From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #281 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume98/281 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 281 Today's Topics: [B7L] Mission speed Re: [B7L] Mission speed [B7L] Admin stoppage [B7L] Re: B7 characters and sermons Re: [B7L] Admin stoppage Re: [B7L] Re: B7 characters and sermons [B7L] Message of Thanks/New Horizons Re: [B7L] Re: Blake and diversity ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 15:06:23 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] Mission speed Message-ID: <3645A555.FE96487A@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My friend Gavin sent me this. Any thoughts? "Based on what Avon says in "Mission to Destiny", if a ship is taking 5 months to cross X amount of space at "sub-light" speeds, (let's say 75% light speed for the sake of it - Yes, I know that's still a HECK of a lot!) and the Liberator can make the same journey in 4 days then, by my estimates, the Liberator can cruise at a whacking 1.89 TRILLION miles per hour. Does that sound about right? ps. Forgive me if I've worked this out completely wrong or something, its not unlikelt. Just point and laugh and we'll forget it ever happened." I'll let him know what people think -- cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:45:25 -0000 From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk> To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Mission speed Message-Id: <E0zcydt-0004s3-00@post.mail.demon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gavin (via Steve) said - > Liberator can cruise at a whacking 1.89 TRILLION miles per hour. > Does that sound about right? Can we presume that the way that the Liberator moves doesn't involve passing through every point in space between A and B, so that conventional measurements of speed don't really apply? It works for me. Also I like to imagine that 'meteor storm' and 'cloud of [whatever]' are future-language metaphors for hyperspace anomalies which force the Liberator to make diversions and suffer damage in the ways we see on the screen. Otherwise the plot devices would be total nonsense, which is clearly impossible. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:37:25 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Admin stoppage Message-ID: <19981109213738.19174.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Calle said: >The list has been silent for a while, because of Lysator's >mail server feeling sickly. It seems to be feeling better now. I'm glad to hear it. Most of Lysator seemed to be down on Monday, or so it seemed when I tried to access the list's homepage either directly or by trying to weave around in the hope <grin> of surprising Calle's section of the site into opening. By the way, Taina, if it was a computerised sermon giver (well, there are computerised justice machines, why shouldn't they have computerised other sorts of things as well?), would Orac be more interested? If only briefly? Regards Joanne It isn't a question, after all, whether you like Joan Sutherland or not. Can you afford a ticket? --Charmian Clift (on Australian culture) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:48:51 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: B7 characters and sermons Message-ID: <19981109214855.13837.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Taina said: >Tarrant would probably be doing his military best not to >fidget Oh well, there you go then. I left comments about Tarrant to those who appreciate him most <grin> Regards Joanne KNITWARE: ...the tangle of cables that issues from the back of a computer (accessing the cables requires familiarity with OATHS version 3.1 or higher). --New Scientist, 25/1/92 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:14:18 EST From: Tigerm1019@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Admin stoppage Message-ID: <5ae9ac3b.3647774a@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-11-09 16:41:05 EST, you write: << By the way, Taina, if it was a computerised sermon giver (well, there are computerised justice machines, why shouldn't they have computerised other sorts of things as well?), would Orac be more interested? If only briefly? >> Hi, Joanne. FWTW, Taina and i are two different people on opposite sides of the planet. I think Orac might be more interested under these circumstances, but only if the text were one he could argue over. Tiger M ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:38:02 +1000 From: "Taina Nieminen" <taina@netspace.net.au> To: "B7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: B7 characters and sermons Message-ID: <000c01be0c6c$4a6c37c0$6f6f6f6f@tenzil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joanne said >Taina said: >Tarrant would probably be doing his military best not to >>fidget I don't think that was me. (But given my memory, I can't be sure.) Taina =========================== Is there a mind/body problem? And if so, which is it better to have? - Woody Allen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:15:38 +0800 From: "Fleur A Johnstone" <fleur@p086.aone.net.au> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] Message of Thanks/New Horizons Message-Id: <199811100831.TAA14891@mail.mel.aone.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fellow B7 fanatics, thanks for your responses regarding Blakes7/The Bill/Brush Strokes connection. It was interesting to hear about Graham Cole and Simon Rouse playing monsters in Dr Who/Blakes7. Now when I watch the Bill I keep picturing them in those kind of costumes! (you know how you get an image in your mind and it's hard to get rid of it?) Now for .... Horizon. That episode certainly brought Avon's courage to the surface and tested his loyalty to resistence forces. Since when was he a "real tough guy"? He's usually the thinker and planner, not the saviour. I'm more prone to believe that he didn't think he could survive without Blake and the rest of the crew - that's why he saved them, rather than he had his own ulterior motives. Deep down he was loyal to them and couldn't desert. (well, at least not before trying to find out what happened to them). What does everyone else think?? (I know this may have been discussed when the tape was re-released back in September/October, but we Aussies are a bit behind you Brits!) Regards, Fleur. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:39:32 EST From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Blake and diversity Message-ID: <faab106e.36485e34@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Taina said: << However, Blake does deceive and manipulate his crew (or some members of his crew on occasion). He lies to them about his intention to attack Central Control when they return to Earth, having told them it was a "long range reconnaissance mission". And I believe that he is manipulating them with his video recording in Trial (maybe it's the Avon in me). But I think the latter is a matter of perception, and I may well be more cynical than most people. >> Yes, I agree with you. Blake is a master manipulator. This is my main problem with him. Of course, I'm sure he justifies it, when he admits it to himself at all, by saying that it is all for a good cause. But I wonder how much of what he does is to feed his own ego. Being a major force, perhaps THE major force, in this rebellion, certainly is an ego-booster. Perhaps this is the root of Avon's unease with him, besides the fact that Avon is a loner and would rather not be connected, or dependent, on anyone. On the surface, Blake appears so noble fighting for a noble cause. Cally certainly thought so. But underneath, maybe there were ugly undercurrents that Avon was picking up on. Is this pretty much the opinion of the listers? Gail G. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #281 **************************************