From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #146 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume00/146 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 146 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Titles Say It All? Re: [B7L] Ultraworld (was Titles Say It All?) Re: [B7L] Ultraworld [B7L] Re: reviews/ages/SCHOOL & stuff Re: [B7L] Titles Say It All? Re: [B7L] Titles Say It All? Re: [B7L] Ultraworld Re: [B7L] Sarcophagus (was Titles Say It All?) Re: [B7L] Sarcophagus (was Titles Say It All?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 04:57:41 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Titles Say It All? Message-ID: <392E66B4.2DF5DC8D@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve wrote: > *grin* Am I the only one who actually likes Ultraworld? Some great model > shots of the Liberator, the zombie like workers, Avon struggling to stay > awake and Vila and Orac saving the day. I tend to watch this episode quite > regularly. I think the characterizations of Avon and Dayna are particularly good. We see once again that Avon's curiosity will cause him to overlook potential dangers; we see him being dragged into action by his youngsters when he'd prefer to stop and think; and at the end we see him rather subdued by the whole thing--IMO somewhat sobered by the realisation that he nearly lost his mind, which is perhaps rather more important to him than his life. Dayna shows that she's still a combination of wide-eyed galactic tourist and pragmatic let's-get-it-over-with warrior. That particular combination sometimes doesn't work as well as it might, but in this ep, I think it does--which is probably due to Josette Simon's acting, rather than to her dialogue, which is mostly feeding lines to Avon and Tarrant. Mistral -- I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 21:20:11 +0200 From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl> To: "Blakes 7 List" <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Ultraworld (was Titles Say It All?) Message-ID: <001001bfc747$b1a2b8a0$68ed72c3@marian-de-haan.multiweb.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Dobson asked: >*grin* Am I the only one who actually likes Ultraworld? Some great model shots of the Liberator, the zombie like workers, Avon struggling to stay awake and Vila and Orac saving the day. I tend to watch this episode quite regularly.< I like it too. Avon's face when he agrees with Tarrant's plan for rushing to Cally's rescue is great. Like the good old days with Blake, he doesn't mind *doing* stupid things as long as he can blame someone else when things go wrong. :-) Tarrant gets the chance to show what a bright chap he is. Dayna pulls off some clever conjuror's tricks in producing explosives from thin air. It's fun to see Vila save them all with Orac's help without having a clue what the computer is up to. :-) And at the end we have Avon's gorgeous smile. But I wish Tarrant *had* exchanged those memory tubes. :-) Marian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:21:32 -0400 From: "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect.com> To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Ultraworld Message-ID: <001101bfc750$0f442ae0$01259ad8@cgorman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marian de Haan typed : > I like it too. Avon's face when he agrees with Tarrant's plan for rushing > to Cally's rescue is great. Like the good old days with Blake, he doesn't > mind *doing* stupid things as long as he can blame someone else when things > go wrong. :-) > > Tarrant gets the chance to show what a bright chap he is. Dayna pulls off > some clever conjuror's tricks in producing explosives from thin air. It's > fun to see Vila save them all with Orac's help without having a clue what > the computer is up to. :-) And at the end we have Avon's gorgeous smile. I also like the Ultra's, when they are refusing to believe the systems are breaking down. They also had quite a nice death scene too, with their skin all cracking up. Ewwww! I think Tarrant looking so shocked after he'd killed the Ultras was good. Showing that he's far from a cold blooded killer, which Powerplay seemed to hint at. There he didn't have too many qualms about killing the Federation troops on the Liberator. Steve Dobson. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:49:02 -0500 From: "Gerald Rocan" <grocan@home.com> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] Re: reviews/ages/SCHOOL & stuff Message-ID: <003e01bfc75c$34a65d60$30826c18@winsun1.mb.wave.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been a fly on the wall for a couple of weeks, but until now, was too shy to contribute anything. I have thoroughly enjoyed Ariana's episode reviews and was interested in the range of ages among the members. I suppose I would be somewhere in the middle at age 43. I became interested in B7 about eight years ago when we happened across the show on our local PBS (Public Broadcasting System) station while my husband was channel surfing. Since we are both scifi buffs, we were pleased to finally view some new (at least to us) material. The unfortunate part was, we discovered the show mid-series just before Blake was 'jettisoned' from the show. (I became enthralled with Tarrant, probably because he reminded me of my husband when we first met - tall & trim with curly brown hair.) We did, however, manage to catch some of the earlier shows when they were re-broadcast, but I think I screamed out loud at the ending. I couldn't believe that they would kill off all the major characters like that. This injustice began my writing 'career', such that it is. For weeks afterward, I tried to resolve the ending to my satisfaction. That was before I had heard of fan fiction. What I came up with, I thought, was a pretty good story but was afraid of copywrite infringements so I changed the names of the characters and main plot enough that it could pass