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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 227

Today's Topics:
	 [B7L] Tarrant bashing bravery/foolishness
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant bashing bravery/foolishness
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 [B7L] Paranoia plus
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant bashing bravery/foolishness
	 [B7L] The Holland-Avon page
	 [B7L] Re: The Crucible
	 [B7L] Re The Crucible
	 [B7L] Helen & Question???
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 [B7L] REMOVE
	 [B7L] Swearing by (or, rather, at) Avon's teeth (was Tarrant Nostra baiting)
	 RE: [B7L] The Crucible
	 Re: [B7L] Helen & Question???
	 Re: [B7L] Helen & Question???
	 RE: [B7L] Re: The Crucible
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 [B7L] *More* original B7 costumes for sale!!
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 RE: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 Re: [B7L] Swearing by (or, rather, at) Avon's teeth (was Tarrant Nostra baiting)
	 [B7L] Re: Countdown
	 [B7L] Tarrant in Rumours.
	 RE: [B7L] Re: Countdown
	 [B7L] Pages Bar
	 [B7L] Oops I forgot
	 [B7L] Is Vila dead?

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:40:47 EDT
From: AChevron@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Tarrant bashing bravery/foolishness
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In a message dated 98-09-01 07:53:46 EDT, you write:

<< Gwynn, it's great to find a rare, male Tarrant fan. You have 
 >good taste!
 
 Yes.  Good taste in drippy, dopey, sentimental simpletons. >>

   If you need, Rob, I have some room you can hide in for awhile. Whoops. The
godmother has my address... maybe I can lend you some kevlar armor/weapons to
defend yourself with?     D. Rose      

(snickering with delight as someone rises up to tweak the nose of the Tooth
Worshippers)

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:23:19 -0400
From: ay648@yfn.ysu.edu (Carol A. McCoy)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant bashing bravery/foolishness
Message-ID: <199809012023.QAA07279@yfn.ysu.edu>

Deborah chortles too soon:

>(snickering with delight as someone rises up to tweak the nose of the Tooth
>Worshippers)

You should know us better than that.  Insignificant pests aren't 
worthy of our personal attention.  We simply contract out the 
extermination assignment to the Orkin man. :)

Now back to important stuff, such as contemplation of Tarrant's long, 
aristocratic fingers.  (There's nothing like taking a break in
the day to indulge in one's photo albums.)

Carol Mc

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:32:12 -0400
From: ay648@yfn.ysu.edu (Carol A. McCoy)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
Message-ID: <199809012032.QAA07787@yfn.ysu.edu>

Tiger M, stand up and accept your induction into the Tarrant Nostra.
This is pure poetry:

>    I agree with Carol.  If you watch the episode "Blake", look at Avon's face
>as he realizes that Tarrant is going to have to stay aboard the crashing
>Scorpio.  Of all the characters, he strikes me as the most straightforward and
>least likely to stab someone in the back.  His crewmates know where they stand
>with him, something that is not true of Avon or even Blake.

It's so wonderful to see one's own thoughts mirrored in other's 
words.  I wrote something very similar in my most recent On the
Wing trib.

I think it was recognition of Tarrant's inherent honesty and openness
that convinced Avon to accept him into the crew so readily.  It's
not like Avon to give trust so quickly.  But he did with Tarrant.
Which may also explain why Avon took Tarrant's charge that Blake
had betrayed them so seriously. 

Carol Mc

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:50:40 -0400
From: ay648@yfn.ysu.edu (Carol A. McCoy)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Paranoia plus
Message-ID: <199809012050.QAA09252@yfn.ysu.edu>

Deborah wrote:

>  I certainly hope so; there's E-Con, and Redemption, unless THEY try and stop
>us...Deborah

Well, if THEY don't, someone else will. 

Susan Adair, sympathy on the loss of all your e-mail. :(  I don't
have the URL for the Paul sight, but I'm sure Sarah will send it along
soon.

Jim, thanks for the URL for the newly discovered B7 site.  I shall check it out
when time permits.

