From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #8 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume00/8 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 8 Today's Topics: [B7L] Still making headlines... [B7L] Too quiet Re: [B7L] Too quiet [B7L] Too quiet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:31:35 -0000 From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] Still making headlines... Message-ID: <04ad01bf5bfd$e3dae410$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, it has nothing to do with the programme, but I can't believe they're *still* using it as a pun... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sport/football/fa_cup/newsid_597000/597911. stm Una ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:31:33 -0700 From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Too quiet Message-ID: <20000111.193138.12246.0.Rilliara@juno.com> Unless something's seriously wrong with my e-mail, the lyst has been a tad too quiet lately, so I'm tossing out a few stray thoughts Orbit--I've heard the theory Avon wasn't really trying to find Vila, but I don't buy it. On the other hand, the attempted murder was slightly mitigated by how long it took Avon to think of this. Orac seemed to think it was obvious and even Vila (IMHO) seemed to realize which way the wind was blowing before Avon did. Unfortuanely, Avon's conscience seems to work best by either coming up with an excuse so he doesn't have to admit that's why he's doing it or by avoiding the question in the first place. Avon was out of excuses, but he did a fairly good job of ignoring the one way out until Orac shoved it in his face. Also on Orbit--Avon's other actions seem suspicious. Vila was obviously the wrong choice to bring down. Tarrant was better in a fight, as were Dayna and Soolin. Then there was Avon's bringing a gun that wouldn't do him any good (unless he needed to kill Vila) when a teleport bracelet would have been better. Maybe Cally's not the only one whose brain gets scrambled by aliens (although, I have to admit, Avon knew Ensor had gone into permanent exile with one companion--male--and may have concluded another male would be a better distraction than Dayna or Soolin and that Tarrant was likely to overreact if he realized that was why Avon had brought him. Although, since most females tend to ignore Vila when Avon's in the immediate vicinity, the logic still seems a little weak). Besides, what do you do if you don't have enough fuel for escape velocity? Land the shuttle, land the shuttle, land the shuttle . . . . Speaking of Cally and hostile telepaths, I think The Web is really the only time when she was truly taken over. In Shadow, she was initially driven off by a hostile alien, but Orac was the only one possessed. If Cally hadn't been there, the ship would have been destroyed without the crew ever realizing what was going on. In Dawn of the Gods, Orac got them into the mess. Although Cally initially had some problems, she rallied nicely and saved their skins (the Thaarn's fluctuating IQ didn't hurt either). In Sarcophagus, having recently dealt with the deaths of perhaps BILLIONS of Aurons along with her usual problems of isolation among the nontelepathic, Cally was a bit too quick to leave herself open to the alien, but it had only limited control over her. In the end, it was the alien's _lack_ of control that turned the tables. In the episode where they're trying to find the murderer to keep that one planet from turning into a mushroom 1) is there anyone who believes the Federation wasn't responsible for the fungi? 2) Is there anyone who thinks it wasn't really Avon who set the explosives and that Blake quickly took credit for some little mind game reason of his own, like convincing the passengers _he_ was in charge, not Avon. Really. 3) Is there anyone who doesn't think either the alphabet or handwriting would have had to change considerably for _Avon_ to take that long figuring out the one clue? Or has he been going through a great deal of effort to hide his mild dyslexia and this one slipped past him? Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:01:39 EST From: KKrause658@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Too quiet Message-ID: <8c.8c42cc50.25ad4893@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/00 9:45:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, rilliara@juno.com writes: << n the episode where they're trying to find the murderer to keep that one planet from turning into a mushroom 1) is there anyone who believes the Federation wasn't responsible for the fungi? 2) Is there anyone who thinks it wasn't really Avon who set the explosives and that Blake quickly took credit for some little mind game reason of his own, like convincing the passengers _he_ was in charge, not Avon. Really. 3) Is there anyone who doesn't think either the alphabet or handwriting would have had to change considerably for _Avon_ to take that long figuring out the one clue? Or has he been going through a great deal of effort to hide his mild dyslexia and this one slipped past him? >> didn't it say that the Federation did send the fungi down? I seem to remember that. Also I think Blake did set the explosives. In some ways I think Blake could be more ruthless than Avon. At least you knew what Avon was no matter if you were an enemy or friend. Blake you would have to watch. for example in Breakdown. I do believe he said he would break Kayne's hands knowing he wouldn't have to. But, having said it would do what was neccessary. There are other examples of this too. Looking at the letters right away, I didn't really notice the name, but then Sara was pronounced different than I always heard it here in America. Which brings another thought. What was wrong with Chevener's hand in Project Avalon when he was "attacking" Jenna and Cally? It looked like it was metallic or part of an android.... BTW, I'm new to this list and My name is Karen.. Im watching B7 for the first time on MPT. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:34:37 PST From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Too quiet Message-ID: <20000112103437.41196.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Ellyne wrote on Orbit: <Orbit--I've heard the theory Avon wasn't really trying to find Vila, but I don't buy it. On the other hand, the attempted murder was slightly mitigated by how long it took Avon to think of this.> I don't think he was trying *very hard* to find Vila - at least one part of his mind didn't want to do it. But before the crunch came, if he hadn't thought of some other way out - he'd have done it. This I firmly believe (and if Vila had the gun, he'd have done it too - as you said, he thinks of the idea *before* Avon...) I admit I have no idea why he takes Vila, except that Vila would be better company than the other three (Vila's better company than just about anyone). Maybe Avon just needed a break from all those youthful high spirits for a while, before he took said high spirits and stuffed them into the nearest large container (and Soolin might get nasty when he tried). On Mission to Destiny: <Is there anyone who thinks it wasn't really Avon who set the explosives and that Blake quickly took credit for some little mind game reason of his own, like convincing the passengers _he_ was in charge, not Avon. Really.> Do you mean 'it *was* really Avon'? No, I do think it was Blake. I love them both dearly (ask anyone), but have to say that they both could be jaw-droppingly, dispassionately ruthless when they want to, and they want to startlingly often. But there was no reason for Blake to go off on his own for that minute before they left the Ortega (well, if he needed the little Alpha's room, he could have waited...) and I really *can't* see that breif, extremely casual statement as a lie. I also don't see him as insecure enough to care whether these transient passengers think he's in charge or not (to be honest, IMO he's arrogant enough that the thought of them assuming otherwise might not even enter his head <g>). And the Ortega crew got the message loud and clear at the beginning (even before Blake left the Ortega, it was blindingly clear - he did the talking, the others stood behind, backing him up, they obeyed him...) so I can't see the point of who set the explosives making much difference. <Is there anyone who doesn't think either the alphabet or handwriting would have had to change considerably for _Avon_ to take that long figuring out the one clue?> Actually, I keep wondering where *Cally's* wits are. Avon is, after all, putting most of his time and attention into the ship's controls back together and playing Sherlock Kerr in his spare moments as a diversion (one he *does* find very diverting, true, but his main focus is the work). Cally's the one who spends time wandering around with the thing in her arms and looking at it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #8 ************************************