, the
less likely the costume will be recognized, no matter _how_ good it is.
General fannish clothing (B7 t-shirt, B5 hat, Prisoner badge, whatever)
may also help you meet people, as they will know what you like.
> 
> I think I can manage leather trousers and a black polo neck, and after
> discussions with Jenni I have possibilities of a Liberator hand-gun, but
> my teleport bracelet has met with disaster (I was saving an empty Fairy
> liquid bottle but the cleaning lady through it out and I haven't a hope
> of using up the new bottle before the end of the month)
Definitely sounds like Avon's apprentice. ;)
> 
> Also I can't imagine my husband going very far along the dressing up
> path.
> 
> Due to a baby sitting problem (sister got first call on Mum for the
> Saturday night) I will also have a two-year old in tow - an infant
> Servalan perhaps? No I don't think so, Servalan in nappies doesn't quite
> convince me.
Oh, yes! One surviviing child of Auron.
> 
> Julie Horner

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