I've just learned that this ISP has been sentenced to summary 
execution (probably the result of an anti-Tarrant conspiracy).  
Within the month I'll be switching this list to
my AOL addy.  I wanted to alert everyone so you wouldn't think
the "Carol Mc" posting from AOL was a clone. :)

Carol Mc

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:12:04 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
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On Tue 01 Sep, Tigerm1019@aol.com wrote:
>     I agree with Carol.  If you watch the episode "Blake", look at Avon's face
> as he realizes that Tarrant is going to have to stay aboard the crashing
> Scorpio.  Of all the characters, he strikes me as the most straightforward and
> least likely to stab someone in the back.  His crewmates know where they stand
> with him, something that is not true of Avon or even Blake.

I believe it was Travis who commented that Blake had one reliable flaw.  He
would never abandon a friend.

Judith

-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7

Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 21:53:16 +0100
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant bashing bravery/foolishness
Message-ID: <9h+ViWB86F71Ewg+@jajones.demon.co.uk>

In message <a920c8d3.35ec4dbf@aol.com>, AChevron@aol.com writes
>(snickering with delight as someone rises up to tweak the nose of the Tooth
>Worshippers)

Ah, I knew there was something I hadn't done for a while... 
-- 
Julia Jones

"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
        The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 16:59:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: Susan.Moore@uni.edu
To: BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] The Holland-Avon page
Message-id: <01J1ASIZKEGI8WXP1X@uni.edu>

Well, I'm not Sarah T., but I've got the page bookmarked.  It's at:

http://www.lit-arts.com/bpaul/holland.htm

And do admire the lovely background!

Susan M.

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 23:17:50 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: The Crucible
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Judith asked: "Where do you and Paula think is the best place to meet
up?  I don't know Bromley at all, so somewhere close to the theatre is
best to reduce the chances of me
getting lost."

Paula's checking it out. The problem is that the theatre is in the
middle of the shopping centre and is therefore surrounded by pubs, not
shops. There are some pubs up be the cinema, but that's the other side
of the theatre to the main railway station (Bromley South), by which
route I suspect some people will come. We'll let you know asap re a
suitable venue.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson

Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 23:19:50 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re The Crucible
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Ooops. I meant to say it's surrounded by shops not pubs. Guess there was
a bit of wishful thinking there.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson

Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 15:27:19 -0700
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Helen & Question???
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Has anyone seen Helen (can't remember her last name - sorry)?
I've been lurking on the Channel off and on all summer.
Visiting relatives then 6 weeks of computer problems.
Anyway,  Helen was so much fun on this list.  I hope she hasn't gone away.
Thanks for the info if you have an EMail address.

Question:
Do you or do you not think that Vila died in Blake?

I don't think that he did.  He was always taking a dive and I think that
this was just another of those cases.

What is your opinion?

PS.  Hi Pat.  See!  I'm finally back.  <g>

Tramila Farris ambrov Zeor
---------
Charter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element
Am I corruptable?  Of course I am! and loving it!!!

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 15:23:29 -0700
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
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>Ah, I knew there was something I hadn't done for a while... 

Tramila licks finger and sticks it in the air.
Ah yes.  I do think that it is the time of the year for Tarrant Bashing.
But then, any time of the year is a good time.  <g>

While Carol is diligently pointing out what she sees as the good points of
Pointy Tooth (not my expression, I stole it. teehee_in true Vila style --->
bun intended), let us not forget that this is the same person who delighted
in kicking Vila and is also the same person who tried to steal Avon's ship.

If Tarrant is such a know-it-all, why does he do his own work and leave
Vila out of it.
This is NOT the kind of guy that I can respect.

Tramila Farris ambrov Zeor
---------
Charter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element
Am I corruptable?  Of course I am! and loving it!!!

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:48:42 +0100
From: "Nigel Partridge" <nigel.partridge@easynet.co.uk>
To: "Blakes7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] REMOVE
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REMOVE

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 16:01:57 PDT
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Swearing by (or, rather, at) Avon's teeth (was Tarrant Nostra baiting)
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Carol (the sage one) says:
>You could just give up and join the Tarrant Nostra.  Become one
>of the in crowd. ;-)

Nah, that's the easy way! Or is resistance useless (if a Star Trek fan, 
subsitute futile for useless)?

