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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 00 : Issue 203

Today's Topics:
	 Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
	 Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
	 Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
	 [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #202
	 [B7L] out-takes
	 Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
	 Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
	 Re: [B7L] out-takes
	 Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #202
	 Re: [B7L] OT: It's gonna be awhile before the UK gets this...
	 Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
	 Subject: [B7L] Re: The Actor Speaks CD--review
	 [B7L] Ebay B7 item
	 Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
	 Re: [B7L] out-takes
	 Re: Telegram [was Re: [B7L] Revolutions past]
	 Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
	 Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
	 Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
	 [B7L] Ebay B7 item
	 aussies
	 Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
	 Re: [B7L] out-takes
	 Re: [B7L] aussies
	 Re: [B7L] Revolutions past

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 23:36:49 +0100
From: "Andrew Ellis" <Andrew.D.Ellis@btinternet.com>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
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 It's far easier to chant "Two world
>wars and one world cup" than to face the fact that Britain has fought three
>world wars and failed to win any of them.
>
>Neil


Erm, I am terminally stupid, but..... I don't speak French, Dutch or German
as my first language.

Gnog,

Resident of an island not successfully invaded since Henry Tudor.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 23:19:36 +0100
From: "Andrew Ellis" <Andrew.D.Ellis@btinternet.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
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>Trish wrote:
>
>> Anyway, Gnog, there is always a necessity for the child to toss off the
>apron
>> strings.  Staying tied to one's mother (actual or country) for too long
>does
>> not usually have salutary effects on either.  Besides, we're an
>affectionate
>> child.  We write, come to visit, come to your defence, and do everything
a
>> well-raised child should.
>
>And then produce films which don't mention us at all <vbg>
>

I have yet to meet a young person who likes to acknowledge that his/her
parents ever did anything that they wanted to do.

Gnog.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 23:08:47 +0100
From: "Andrew Ellis" <Andrew.D.Ellis@btinternet.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
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>> Gnog said:
>> > Just read an interesting e-mail about the fate of the 50 odd 
>> professional
>> > people who signed the US declaration of independence. 

>> oh, you mean better off without you ruling us?
>> Hmmm... woudl that mean no Gore vs. Bush race this year? That gets
>> tempting.
>> 
>Wait, no Clinton administration?  Ever?  No listening to people defend a
>slimey back stabber who you can't even saterize because he always turns
>around and lives down to (and below) your worst expectations?  

Anybody over there hear about Peter Mandleson ?

No
>listening to Gore explain he had nothing to do with Clinton and barely
>knows the man?  No listening to Gore supporters explain that the scandals
>don't mean anything because all politicians are like that and Bush must
>be just as bad, even if they can't think of any specifics?  

Tim Yeo (my local MP)  ? The Profumo affair ? Mellor and the Chelsea kit ?

>No listening
>to how complete lack of personal intergrity doesn't matter so long as the
>economy's good (kind of like the Federation being glad to take profits
>from Shadow)?
>

The Labour Party, The Conservative party, the Liberal Democrats ?

>Hmm, and your flag has a nice color scheme, too.


So does yours !

Doesn't sound like we are to different. What good little children !

Gnog ;-)

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 00:10:22 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Carol & Gordon <storm@catchnet.com.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #202
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>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:21:35 PDT
>From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
>To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
>Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
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><How many Aussies are there on this list??>
>
><At least four. you, me, Joanne, Ross...>
>
>Me. :-)

And me :-)
Though I have been in severe Lurk Mode for ages :-(
Carol, 'Hondo'

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 00:01:36 GMT
From: "Isobel Hamilton" <isobel19@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] out-takes
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Hi,

I just found this out.. too late as usual, but maybe someone else here knew 
about it? Apparently there were Blakes 7 out-takes on a BBC programme in the 
UK a week ago.. Aunties Golden Bloomers or whatever the silly name of the 
programme is! I would give anything to see some Blakes 7 out-takes, and if 
anyone happened to video it I will pay for a copy!

:o) Isobel


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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 09:45:39 +0930
From: "Minnie" <minnie@picknowl.com.au>
To: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>, <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
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>I'm in Melbourne too.
>
>Jessica


Hahahahaha what a guess. <G>  

Min.xxx

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 09:44:51 +0930
From: "Minnie" <minnie@picknowl.com.au>
To: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>, <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
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>>
>><How many Aussies are there on this list??>
>>
>><At least four. you, me, Joanne, Ross...>
>
>>Me. :-)
>>
>
>Me too.
>
>Jessica



Let me guess Jessica, Melbourne?? <G>

Min.xxx

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 09:55:14 +0930
From: "Minnie" <minnie@picknowl.com.au>
To: <isobelh@hotmail.com>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] out-takes
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>:o) Isobel wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I just found this out.. too late as usual, but maybe someone else here knew
>about it? Apparently there were Blakes 7 out-takes on a BBC programme in
the
>UK a week ago.. Aunties Golden Bloomers or whatever the silly name of the
>programme is! I would give anything to see some Blakes 7 out-takes, and if
>anyone happened to video it I will pay for a copy!
>
Really??  Anyone got more info??
Min.xxx

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 09:54:11 +0930
From: "Minnie" <minnie@picknowl.com.au>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, "Carol & Gordon" <storm@catchnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #202
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>
>And me :-)
>Though I have been in severe Lurk Mode for ages :-(
>Carol, 'Hondo'
>

Where do you live then?? Melbourne? <VBG>

Min.xxx

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 01:08:49 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] OT: It's gonna be awhile before the UK gets this...
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....movie, but the trailer was just released to the internet today. For those 
of you who are fond of HIGHLANDER, this is the next movie trailer. The film 
premiers here in the States on September 1. 

