From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #248 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume98/248 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 248 Today's Topics: [B7L] Blake looking pained (was Re something or other) [B7L] Soolin [B7L] Soolin [B7L] Australia Re: [B7L] Horizon info, bloopers, etc. [B7L] Birthday treat [B7L] "HORIZON" Newsflash 30/9/98 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:58:21 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] Blake looking pained (was Re something or other) Message-ID: <199809291058_MC2-5B03-DD22@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Carol mentioned, in connection with a music vid: >Maybe one of the scenes from his >cell in "The Way Back," where Blake's >holding his head and looking pained. Paul James has a lovely still of that, which I've just collected from his site to use when I open up Windows - balancing the last-ever shot of Avon, in "Blake", for closing down. Which is really just an intro to tell anyone new that Paul has a wonderful library of B7 pictures on http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/theorie/paul/blakes7.html Even if his rating system does make out that Headhunter is the best ever episode! Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:48:30 PDT From: "Rob Clother" <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Soolin Message-ID: <19980929194831.11724.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Returning to a slightly old theme here, but I think it's time to stick up for one of my favourite characters. Katrina Harkess wrote: >Soolin a powerful role? >Not really. Really. Based on the post-Assassin episodes I did get to see, that is. Watching them, I had the distinct impression that she was prepared to put up with Avon, but only up to the point where she lost trust in his judgement. In the third season, there was a lot of emphasis on the Avon-Tarrant power struggle. In the fourth season, Tarrant acquiesced, but Soolin only ever seemed to meet Avon at halfway. She certainly posed more of a threat to Avon than Tarrant, and I feel hers was the more powerful role. Watching "Gold" again after seeing the first and second season vids brings it home to me how much more homogeneous the crew seems in those later episodes. Discounting Avon, who had the biggest role, and Vila, who was skulking in fine style on Scorpio, the others seemed to have an equal share of attention and detail. However, it was Soolin who vented her anger at Avon in the final scene, which is indicative of the changed dynamics of the crew. If anyone in the fourth season crew would have challenged Avon, it would have been Soolin. In that sense, and (IMO) in terms of sheer stage presence, she pushed Tarrant into the background. This contradicts the next extract: >...Blake, Avon, Vila, >Tarrant, 1st season Travis. They are /all/ powerful roles and >noticible >more consistant in their power than the women's. When Jenna was the focus of the discussion, I took a look at Sue Clerc's web page and found an undeniable example of a male character pinching lines that should, by any sane person's reckoning, have gone to Jenna. Remember in "Killer", when Blake recognises an ancient spaceship and explains the significance of the Darkling Zone? That was Jenna's field of expertise! For a start, Blake would never have been so rude and insensitive as to forget this, so this IS an example of the writers ignoring Jenna's potential. Jenna never was a favourite of mine, though. Soolin, on the other hand... You see, I'd like to know if there are any such obvious examples of her being pushed into the background unfairly. I missed chunks of the fourth season, so I'm not in a position to judge. Any suggestions? -- Rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:46:39 EDT From: SuzanThoms@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Soolin Message-ID: <88c09005.3611715f@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit <<Rob Clother wrote: << Watching "Gold" again after seeing the first and second season vids brings it home to me how much more homogeneous the crew seems in those later episodes. >> You've touched on two of my favorite B7 subjects...the fourth season crew and Avon/Soolin. I've always felt the fourth season crew worked together, lived together, and fought together as a unit better than the others. And, although, no one declared any strong devotion or affection for one another, it was there, beneath the surface. Moreso than with the other crews. I agree that Soolin emerged as a strong character after "Gold" -- the ep that showcased what a fabulous team Avon and Soolin were. While I'm not saying Tarrant was moved to the background, Soolin DID move to the foreground noticeably after that ep. It was Soolin who argued with Avon if she didn't like the sound of a plan, it was Soolin Avon confided in, it was Soolin's opinion Avon would ask for on the Scorpio flight deck (he often turns to her and asks what she thinks). It was Soolin who always stood up to Avon, and, in my opinion, Avon liked it. ;) After seeing "Gold" I see Avon/Soolin as a wonderful couple. I've been able to find some great fanfic on this subject. I wish the show had been able to go another year. Not only so I would have one more year of Avon, but Soolin was just beginning to be the character Jenna should have been. Soolin would have been fabulous in a fifth season. Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:27:40 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> To: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com> cc: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] Australia Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0930072740-d07Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I'm getting a sudden last minute flurry of requests for Sheelagh's tapes to Australia. If you're ordering all four of the tapes that I have in stock, then I can do the set for A$90 as it obviously costs less to post them together. Send me your address - it must reach me by Friday morning UK time (as my husband leaves Friday afternoon) - Once I confirm that you got to me in time, send a cheque for A$90 to Pat Fenech (payable to Pat Fenech) 11 Lincoln St, Stanmore, NSW 2048 Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:29:38 +0200 From: "Jeroen J. Kwast" <jeroenkw@gns.getronics.nl> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Horizon info, bloopers, etc. Message-ID: <36127891.971FE5EC@gns.getronics.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit aarrrgghhh now I really want to see it!!!!! ... but I can't Mac4781@aol.com wrote: > stuff of Carol Mc deleted. He Carol! I notice you have a great memory, why not e-mail me the whole blooper real from memory???? :) Jeroen PS: Please ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:02:00 -0700 From: Jay <jmcguiga@succeed.net> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Birthday treat Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980930080200.007703cc@succeed.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It's my birthday and all in all a pretty good one. Hubby bought me two videos, Dr. Who's Timelash, can't wait to see that and also Stardrive/Animals. Trouble was I gave him a list of all the B7 vids I didn't have and he went and chose that one! I made the mistake of telling him about the Space Rats and he was intrigued I think. Also my darling Mum sent me two Discworld novels!! Jay (still a kid when it comes to birthdays!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's going to look pretty good...the One Horseman and Three Pedestrians of the Apocralypse." War -- Terry Pratchett's 'Sourcery' Visit Sharpe's Seven (a Sean Bean and Blake's 7 site) http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Studio/3612 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:41:41 +0100 From: JMR <jager@clara.net> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] "HORIZON" Newsflash 30/9/98 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980930204141.006b5238@clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Wednesday 30th September '98.... Here's a brief bulletin from "Horizon": STEPHEN GREIF Stephen Greif will be doing readings on Radio 3 on Monday 5th October at 21.40 hours - programme called +Postscript+ ...And for your interest, Diane Gies yesterday spoke to Brian Lighthill (re the 2nd B7 audio play). Apparently the recording of "The Syndeton Experiment" went very well, and all the cast had a great time. <http://www.horizon.org.uk/> Judith J.M. 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