>>Allergic to toothy grins
>There are treatments for that.  <g>

Good. Avon's teeth have been known to annoy me too <smile, no teeth 
showing whatsoever> Just like Tarrant's, really: too bright and 
seemingly too many for a normal, human mouth. (The Avon fans can put 
their blunt instruments down too - I'm more than happy to admire the man 
until hell freezes over. But at more than arm's length - safer that 
way.)

>He's not a malicious person. 

Haven't seen all of series three, let alone series four, so I can't 
check that statement, but I have the feeling that Vila might have 
thought so.

>His flaws are basically those of youth, and they are far outweighed by 
>his virtues.  If nothing else, consider that Avon came to depend on 
>him and even to care about him.  And we know Avon is never >wrong. :)

God, no, perish the thought - Avon wrong? Dear me! <smile> It is true 
that brashness tends to be a youthful flaw, but in Tarrant it continues 
to irritate me. When I work out why he annoys me so much, then you can 
induct me into the Tarrant Nostra. But don't hold your breath, as 
there's a very real chance of asphyxia and we don't want you dying on 
us, Carol. No, can't have that. Some of your underlings might not react 
as well as you do <smile>

I'm glad your wife is pleased with you, Gwynn, by the way.

Regards
Joanne

You will not feed the flying pests.
--A Dalek, The Evil of the Daleks.

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:57:56 +0100
From: Anne Lane <aplane@tesco.net>
To: "'B7'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] The Crucible
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Count me in for one ticket at ?17,

Thanks,

Anne

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:22:05 +1000
From: "Afenech" <Fenech@onaustralia.com.au>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Helen & Question???
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Tramila asked :

> 
> Question:
> Do you or do you not think that Vila died in Blake?
> 
> I don't think that he did.  He was always taking a dive and I think that
> this was just another of those cases.
> 
> What is your opinion?

Shot from the back and he fell backwards? It was a dive -smile-

Pat F

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 16:31:11 -0700
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Helen & Question???
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>Tramila asked :

>> Question:
>> Do you or do you not think that Vila died in Blake?
>> 
>> I don't think that he did.  He was always taking a dive and I think that
>> this was just another of those cases.
>> 
>> What is your opinion?

Pat F replied:
>Shot from the back and he fell backwards? It was a dive -smile-

Heh!  Heh!  GMTA.
--
Isn't Vila wonderful!  Wonder what he is doing in B7 land these days?
OH!  I know.
Dancing on Ta.....
hum..hum..hum...  I didn't say that.  <innocent look>

Tramila hugs Carol.
You know this is just in fun.
but what fun!
There is nothing like watching the Tarrant Nostra go into action.  <g>

Tramila Farris ambrov Zeor

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 00:33:32 +0100
From: Anne Lane <aplane@tesco.net>
To: "'B7'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Re: The Crucible
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On Tuesday, September 01, 1998 11:18 PM, Steve Rogerson wrote:
> Judith asked: "Where do you and Paula think is the best place to meet
> up?  I don't know Bromley at all, so somewhere close to the theatre is
> best to reduce the chances of me
> getting lost."
>
> Paula's checking it out. The problem is that the theatre is in the
> middle of the shopping centre and is therefore surrounded by pubs, not
> shops. There are some pubs up be the cinema, but that's the other side
> of the theatre to the main railway station (Bromley South), by which
> route I suspect some people will come. We'll let you know asap re a
> suitable venue.
> --

I've been trying to remember the name of the Fuller's pub on the corner of the 
High Street and Church Road, near Allder's - it's probably the nearest to the 
theatre (less than 5 mins walk?), but it is the other side of the theatre from 
the station.

Anne

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 18:45:24 -0500
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
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Tramila wrote:

>let us not forget that this is the same person who delighted in kicking Vila 

Oh come on, who *wouldn't* delight in kicking Vila once in a while? (I seem
to recall Avon quite literally doing so at one point.)

	- Lisa
_____________________________________________________________
Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@ti.com

Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/
New Riders of the Golden Age: http://www.warhorse.com/

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 16:54:50 -0700
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980901165450.008a1190@earthlink.net>
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>Tramila wrote:
>>let us not forget that this is the same person who delighted in kicking
Vila 

Lisa wrote:
>Oh come on, who *wouldn't* delight in kicking Vila once in a while? (I seem
>to recall Avon quite literally doing so at one point.)