as a novel on its own. When I joined the Manitoba Writer's Guild, I came in contact with a person who was actually looking for Blake's 7 stories for a fanzine she was producing. That got me in touch with fandom and I was hooked. I even became the editor for the fan group's newsletter for a couple of years. Then the group dwindled and we decided to close so I was ecstatic to find a group on-line. As for the SCHOOL idea, I think that's great. I love reading what others have written and I have about a ten stories that I have written myself. Most were published in the fanzine. About eight of them were part of a continuing saga taking place after Gauda Prime which I was thinking of putting together as a fan novel. If anyone is interested, drop me a line. I even have copies of our old newsletter in hard-copy, but most of the info in it was from other 'zines like Starlog and such. I love the favourite quotes that have come in. It's been a few years since I saw the episodes but a lot of it is coming back to me by reading the reviews and the quotes. I do have one problem, though - reading some of the messages (with a little 'Windows' symbol beside them) that are in a format that I can't convert - or at least, haven't figured out how to convert. We use Outlook Express so if anyone can tell me how to read these messages, I would appreciate it. Thanks. - Sue from Winnipeg grocan@home.com ps. Sorry about my previous messages. I'm new at this so my friend showed me how to change to TEXT from HTML ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 21:18:49 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Titles Say It All? Message-ID: <200005262119_MC2-A690-F990@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ellynne wrote: >If any B7 episodes had been made that way, which ones would they be? I suppose if they weren't allowed to use extra (speaking) cast or sets, Sarcophagus is the boringly obvious candidate. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:38:20 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Titles Say It All? Message-ID: <20000526.223821.-441249.0.rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 26 May 2000 21:18:49 -0400 Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes: > Ellynne wrote: > >If any B7 episodes had been made that way, which ones would they be? > > I suppose if they weren't allowed to use extra (speaking) cast or > sets, > Sarcophagus is the boringly obvious candidate. > Oh. I always thought it was the "What do you mean we spent all the budget?" episode. Somebody had to be patting themselves on the back when they figured out how to make one of the regular cast the villain at no extra cost. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:13:52 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Ultraworld Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0526211352-572Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri 26 May, Christine+Steve wrote: > I also like the Ultra's, when they are refusing to believe the systems are > breaking down. They also had quite a nice death scene too, with their skin > all cracking up. Ewwww! Trivia - that cracking skin was one of Sheelagh's favourite make up achievements - took her quite a bit of work to do it. Ironically enough, they ignored her advice with regard to the costumes and how the necks fitted and the result of that was that the make up/costume join is horribly visible. Sheelagh actually had her name removed from the credits in protest. JUdith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:38:22 +0200 From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Sarcophagus (was Titles Say It All?) Message-ID: <001401bfc7c7$b0eb6760$68ed72c3@marian-de-haan.multiweb.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harriet wrote: >I suppose if they weren't allowed to use extra (speaking) cast or sets, Sarcophagus is the boringly obvious candidate. O dear, I seem to like all the wrong episodes. :-) Sarcophagus is one of my favourites. It has some delightful revelations about the feelings of the crew that we can usually merely guess at. Under the influence of the blue egg Tarrant is telling Avon exactly what he thinks of him. [And don't we get the feeling he's been yearning for ages to do just that? :-)] And the alien reveals Cally's feelings for Avon, something I think that neither will have thanked her for. :-) I love the alien's make-up and outfit. And I think the scene of her decaying, with that golden skull, is done well. The only boring bits I find the scenes with the alien's 'menials', but there I like the music. :-) This is one of the few episodes I can sit through without reaching for the remote control to fast forward through parts of it. What I don't understand though, is the end, with those long close ups of Cally and Avon. Are they supposed to reveal their feelings? Avon looks as inscrutable as ever to me. What am I missing? Marian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 13:39:24 EDT From: B7Morrigan@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Sarcophagus (was Titles Say It All?) Message-ID: <17.6232b2a.2661624c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marian wrote: > > What I don't understand though, is the end, with those long close ups of > Cally and Avon. Are they supposed to reveal their feelings? Avon looks as > inscrutable as ever to me. What am I missing? > I confess, Marian. I'm a Sarcophagus fan too, not surprising for I like the A/C pairing. I believe the common interpretation of that last bit is Cally inviting more and Avon remaining just as cold as ever. I'd like to believe that he is really thinking more along the lines of "no emotions on the flight deck, wait 'til later." Trish SCHOOL "Auron may be different, Cally, but on Earth it is considered ill-mannered to kill your friends while committing suicide." -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #146 **************************************