(28 min. download time, but worth the wait)

http://qt.stream.aol.com/qt/moviefone/2000/h/highlander.mov

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 15:29:59 EST
From: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
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>From: "Minnie" <minnie@picknowl.com.au>
>To: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>, <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
>Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
>Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 09:44:51 +0930
>
>
>
> >>
> >><How many Aussies are there on this list??>
> >>
> >><At least four. you, me, Joanne, Ross...>
> >
> >>Me. :-)
> >>
> >
> >Me too.
> >
> >Jessica
>
>
>
>Let me guess Jessica, Melbourne?? <G>
>
>Min.xxx

How did you guess that?

Jessica



>

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 23:59:02 PDT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Subject: [B7L] Re: The Actor Speaks CD--review
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Judith wrote:
<I would have loved to have a recording of Gareth doing a soliquy or maybe a 
little bit of Dylan Thomas.>

Chaucer. Canterbury Tales. In the original Old English. I once heard it with 
a Welsh accent - years ago - and fell hopelessly in love (didn't *understand 
much, but didn't *care*). The idea of listening to Gareth doing it is 
absolutely - absolutely ... <whimpering and melting over the keyboard>



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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 03:09:51 EDT
From: JEB31538@cs.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Ebay B7 item
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Currently there is for auction on Ebay a book by Mat Irvine about his sci-fi 
work and B7 is included in the book.  It is number  382278481.

When looking for B7 items on Ebay through search,  spell it three ways.
Blake's 7, Blakes 7, Blake's Seven

I found this item under Blake's Seven.   It might be nice for someone 
interested in models and effects.

Joyce

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 16:45:41 +0930
From: "Minnie" <minnie@picknowl.com.au>
To: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>, <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
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>>Let me guess Jessica, Melbourne?? <G>
>>
>>Min.xxx
>
>How did you guess that?
>
>Jessica
>
Nothing mysterious. Everyone else seemed to be, so I thought you might be as
well <G>

Min.xxx

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Date: Sun Jul 16 09:14:43 BST 2000
From: Ika <blake@gaudaprime.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] out-takes
Message-Id: <200007160820.JAA18407@smtp.uk2net.com>

Isobel wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I just found this out.. too late as usual, but maybe someone else here knew
> >about it? Apparently there were Blakes 7 out-takes on a BBC programme in
> the
> >UK a week ago.. Aunties Golden Bloomers or whatever the silly name of the
> >programme is! I would give anything to see some Blakes 7 out-takes, and if
> >anyone happened to video it I will pay for a copy!
> >
> Really??  Anyone got more info??
> Min.xxx

Indeed I have (preen) - I taped it, ha ha. 

There was only one out-take featured, a scene featuring Jackie Pearce & Stephen 
Grief. It was great. I can try and send you a copy Isobel but I taped it on 
Long Play so I might not be able to copy it, as I am dull-witted with 
technology, in which case I can send you the tape itself (but I'll need it back 
as I taped it after some of my favourite films). Mail me your postal address 
and it'll be on its way within days. 

Following on from this: does anyone know if the "Avon's teddy bear" footage 
still exists? I was secretly hoping this would be the out-take they showed :( 
I heard it didn't exist any more, but my housemate says she thinks she saw it 
at a convention, but quite often (like Dougal in Father Ted) she can't tell 
what was real and what she dreamed. (The other week she dreamed Judith Proctor 
- who she's never met - came to live with us and looked exactly like Kasabi.)

Love,
Ika

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 23:58:19 +0100
From: "Nyder" <nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net>
To: "Harriet Monkhouse" <101637.2064@compuserve.com>,
        "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Telegram [was Re: [B7L] Revolutions past]
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I wrote:

> >I'd heard they'd given up doing those telegrams cos
> >there are too many centuagenarians out there.

Harriet replied:

> Something still happens, though I think someone has to notify the palace,
> they don't go out of their way to look for them.  And I think it may be a
> special card rather than a telegram as such.  Anyway, the Queen has
> presumably noticed her mother's birthday is coming up.

She'll be in an almighty sulk at the breakfast table if her daughter
forgets, won't she? I'd pay to see that...