Oh Lisa.  How can you even THINK of kicking cute, cuddly Vila?
Avon should have never kicked his Master Thief.  Vila is just too valuable
for that.

Tramila Farris ambrov Zeor
---------
Charter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptible Element
Am I corruptible?  Of course I am! and loving it!!!

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 21:42:24 -0500
From: "Lorna B." <msdelta@magnolia.net>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
Message-Id: <199809020243.VAA10003@pemberton.magnolia.net>

>Tramila wrote:
>
>>let us not forget that this is the same person who delighted in kicking
Vila


Lisa said:
>Oh come on, who *wouldn't* delight in kicking Vila once in a while? (I seem
>to recall Avon quite literally doing so at one point.)

Yes, Avon most certainly did, and rather maliciously, I might add (though I
can understand the frustration).  In "Hostage."

Vila is just so...so kickable!

Lorna B.
"Cookies and porn?  You're the best mom ever!"

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:25:49 +0000 (GMT)
From: Una McCormack <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: Space City <space-city@world.std.com>
cc: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] *More* original B7 costumes for sale!!
Message-ID: <Pine.PCW.3.96.980902111558.9663B-100000@umm-pc.jims.cam.ac.uk>
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Hi everyone,

Just to let you know that I'm agenting some more B7 costumes - remember
that these are all *original* costumes worn in the series, not 
reproductions.

I'm welcoming offers across the next 2 weeks: please e-mail if you'd like
to make an offer, or want to ask any questions about the costumes at:
umm10@cam.ac.uk


Una

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For sale:
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- Soolin's grey 'winter' costume: complete, immaculate condition.

- Dayna's season 4 purple and grey costume (the one with the neck band):
excellent condition, some marks most likely traceable to the filming of
'Sand'!

- Ro's costume from 'Horizon': complete, immaculate (this is one of the
most beautiful costumes I've seen, folks!).

- Space Princess guard's jacket from 'Gold': badge intact, excellent
condition.


Offers and queries to umm10@cam.ac.uk
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:26:26 -0400
From: ay648@yfn.ysu.edu (Carol A. McCoy)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
Message-ID: <199809021026.GAA11509@yfn.ysu.edu>

Tramilla wrote:

>Tramila licks finger and sticks it in the air.
>Ah yes.  I do think that it is the time of the year for Tarrant Bashing.

Actually, the season doesn't officially open until after Labor Day.
But as long as there isn't a game warden around you might get
away with it. ;-)

>While Carol is diligently pointing out what she sees as the good points of
>Pointy Tooth (not my expression, I stole it. teehee_in true Vila style --->
>bun intended), let us not forget that this is the same person who delighted
>in kicking Vila 

After reading all the kicking Vila is fun posts, I'm beginning to
think poor Tarrant missed out on something by not kicking him.  Maybe
he should have been kicking him instead of clapping him on the
back (Harvest of Kairos) or putting a snuggly arm about his
shoulder (Terminal).

> and is also the same person who tried to steal Avon's ship.

Piffle, if Tarrant had wanted the ship, he would have taken it.
He let Avon keep it.  (Though Tarrant had as much right to claim
it as salvage as Blake had.)  Tarrant even helped Avon to keep it
on several occasions.  It's a shame that Avon carelessly lost it
over Terminal.  Tsk.  Liberator would probably have been safer
in Tarrant's hands.

>If Tarrant is such a know-it-all, why does he do his own work and leave
>Vila out of it.

The problem is Vila wants everyone else to do *his* share of the work.
Not that I blame him.  It's a good trick if you can pull it off.

>This is NOT the kind of guy that I can respect.

You mean Vila?  <eg>  Yeah, he doesn't command much respect.
He had a tendency to drink on the job.  Not pay attention to
teleport pick-up coordinates (which almost got Avon toasted in
Rumours).  Beat up on women (Warlord), when they weren't 
beating up on him (Power, and was it The Web when Cally gave
him a right to the jaw?).  But I still like him.  He's 
not totally reliable, and he's incredibly lazy, but he's still fun.  
And as with the other characters, his flaws make him all the 
more interesting.

Carol Mc

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:29:36 +0100
From: "Gregory Graham" <greg@geharris.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
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> Oh Lisa.  How can you even THINK of kicking cute, cuddly Vila?
> Avon should have never kicked his Master Thief.  Vila is just too valuable
> for that.
>
> Tramila Farris ambrov Zeor
> ---------
> Charter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
> Vila's Intimately Corruptible Element
> Am I corruptible?  Of course I am! and loving it!!!
>

Does this mean you're considering a Vila soft toy/doll?  Anyway, I agree
with Tramila.  How could you kick someone so harmless and friendly.

Tramila, is V.I.C.E. still accepting members?

-----Gregory Graham-------

Milan@es.co.nz||greg@geharris.co.uk
WARNING: The opinions expressed may not reflect upon reality let alone GE
Harris

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:50:02 -0400
From: ay648@yfn.ysu.edu (Carol A. McCoy)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
Message-ID: <199809021050.GAA11762@yfn.ysu.edu>

Judith wrote:

>On Tue 01 Sep, Tigerm1019@aol.com wrote:
>>     I agree with Carol.  If you watch the episode "Blake", look at Avon's face
>> as he realizes that Tarrant is going to have to stay aboard the crashing
>> Scorpio.  Of all the characters, he strikes me as the most straightforward and
>> least likely to stab someone in the back.  His crewmates know where they stand
>> with him, something that is not true of Avon or even Blake.
>
>I believe it was Travis who commented that Blake had one reliable flaw.  He
>would never abandon a friend.

I can't speak for Tigerm, but I think the straightforward question goes 
beyond never abandoning a friend.  True, Blake wouldn't do that.  But 
he might withhold information about plans and missions.  He might
twist situations to get others to do his bidding.  He wasn't always
a straightforward man.  That's a basic difference between Tarrant
and Blake.  Tarrant's bluntness often got him trouble, but it
was an honest bluntness.

Carol Mc


 

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:23:44 -0400
From: ay648@yfn.ysu.edu (Carol A. McCoy)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Swearing by (or, rather, at) Avon's teeth (was Tarrant Nostra baiting)
Message-ID: <199809021123.HAA12123@yfn.ysu.edu>

Joanne wrote:

>Carol (the sage one) says:

As perceptive as you are, you are bound to become a Tarrant fan. :)

>Nah, that's the easy way! Or is resistance useless (if a Star Trek fan, 
>subsitute futile for useless)?

I definitely think resistance is futile, but don't count on me
being as straightforward as Tarrant is.

>Good. Avon's teeth have been known to annoy me too <smile, no teeth 
>showing whatsoever> Just like Tarrant's, really: too bright and 
>seemingly too many for a normal, human mouth. 

Since you seem properly motivated, you are a good candidate for
treatment.  The first (and only) step in the program is to
spend thirty minutes each day SCUBA diving in shark infested
waters.  After prolonged exposure to their teeth, Avon's and
Tarrant's smiles will become quite tolerable.

(Teehee, strike another one up to TN ingenuity.  We lure the
bashers in with kindness, then we throw them to the sharks. ;-)

>Haven't seen all of series three, let alone series four, so I can't 
>check that statement, but I have the feeling that Vila might have 
>thought so.

Actually, Tarrant and Vila form a mutual protection society in
season four.  Vila even risks Avon's temper by asking him three
times in "Blake" about Tarrant's whereabouts. I think you'll 
find that fans are more aggrieved on Vila's behalf than
Vila seems to be.  I'm sure Vila realizes that he makes as
many mistakes as Tarrant does, and that people in glass houses
shouldn't throw stones.  Vila also recognizes that as harsh
as Tarrant is, that Tarrant would put his own life on the line
for Vila any day of the week.  It's Tarrant Vila calls for when 
he is in trouble in "Dawn," because he knows Tarrant is the one 
most likely to come to his rescue.

Vila's irritation with Tarrant is short-lived.  He yaps in
"City," but the conflict is over by the end of the episode.
Contrast that to Vila's long-term upset with Avon after "Orbit."
If Vila views any of his shipmates as malicious, it's Avon.