Fiona

Fiona Moore
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 00:00:54 +0100
From: "Nyder" <nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net>
To: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>, "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
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----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Faulkner <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: b7 <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past


> From: Ellynne G. <rilliara@juno.com>
> > > Oh.  I thought it was because they won your Revolution for you and
> > > you've
> > > never acknowledged it:)
> > >
> > Now, now, Neil.  At Yorktown, the British tried to surrender to the
> > French instead of the Americans and the French wouldn't hear of it.  Far
> > be it from any of us to insult such a gracious gesture by refusing it at
> > this late date.
>
> What I was referring to, in typically elliptical fashion, was the way the
> political complexities of the American War of Independence tend to be
> reduced to patriotic simplicities.  The French contribution tends to get
> overlooked.  As does Britain's reliance on German mercenaries (they wanted
> an army of Cossacks, but Catherine the Great backtracked at the last
> minute).

Not to mention the Loyalists, who went on to populate Southern Ontario (and
whom both Americans and British tend to conveniently ignore).

Fiona

Fiona Moore
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 23:55:22 +0100
From: "Nyder" <nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, "Penny Dreadful" <pennydreadful@powersurfr.com>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
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> >Penny's a Canuck? Gosh.
>
> Me and Shatner.

I know. And Bob Beattie, Mike Myers, Jim Carey... did you know, there was an
American game show years back which had a quiz category entitled "Dead or
Canadian?" in which contestants had to guess whether a named individual was
dead or Canadian.

> >I think Sleer would pay by credit card, myself.
>
> Assuming the people with whom she was transacting accepted Visa

I think she'd use Mistress Card...

> answer to American Express be "Federal Express"?)).

Murder on the Federal Express. Hm, I like the ring of that...

Fiona

Fiona Moore
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:20:03 -0600
From: Penny Dreadful <pennydreadful@powersurfr.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
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At 11:55 PM 7/15/00 +0100, Nyder wrote:

>did you know, there was an
>American game show years back which had a quiz category entitled "Dead or
>Canadian?" in which contestants had to guess whether a named individual was
>dead or Canadian.

Did they specify which state of being was preferable?

Live From The Birthplace Of Robert Goulet,
     Penny
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 07:10:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "rita d'orac" <orac@inorbit.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Ebay B7 item
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Joyce (JEB31538@cs.com) wrote:

>When looking for B7 items on Ebay through search,  spell it >three ways.
>Blake's 7, Blakes 7, Blake's Seven

actually two searches ought to be enough with most auction sites/search engines:

1: blakes
2: blake's

you might get a few non B7 items, but you certainly won't miss any out.

rita d'orac

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 22:19:49 +1000
From: "Roger the Shrubber" <powerplay@cheerful.com>
To: "blake's seven" <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: aussies
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KA wrote
***
least four.
you, me, Joanne, Ross...
I assume Lindley is no longer with us, and hasn't been for a while.
***
Me too ! From Melbourne (not the Florida one), Victoria, (not the Canada
one), Australia (accept no substitute).



darren r






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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 00:10:12 +1000
From: Joanne <calliste@bigpond.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
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>>From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
>>To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
>>Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip
>>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:21:35 PDT
>>
>><How many Aussies are there on this list??>
>>
>><At least four. you, me, Joanne, Ross...>
>
>>Me. :-)
>>
>
>Me too.
>
>Jessica


And me as well - though I am mainly a lurker.

Joanne (another one)
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 13:33:38 +0100
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] out-takes
Message-ID: <FFi$wLAiuac5Ewdv@jajones.demon.co.uk>

In message <200007160820.JAA18407@smtp.uk2net.com>, Ika
<blake@gaudaprime.co.uk> writes
>Following on from this: does anyone know if the "Avon's teddy bear" footage 
>still exists?

It's on the blooper tape made for the series staff, which is in the
custody of Sheelagh Wells and only seen at cons.
-- 
Julia Jones
Listening to the Jake's Heaven trailer on "The Actor Speaks" and giggling
inanely...

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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 06:38:52 +0930
From: "Minnie" <minnie@picknowl.com.au>
To: "Roger the Shrubber" <powerplay@cheerful.com>,
        "blake's seven" <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] aussies
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Darren wrote:

>Me too ! From Melbourne (not the Florida one), Victoria, (not the Canada
>one), Australia (accept no substitute).

Melbournites all. <G>
(except me )

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 18:53:51 -0400
From: "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect.com>
To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past
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Nyder added to a Neil post :


> > What I was referring to, in typically elliptical fashion, was the way
the
> > political complexities of the American War of Independence tend to be
> > reduced to patriotic simplicities.  The French contribution tends to get
> > overlooked.  As does Britain's reliance on German mercenaries (they
wanted
> > an army of Cossacks, but Catherine the Great backtracked at the last
> > minute).
>
> Not to mention the Loyalists, who went on to populate Southern Ontario
(and
> whom both Americans and British tend to conveniently ignore).
>

If I remember correctly, the British Conservative party recently "borrowed"
their latest plans from Ontario.  The "Common Sense Revolution" was started
here in Ontario by the ruling Progressive Conservatives in 1998.  Got them
elected, so the British lifted a lot of the policies straight from here.
Guess they think Ontario is now similar to Britain.

Steve Dobson.

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