>But don't hold your breath, as 
>there's a very real chance of asphyxia and we don't want you dying on 
>us, Carol. No, can't have that. Some of your underlings might not react 
>as well as you do <smile>

While I was quite adept at holding my breath in my underwater
hockey days, I shall take your advice to heart.  If only
to protect you from TN terror squads. 

But do keep an open mind about Tarrant while watching the
rest of the series (you do have access to the rest of
the series, I hope...).  If you can forgive Avon all his
faults, Tarrant should be a piece of cake. ;-)

Carol Mc

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:32:02 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Countdown
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Adam wrote:
>the Albian computer expert at the beginning did in fact help to
>dismantle the device when he tried to detonate the bomb and only made it
>hiccup for one second. It was actually that one extra second that he
>managed to give them that gave Avon the one extra second he needed at the
>end to insert the last rod and detonate the bomb. 

This is the sort of insight that makes the list a pleasure!  Though I am
all for the Evil Overlord's resolution that these devices should be set to
go off at a number other than zero, just to give the heroes a false sense
of security.

Harriet

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:50:50 +1000
From: "Katrina Harkess" <kharkess@mail.usyd.edu.au>
To: "B7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Tarrant in Rumours.
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Who else knows that little scene in "Rumours of Death" where Tarrant is
distracting three troopers so Cally&Dayna&Avon can sneak up and brain them?
He looks absolutely wonderful, gives a absolutely *classic* Tarrant smile
and does this lovely little old fashioned bow to the downed troopers. I
swear, not a single other character could manage to carry it off with such
delightful, memorable *and* downright sexy style.


Other notes from Rumours - the number of quotes here is lovely. And the
crew interraction is too. Proof they all care for Avon. Esp. Tarrant. :)


Katrina.

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:58:24 +0100 
From: "Taylor, Steve          [CCS]" <S.Taylor@lmu.ac.uk>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Re: Countdown
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	Harriet said

> This is the sort of insight that makes the list a pleasure!  Though I
> am
> all for the Evil Overlord's resolution that these devices should be
> set to
> go off at a number other than zero, just to give the heroes a false
> sense
> of security.
> 
	[Taylor, Steve            [MIS]]  De-lurking after a while

	I think they should count up!

	Also - why not make all the wires black!  Presumably when wiring
said devices
	the person only does it one wire at a time.

	Also why make them count at all - it isn't a DEC mainframe you
know:-))

	Anyone saying 'dramatic effect' is too boring for this list 8-P

	SteveT (showing his age)

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Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:53:54 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Space City <space-city@world.std.com>,
        Stephen Hannington <steveh@tivoli.demon.co.uk>,
        Redemption <redemption@smof.demon.co.uk>,
        Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Pages Bar
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I'm meeting Steve Kilbane for a drink and to swap vids and comics at
Pages Bar in London on Saturday 26th September and though tis about time
we had another list drink there. If anyone fancies joining us on that
evening, drop me an email and let me know. We'll be going anyway, so
additions just add to the fun.

Pages Bar is on Page Street, London SW1P. Nearest tubes are Pimlico and
Westminster and railway stations Charing Cross, Victoria and Waterloo
are not far away. The No 88 bus, which you can pick up near Piccadilly
Circus, goes right past the door. The C10 bus also goes past the door
and you can get that at Victoria.

I'll probably get there between 5.30 and 6.00pm.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson

Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars

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Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:57:00 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Stephen Hannington <steveh@tivoli.demon.co.uk>,
        Space City <space-city@world.std.com>,
        Redemption <redemption@smof.demon.co.uk>,
        Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Oops I forgot
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Forgot to mention in the previous post about Pages Bar is that there is
a sci-fi fair at the nearby Westminster Hall on that day. These are like
big dealer rooms with about 100 dealers.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson

Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:44:11 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Is Vila dead?
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On Tue 01 Sep, Tramila wrote:
> Question:
> Do you or do you not think that Vila died in Blake?

Looks to me like he was shot in the back and was very surprised by it.  If it
was a high impact shot them he reacted in just the way one would expect.

As far as I'm concerned, he's pushing up dasies with the rest of them.  (unless
I happen to need him alive for a story, in which case I'll work out some way for
the shot to be non-fatal)

But as far as the series goes - they're all dead in my book.

Judth

-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7

Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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